Female Characters on the Show

**Litmaster** · Mar 29th, 2014, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by Gooer

.......Like Pegs.....?

Well... soon to be dead. Hopefully.

Originally Posted by Osiris

I think we should all take a moment, and a deep breath, and not jump on someone's tits on their first post. Yes? Yes, I am looking directly at you, Lit.

Osi, I was NOT 'jumping on anyone's tits'... come on now. I certainly hope I haven't scared her off, and reading back over what I wrote I don't think I was being a dick about my response. It just so happened her first post expressed a strong opinion--which is great, everyone is entitled to one-- but there are really only two ways to respond: agreement or disagreement, right?

**YetAnotherBloodyCheek** · Mar 29th, 2014, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by Osiris

Wait... Tanya's black? Do... wait... have we stopped being PC?

I think we should all take a moment, and a deep breath, and not jump on someone's tits on their first post. Yes? Yes, I am looking directly at you, Lit.

Totally off-topic, sorry:

http://www.snotr.com/embed/3726

**Gooer** · Mar 29th, 2014, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by Litmaster

Well... soon to be dead. Hopefully.

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

But i think she will...

**Gooer** · Mar 29th, 2014, 08:40 AM

I think that Riley is the female version of Saul, and CJ is a female version of Michael, but (as much as it pains me) is slightly better than he is.....

**Osiris** · Mar 29th, 2014, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by YetAnotherBloodyCheek

Well, maybe we can skip gender studies class for today because nearly each and every character on the has shown characteristics of a neurological wreck - regardless of a specific gender.
Besides, no one will dispute that Datu IS the whiny scream queen of WA.

Why would you skip the point of her post? Oh, you're just trying to take a shot at her. Let's not do that shit, yeah? Welcoming arms. Welcoming.

**Eviebae** · Mar 29th, 2014, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by Litmaster

And Evie, your point about 'blind spots' is well taken, but you could just as well claim 'blind spots' with regards to character dynamics for any demographic, no matter how you want to slice it:
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That's what I was saying.
It's an issue complicated by the fact this is the way our brain works. It's the factory default to use a sort of shorthand when dealing with "other." It's faster; as in we don't get et or kilt.

I think I've finally decided how Pegs story arc could have played out without being so annoying (at least to me). It's just such a stretch that she could have seen what she saw and not been convinced of the need to defend herself or others. She could have tried and not been able to do it--had an anxiety attack or just frozen. She could have done fine on targets but her hands could have shaken or she could have had a jerk to the side when shooting at zomboids.

As to females in the story: I agree that there are some excellent examples of feminine strength in the story. There's some interesting twinning of story arcs (Saul and Riley's searches, Kelly and Datu's non-traditional (gender) reactions). The females' stories do tend to happen in the background or in the past. Michael and Saul are the main heroes in a way that none of the females are.

**GeneraLee** · Mar 29th, 2014, 02:14 PM

The flip side is, if everyone was tough, macho, and a killer, then no one would be interesting or real. How can you tell a story like this without the wide gamut of character strengths and weaknesses.

**Eviebae** · Mar 29th, 2014, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by GeneraLee

The flip side is, if everyone was tough, macho, and a killer, then no one would be interesting or real. How can you tell a story like this without the wide gamut of character strengths and weaknesses.

I also like how people just have bad luck.

**Osiris** · Mar 29th, 2014, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Eviebae

That's what I was saying.
It's an issue complicated by the fact this is the way our brain works. It's the factory default to use a sort of shorthand when dealing with "other." It's faster; as in we don't get et or kilt.

I think I've finally decided how Pegs story arc could have played out without being so annoying (at least to me). It's just such a stretch that she could have seen what she saw and not been convinced of the need to defend herself or others. She could have tried and not been able to do it--had an anxiety attack or just frozen. She could have done fine on targets but her hands could have shaken or she could have had a jerk to the side when shooting at zomboids.

As to females in the story: I agree that there are some excellent examples of feminine strength in the story. There's some interesting twinning of story arcs (Saul and Riley's searches, Kelly and Datu's non-traditional (gender) reactions). The females' stories do tend to happen in the background or in the past. Michael and Saul are the main heroes in a way that none of the females are.

Define and explain Riley's arc.