Characters You Hate!

I HATE DATU! At first i didnt mind him, but he's really getting on my nerves ever since the arena incident. I just dont like his negativity, and the fact that he's ready to just give up, at this point he's dead weight, and you might as well just throw him out cause he's not doing anyone any good by crying in his room.

Lots of people hate Kelly, but she hasn't been so bad during the 2nd season

Lots of people hate Pegs, but she's done a lot of growing up since season 2.

ooh also Kalani has been kinda useless, and just makes a lot of situations worse]

well thats my rant, if u hate someone, hate on cause haters gonna hate

I couldn't stand Angel until a couple of chapters ago. I expect a lot out of officers (I'm an NCO) and he couldn't deliver. Recently, he's sacked up and actually been an example like a leader should be, which I appreciate.

I at one point hated Michael cause he started to become such a huge douche of epic proportions. I can understand sometimes snapping at people like Kelly for not appreciating anything and wanting to sit around and do nothing but sometimes you just have to be the bigger man.

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Originally Posted by Ra1th

I HATE DATU! At first i didnt mind him, but he's really getting on my nerves ever since the arena incident. I just dont like his negativity, and the fact that he's ready to just give up, at this point he's dead weight, and you might as well just throw him out cause he's not doing anyone any good by crying in his room.

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well if you think about it Datu has been through quit a bit of intense stress. he watched Samantha Die in the Arena and thought he was going to die there too and add to all the things that happened in the tower afterwards would take a toll on anyone.
not everyone can handle things like that and im sure he'll come back around at some point in the story. he cant cry about it forever right?

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Originally Posted by Spud

well if you think about it Datu has been through quit a bit of intense stress. he watched Samantha Die in the Arena and thought he was going to die there too and add to all the things that happened in the tower afterwards would take a toll on anyone.
not everyone can handle things like that and im sure he'll come back around at some point in the story. he cant cry about it forever right?

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i know he's been through a lot, and he's fragile and i could accept that but then in chapter 13, when michael, lizzy and i think angel, were trying to rally the troops into fighting the fire, he gave this "why should i help, we're all gonna die" speech, and that was the last straw for me, like at the very least if ur gonna be super negative, dont screw over everyone who still wants to keep fighting. and i know theres a whole side to it, but until his attitude changes everything he says just makes me resent him

Burt- season 2 version. He used to awesome, but all once he got into a leadership position he just can't cut it. The food and water and stuff does seem to be genuinely scarce, but he seems to be making all the wrong moves.

Datu is pretty whiney, and while it's understandable it drives me nuts. Hope he pulls himself together, he used to be pretty likeable.

Kalani. I feel deep down, he means well, but, he such a constant dick about everything.

Kelly - after her really bitchy attitude from the begining, I havent really liked her. Shes not so bad in the second season, but for a while there I was hopeing she would get bit or really go off on her own. Then her nephew got bit and I was like: "wrong person!!!!". Still love the story though. Like I said, she hasnt anoyed me as much so far this season.

Angel - For a while there I thought he was kind of weak and really kind of a back burner charachter. But after the episode where he and the other guy get helped out by skittles running from the big one, Ive changed my mind. Hes a lot better in the second season. The intensity in his screaming is killer! Almost as if hes finally coming out of his shell and really getting the life and death situations hes falling into. Man-ing up if you will.

Scratch - someone bite her already, or kill her. Not that I dont like her being in the story. They have really made her pretty hateable for me (excelent acting). Shes like the bad guy you cant wait to get what they have coming to them.

I hate Kalani so much. Such as kiss-ass and a tattle tale. I mean he just lay in some comatose state while poor Samantha was ripped out of it. I hope that he dies very soon, a man of his size can't keep going in a world such as that for much longer.

Pegs is such a moany bitch. I just don't like her at all. Her insistance on not using a gun, causing the Zombies to appear at the tower in a retarded move, and expecting Michael to just let her jump into his arms when he says "I know" when she says she likes him. She expects way too much.

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Originally Posted by I The K Train I

I hate Kalani so much. Such as kiss-ass and a tattle tale. I mean he just lay in some comatose state while poor Samantha was ripped out of it. I hope that he dies very soon, a man of his size can't keep going in a world such as that for much longer.

Pegs is such a moany bitch. I just don't like her at all. Her insistance on not using a gun, causing the Zombies to appear at the tower in a retarded move, and expecting Michael to just let her jump into his arms when he says "I know" when she says she likes him. She expects way too much.

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i hated peggs when she pulled her no gun crap, and then risked everything for a stupid cat in the beginning, but i thought it was pretty wierd of michael not get it on with peggs a lot earlier, like seriously, its the zombie apocalypse, the world is ending, theres like 10 girls in your tower, and one of em is just begging to get with u, its not that complicated

Nahhhh Pegs is fine. She's stepping up the plate.

Now, Scratch scares me. She's going to do something down right insane and get a lot of people killed....

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Originally Posted by Ra1th

i hated peggs when she pulled her no gun crap, and then risked everything for a stupid cat in the beginning, but i thought it was pretty wierd of michael not get it on with peggs a lot earlier, like seriously, its the zombie apocalypse, the world is ending, theres like 10 girls in your tower, and one of em is just begging to get with u, its not that complicated

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I see where you're coming from. I'm just saying if I was Michael, I wouldn't be thinking about having a relationship in the middle of a Zombie Apopcalypse. All that would be on my mind is survival. Now if it was just sex and not a relationship, it may be a different story. That's just me though.

I think it's just a general dislike for her anyway. Even when she is stepping up by shooting latch I still don't like her.

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Originally Posted by I The K Train I

I see where you're coming from. I'm just saying if I was Michael, I wouldn't be thinking about having a relationship in the middle of a Zombie Apopcalypse. All that would be on my mind is survival. Now if it was just sex and not a relationship, it may be a different story. That's just me though.

I think it's just a general dislike for her anyway. Even when she is stepping up by shooting latch I still don't like her.

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I'm pretty sure, if the zombie apocalypse came, and i got to some kind of safe haven. When things calmed down, i think i'd start chasing the cat (and i aint talkin mr wiskers). Michael had it wrong the first time, and kinda got it right the 2nd. There are 3 things people need. Purpose, sense of security, and fun (ie, wah chicka wah wah...)

My line for the ladies, "what!? oh comon... like we're gonna live that long. comon... please? damnit..."

I love reading all of these.
even when i cant relate to some peoples opinions its funny to see it from someone else's point of view

I generally like all of the characters. Some of them were really getting on my nerves like Michael back when the tower got attacked. He just seemed to be bitching about nothing and refusing to help like a pouting child. Also latch is insufferable but no eureka moment there.

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Originally Posted by sdkmcqueen

Also latch is insufferable but no eureka moment there.

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What's so bad about Latch, he seemed intelligent, cool-headed, and willing to talk things out. Him and Scratch are like two sides of the same coin, well, they are twins after all.

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Originally Posted by Wicked Sid

What's so bad about Latch, he seemed intelligent, cool-headed, and willing to talk things out. Him and Scratch are like two sides of the same coin, well, they are twins after all.

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Sorry, I meant scratch. She is a craaaaazy bitch.

I really dont like Kalani. He seems like a total kiss ass that just gets in the way and makes trouble.

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Originally Posted by hardrocknguy

I really dont like Kalani. He seems like a total kiss ass that just gets in the way and makes trouble.

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He seems to be a fan favorite, (to hate).

I'm going with the flow here: I also can't stand Kalani. However, I do want to add that I dislike only his character in the story: his voice acting is great and fits the part excellently. Therefore I don't mind if he stays on the show longer.

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Originally Posted by cPT.cAPSLOCK

I'm going with the flow here: I also can't stand Kalani. However, I do want to add that I dislike only his character in the story: his voice acting is great and fits the part excellently. Therefore I don't mind if he stays on the show longer.

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I have to agree, his voice acting is top notch, but the character is just a D-bag.

But of course, if so many people are disliking him, then credit really needs to be given to the actor and the director for doing a good job at making us dislike them so much.

I can't say that I've read all of the previous posts, however Kalani is the least favorite. In the beginning, he seemed really appreciative that he was saved. However he seems to be a bit of a brown-noser to Burt. He definitely isn't helping the morale.

Yeah. I dont like it. He seems to be playing some angle that we dont know about. I dont trust him.

Its annoying that lizzy keeps being a bitch to angel about not stopping and saving saul. there were like 3 or 4 other people with them down there, so why doesnt she get mad at burt, or peggs or michael for not stopping and saving saul. none of them did anything either but she yells at angel... ughh

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Originally Posted by Ra1th

Its annoying that lizzy keeps being a bitch to angel about not stopping and saving saul. there were like 3 or 4 other people with them down there, so why doesnt she get mad at burt, or peggs or michael for not stopping and saving saul. none of them did anything either but she yells at angel... ughh

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She yelled at Michael too, but he reminded her that he has a broken wing. You'd think she would take it out on Burt the most since this is technically the second time he left Saul for dead.

You know, a lot of the characters can get on my nerves sometimes, but really the one character that I hate the most by far is Kalani. It was frustrating to listen to him whine and complain during Chapter 17 and it also pissed me off how frustrated Angel and Kalani made Skittles when they were crowding him with questions. I mean really give the guy some room.

Not exactly hate, but I'm not a big fan of Angel. He's such a terrible example of an army officer. It's as if he has no clue what he is about. I know he hasn't seen combat like Michael or Saul, but the training should be there. By the way he acts you'd think he has never read the first field manual or been to any classes.

In particular, the modern army places a huge emphasis on communication. He seems to have no thoughts about that. None of them have so much as tried to find a military/shortwave/ham radio & attempted to find and re-join other military units. CB won't cut it. If I was an isolated soldier in a bad situation that would have been among my first thoughts. Strength in numbers, prepared supplies, ammo, training, etc.

I get it that immediate needs come first, but if you have time to party you have time to find a satellite phone and dial a few numbers.

If 2 people need to get eaten to cull the herd at the tower PLEASE let it be Datu and Lizzy. They are so annoying.

Wooly,

LOL.. Angel is more than likely a "Butter Bar." Every (Non prior enlisted) Lt i've meet is clueless or acts like they know everything. He has NO exp whatsoever other than going to the Army's Officers traning course.
He's getting treating like one would in combat. Let the NCO's do their thing, learn and take care of the big picture. I'm not even going to harp on the fact that he's a reservist because the Total Force way of life now, really uses them like AD.
The one thing I will say: He's growing.

ugh, i replied before answering reading the rest of your comment.
Agreed, their priorities are a bit off. The only thing is that the CB is the ONLY thing available. Burt being such a survivalist, may have a Ham radio in his shop. We'll see if they ever go back.

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Originally Posted by HaveCrowBarWillTravel

ugh, i replied before answering reading the rest of your comment.
Agreed, their priorities are a bit off. The only thing is that the CB is the ONLY thing available. Burt being such a survivalist, may have a Ham radio in his shop. We'll see if they ever go back.

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Why haven't they gone back to Burt's shop. He has ammo and guns and I'm sure maybe a few leftover claymores. And to be honest I hate Datu, I think he would be a lot more likable person if Samantha was still alive. Plus if Samantha were still alive then Kalani would be dead. And SPOILER ALERT. . . Hope would still have a mother. Three birds with one stone.

to quote the beginning of the second season, Burt doesn't like "putting all of his eggs in one basket"

peggs!!!! awwww she makes me want to rips out my ears!!! always complaining, like returning latch's body to scratch wtf!!!! really and DA angel!! for agreeing!!! just lie you big dummie!! Kalani he worries for himself and not the group, which save his Ass!! but Peggs is the one i cant stand just shut up and do what is told to you!!!!!

Datu, for having so much self pitty, it's time to pull his shit together.
Season 2 Burt, he just irritates me but at least he manned up to take control.
Kalani, for being a kiss ass and rat. Being out of shape like him he should of been done a long time ago.

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Originally Posted by nickombie

peggs!!!! awwww she makes me want to rips out my ears!!! always complaining, like returning latch's body to scratch wtf!!!! really and DA angel!! for agreeing!!! just lie you big dummie!! Kalani he worries for himself and not the group, which save his Ass!! but Peggs is the one i cant stand just shut up and do what is told to you!!!!!

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just to bring up a small point, for dropping of latch's body, i know it seems stupid, but it is building a foundation for a truce and maybe even an alliance between the mallers and the tower

also do u have any relation to nikvoodoo?

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Originally Posted by Ra1th

just to bring up a small point, for dropping of latch's body, i know it seems stupid, but it is building a foundation for a truce and maybe even an alliance between the mallers and the tower

also do u have any relation to nikvoodoo?

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I doubt Scratch would be willing to forgive Pegs so easily. Maybe Pegs dies? I know for sure that Scratch is going to survive until the end. For sure!

maybe she wont forgive pegs, but i think there's a possibility for an uneasy truce. both sides took damages in the war, the mallers came to the realization that the tower is a formidable opponent, and cant just be taken over at a whim, and the tower clashed with the mallers and probably feel like they can fight with the mallers on their level, and have a decent shot at winning. so by no means are they gonna turn into bffs, but a temporary alliance, along the lines of the enemy of my enemy is my friend, i think is a possibility
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Originally Posted by Ra1th

maybe she wont forgive pegs, but i think there's a possibility for an uneasy truce. both sides took damages in the war, the mallers came to the realization that the tower is a formidable opponent, and cant just be taken over at a whim, and the tower clashed with the mallers and probably feel like they can fight with the mallers on their level, and have a decent shot at winning. so by no means are they gonna turn into bffs, but a temporary alliance, along the lines of the enemy of my enemy is my friend, i think is a possibility
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You keep pressin' the point ra1th! ;)

I don't see Pegs and Scratch being able to salvage any kind of relationship. Scratch is far too unstable a personality to forgive anyone. If we go with Ra1th's theory of an alliance, Durai would probably form a relationship with the Tower against Scratch's wishes, but she would go along with it to get closer to Pegs in order to kill her. I don't see Pegs dying at Scratch's hands though, so Scratch will probably go all Gollum on us: Tries too hard to obtain her goal she ends up killing herself in the pursuit....

I need to stop giving away Voodoo Lounge type predictions on the regular forums! :p

but on the actual topic: Is it too much of a cop out to say I like all the characters? I adored Kelly in season one because of the tension she brought to it especially when Michael forced her outside and she showed how truly scared she was to be alive in this reality.

All the characters people hate on seem to do it for the superficial reasons (Datu's a whiny bitch, lizzy is so annoying, Pegs makes me want to rip my ears off etc etc), but when you explore why they do what they do everyone is so interesting and played so well. I'd honestly hate it more if like suddenly Datu comes out whistling a tune at the party and having a grand old time. That sort of inconsistency would make me hate a character. But just because they act heel-ish doesn't make me dislike them.

Maybe it's all that pro wrestling I watch that makes me not hate the characters I'm supposed to....

hahah for the record, i do have a one track agenda, and that is keep the angel haters at bay, and undying support for the maller/tower alliance theory, (at least till disproven (and then i'll find another theory to support all the time!))

but also, good insight on the hate characters for a reason thing, and with that, there is no excuse that i hate datu for being a whiny bitch (its justified for him) but if i may say so, i find Lizzie annoying for her overprotectiveness of saul, which is NOT justified. there is no compelling reason for that attitude, in fact both of those characters take foolish and irrational actions and stances when it comes to protecting each other, lizzie blaming angel for not saving saul, when the blame is equally michael and burt's fault. and saul was getting ready to tear michael's head off for lizzie passing out during the chloroform and mug the zombies operation. i can understand protectiveness to a certain degree, that would be expected, since they are in a serious relationship, but these guys both overdo it. saul's pretty hilarious tho, so he's not really annoying, im not all that attached to lizzie, so she gets put in the annoying corner.