Let the Speculation Begin!

[7oddisdead]

also....

Here's some wild speculation, That's not entirely bullshit sarcasm...

So the idea floating around is inks group vs Randy's...but what if its not a group thing so much as a Randy thing?...the last time we saw Randy he was simply among the group of arena survivors heading toward the hospital....the hospital being a place to our knowledge as pinstripes place. We cannot speculate on the inner workings of the zombie hierarchy at this point...so we must assume if their has been a power struggle..its happened in between then and now. I highly doubt KC would leave info like that to our imaginations...

So. What if the scene about to play out in front of us is the "challenging the alpha male" scenario?...that would be rather epic methinks...also...there needs to be a point in the finale when cj is able to get to a visual chance to see Randy. Her identifying him as such will connect the dots for saul/vic and raise future questions later on...should we reach a point where those three can have a sit down....that will be the point where we get the Randy backstory..and that's probly the easiest way to set the pieces in place to make it happen.

[7oddisdead]

More....

-if the alpha scenario above ^ plays out...i could see our people at the colony coming to Randy's defense..that would be a wild scene...could also tie into the Randy's been a good zombie all along theory...

-for the colonists escape from the horde...why could they not use the same tactics that got them into the colony in the first place? We know that the majority of the undead hunt based on scent/pheromones...why not hide everyone in the water trucks until they go away? Hiding seems like the best option in this situation.

-every new character we have been introduced to this season will die. End of story...

- scratch gets a scene after the credits again...this time its just her and tardust driving...discussing where they are going. would Saul have been foolish enough to have brought the ft. Irwin patch with him in the swat van?

- I hate to say it, but the riley kills scratch theory probly holds more water in my theory book now than it did before. Right now we have pegs, Kelly, riley, scratch,tardust...all either Mia or whereabouts assumed/unknown...i could EASILY see a situation where riley is assumed dead and left behind at Irwin..a little later pegs/kelly make it there...somehow...and at the tail end of the season we find out scratch/tar are headed that way...i would totally buy that shit for a dollar...

-kaw-

[scbubba]

Hmm...

Randy is revealed to be a bearded Midwesterner with a sense of humor drier than a vermouth martini...nobody prior to the outbreak made sense of what he said, or the fact that nearly everything he told people was either hyperbole or solely intended to get a reaction from others..when the end came, he agreed to man the water station simply because his favorite movie was "the waterboy".


Death. That's all I can hope for....beyond that....who knows? Maybe a sprinkle of friendship?

As usual, you have expanded my mind with your post. I never would have made the Randy -Waterboy connection.

This, of course, means that we will have an Adam Sandler cameo in the season 3 finale worthy of Zombieland....

[scbubba]

More....

-if the alpha scenario above ^ plays out...i could see our people at the colony coming to Randy's defense..that would be a wild scene...could also tie into the Randy's been a good zombie all along theory...

-for the colonists escape from the horde...why could they not use the same tactics that got them into the colony in the first place? We know that the majority of the undead hunt based on scent/pheromones...why not hide everyone in the water trucks until they go away? Hiding seems like the best option in this situation.

-every new character we have been introduced to this season will die. End of story...

- scratch gets a scene after the credits again...this time its just her and tardust driving...discussing where they are going. would Saul have been foolish enough to have brought the ft. Irwin patch with him in the swat van?

- I hate to say it, but the riley kills scratch theory probly holds more water in my theory book now than it did before. Right now we have pegs, Kelly, riley, scratch,tardust...all either Mia or whereabouts assumed/unknown...i could EASILY see a situation where riley is assumed dead and left behind at Irwin..a little later pegs/kelly make it there...somehow...and at the tail end of the season we find out scratch/tar are headed that way...i would totally buy that shit for a dollar...

-kaw-

And my mind expands even more...

Your ideas have me thinking about the sightings of the special "named" Zeds. We have TOWTM/pinstripes, Randy/the bearded one, the one st the hospital (presumed to be TOWTM), and the one in the arena (colored one?). We mostly assume these equate to only 2 Zeds. But what if they aren't?

We could have up to 4 leaders/groups in LA instead if 2. That might change the landscape in season 4.

[7oddisdead]

The zombieland is the debil!

[7oddisdead]

And my mind expands even more...

Your ideas have me thinking about the sightings of the special "named" Zeds. We have TOWTM/pinstripes, Randy/the bearded one, the one st the hospital (presumed to be TOWTM), and the one in the arena (colored one?). We mostly assume these equate to only 2 Zeds. But what if they aren't?

We could have up to 4 leaders/groups in LA instead if 2. That might change the landscape in season 4.

or....one. He just tattoos more than just inklings...randy having something on his face just reiterated something I've believed for a very...very long time...

Ink makes his own dopplegangers

[Witch_Doctor]

I can't shake the thought that there is a Scratch-Family-Ink connection. Randy's mark jumps out to me as being a scar like Scratch's.

[FelixTheLastJumper]

I see randy or TOWTM falling in the fight between the colony and the horde. The ensuing power battle would be epic!

[Witch_Doctor]

OK, rather than re post everything written in another thread I'll just link to it: Behemoths-Theory.

In a nutshell

1. Only two remaining Behemoths.
2. Randy and Ink are separate entities. Possibly at odds.
3. Zombie horde approaching the Hospital not under the control of Ink. That's why he didn't call others when he encountered Riley and Kalani.
4. ...

Screw it, here it is...

I just started a zombie theory like 2 days ago i think
and i already thought about another one.

in chapter 35 part 2 i came out with a thought about randy and TOWTM being enemies, but i see alot of people has think the same, in case this was true, who controls the behemoths?

I just cant stop thinking about it, let's start by counting how many behemoths are out there? Ok theres the first one of the water station, theres one at the arena, theres the one angel and kalani saw outside the army base that was dying, then the other one that attacked them after they got the MRE's, then when they killed that one with the building two more came, but one of them was the one from the arena (arrow in eye). Also when burt riley angel and kalani were at the hospital they saw two among the biters. Im just putting out there all the times they were seen, oh and i think the one that skittles saw trying to grab the cat.

So now analyze time!

My theory is that maybe there are a total of 4 behemoths, we know for sure kalani killed the one that was dying outside the base, so thats 3 now. Then the one that died with the destruction of the building, thats 2. After that later on it goes to chapter 23 the devil's workshop, we're we know there were 2 behemoths at the hospital. The reason im bringing this up is because in case randy and TOWTM were enemies, then they both have some type of control to some behemoths. Im assuming TOWTM wasnt the one at the arena no one ever assured that, and i dont think we can say its him. Right now in chapter 35 part 3 i forgot who mentions that "there is a mass of bitters by the police station, and with them 2 behemoths" so its just 2 for now in the colony, then when they start attacking burt mentions "look there by the police station, theres the fucker with the suit" so he was among those mass of bitters, and the one with long hair and big beard didnt seem to be close to them because victor said "he was by the other gate." I dont know if that means he was on the opposite side of the colony, that kinda will give us a clue that maybe its a zombie war. So can we assume TOWTM has 2 behemoths and Randys behemoths are dead? Another thing im thinking alot about is about the first appearance of the little ones back on thebase with angel and kalani. They were on the roof, i guess preparing to attack them but when angel and kalani got out they werent there because they left. why did they leave? can we say it was because of the new behemoth coming for angel and kalani, meaning that those little ones are some type of enemies of those behemoths?

I'm sorry for writing alot
lol
Well what do you guys think

What if TOWTM had all of the behemoths and Randy has all of the little ones. This is also assuming that they have them under control and they are in factions, but I'm thinking that they had two bases. The hospital and the arena. The zombies had already been to the hospital when Kalani and friends got there, the hospital could have been a secondary base, where randy (still under the "control" of TOWTM) worked on the little ones, and the behemoths. after the explosion at the arena, I'm guessing that there was a change in power, slight, but it moved randy higher up and he continued to move up as we didn't see them for a while in the main story line. They could have split off at some point and become two waring faction, but we haven't seen any fighting. They could still be on the same side, but something that happens during the fight at the colony turns it into faction warfare.
Just my thoughts branching off the control of the behemoth and the little ones.

Coincidence or Evidence?

1) During part 2 of 'Blood, Sweat and Tears' Riley mentions a Zombie who is huge with huge muscles. Behemoth to be?
2) In The Devil's Workshop Riley and Kalani discover a room in which it looks as if something had burst through the door and frame. Behemoth was there?
3) In the last part of Blood, Sweat and Tears, when they are watching the tracking devices, Angel mentions zombie cliques because the tagged zombies go off into two different directions. Three go south and three go east. The Water Pumping Station is mentioned as being south of the Tower (For some reason the Map shows the Pumping station towards the north.) Zombie Clique

Jumping off what the doctor said, what if we have a "devils rejects" type scenario?

So just connecting the big, muscular dots we have what would seem to be evidence of behemoths at the hospital, skittles analysis of big ones not getting along with the normal ones, very few big ones exist...and then we bring Randy into the mix...

Speculation time.

So lets say the behemoths were the first experiment. Perhaps ink didn't like what he created, so he rejected them...cast them out. This could help explain skittles' early study of their behavior...now when we introduce a character such as Randy..certainly one we could consider as "smart" and quite possibly turned by, or in the vicinity of two behemoths...perhaps he at that point took the persona of someone they could look up too..a leader if you will. Now, if Randy rejects the leadership of ink...and he has the behemoths behind him...then that could explain how skittles analysis of their behavior was both right...and wrong.

Speculating where the Formerly Living 7odd left off, was the horde of zombies and the Behemoths approaching the Hospital lead there by TOWTM or were they CHASING him?

After Riley shoots him with the arrow, Kalani wonders out loud why he didn't call others. Then as they are escaping he asks the question again with an emphasis that the audience is supposed to take note of this fact.
So, if they were chasing him then he probably wouldn't want to call them to him. This seems like the second time he didn't call zombies when he could have used their help. The first was when he entered the Tower. He called others after Duncan let him into CJ's Dunbar, but after he gained entry into Micheal's Tower he just knocked on an apartment door like he was passing out religious pamphlets.
TOWTM was seen directing the zombies during the War, after the Mallers were chase off, BUT there was no Behemothian Rhapsody as they were not present.

[clem131]

I think we'll have desperation and bad luck all over the place, tempered by a spark of hope in the reunion between Michael and Saul.
I hope that something, anything works for the survivor. Even something simple, because the way things have been in the last 2/3 episodes it's just bad luck over and over again and the total desperation-nothing works-zombies are invincible thing is getting a bit tough to endure.