Here we go!
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Here we go!
First one!
Everyone's at least half as excited as I am???
I am. I am on pins and needles. This is the best thing about Mondays.
Thanks Kc. I've been eating bowl fulls of crow at work this morning and never got a chance until now to get here.
Ruh-Roh, the last threat was the chopter...
Zombie Pterodactyls! Hoff was right!
"It's because of us. We are responsible for how bad things have gotten."
Says it all ...
All of these flashbacks kind of threw me for a loop at the start but they definitely were handy for refreshing the memory.
A flying zombie? How would that even work?!
I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the idea that Ink is only reactive to threats and is nearly innocent in all of this. Yeah, yeah, I know he's not innocent but this is definitely the vibe I was getting from the episode.
Humans are the threat, zombies defend themselves from the horrible humans. I suppose this might explain why he never attacked CJ when the tower fell but ... ugh. There has got to be something more to all of this.
Did Ink WANT to be turned? Did he know this was coming? Why does he need protection symbols if zombies are just a new species or stage in evolution? Would the other zombies attack him? Did he never intend to be turned in the first- wait. IS he turned? Do we have confirmation that Ink is a real zombie? I know everything points to yes but could that be something we're missing? Why would he spend so much time with the tattoos to protect himself against zombies only to turn into one? Isn't that some big waste of time?
So many questions to try and wrap my head around. This episode definitely needs a few more dozen listens.
i really enjoyed the style of this episode.
it was a little painful to hear all of the fallen commrades' voices, though.
Also, why do they want Datu, Tanya and Saul? Is Ink trying to use them as translators? Maybe he's hoping they can bridge the communication gap. Then again, how would he know they wouldn't turn on the spot? Do they smell differently? Zombie translator scents?
SAUL!!!! He is Branded!!!! Things are coming together.. Bill Roberts had no knowledge of the outbreak till after.. He was afraid of Death so he tattooed himself with all the protection markings from all cultures. His experiments were to figure it all out.
Tanya mentioning his being infected fixed him.. Now so much makes since.
Omega Man. I am Legend. Etc.. Men were the monsters in the Dark. Not the other way.
My Thoughts!
-Saul getting away was just like Datu. Bitten and Marked. They said that they were being targeted. Datu Multiple times, Tanya. Making Smart Ones to help him out. I am thinking Saul was a happy accident. Saul doesn't seem 'Smart One' to me. Betting it was just Randy being a dick.
-Liking that Ink may have just been a happy accident as well. He Tattooed himself up scared the poop of dieing. Still odd he put his hand out of the van. Someone is scared of dieing so he lets himself get bite? May have just heard it wrong. Testing the symbols at the jail was awesome. Liking how that is turning out. I don't agree with Tanya on them being the reason though. So they are supposed to just die? I see what she is saying though. It is so bad there b/c they are the only ones putting up a fight.
-Tattoo on Randy aka... HOLY SHIT I GOT SOMETHING RIGHT! I am good at understanding character, but my theories are always crap. I finally got one right. During the Season 3 Finale, when Saul said 'A bearded man with a mark on his face', I said "That is Randy. Ink Tattoo'd his face. Marked him as a Lieutenant" (Based it off the Little ones being Tattoo'd) and such. Jesus I was right. I am happy. Hooray! Not used to this feeling.
-Ink being turned may have made him sane aka.. HOLY SHIT I MAY HAVE GOTTEN TWO THINGS RIGHT????? I tossed this out a while back. Near beginning of season 4 When we saw how Datu acted and described being turned I brought it up again. I thought that maybe being turned focused Ink's brain and made him less crazy do to such. Maybe I was playing the long game with my theories and didn't know it. Maybe that "Ink is Father and Son" idea that KC said was wrong may really be true! (j/k)
-Something growing down below. That is creepy. Not sure what it could be. Little Ones are already almost unstoppable. Can't see what else can be done. Scary thought though. What else can be done?
One of the best episodes on a while.
I found this pie chart showing the breakdown of race for the total population:
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Given that "european" or white looks like it's in the minority I'm not sure if your idea fits. Then again, we don't know what's going on in the rest of the world.
So Pegs is the artist, find her a kit and tattoo everyone!
Loved this episode, so close to the end, and a lot of questions being answered.
So if it's only this bad here, I wonder if LA is the only place with Behemoths, Little Ones, etc?
Cannot focus at work while listening! Omg! Soooo many revelations!
Has anyone seen the cover photo for this one? Vic looks like a badass on it. Can I get that on a poster or something?
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-Liking that Ink may have just been a happy accident as well. He Tattooed himself up scared the poop of dieing. Still odd he put his hand out of the van. Someone is scared of dieing so he lets himself get bite? May have just heard it wrong. Testing the symbols at the jail was awesome. Liking how that is turning out. I don't agree with Tanya on them being the reason though. So they are supposed to just die? I see what she is saying though. It is so bad there b/c they are the only ones putting up a fight.
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I'm not sure where the idea that he stuck out his arm came from; it was more like they broke out the windows on both sides and grabbed what they could- an arm.
Well it seems im late to the party. Better download it now...
Well I guess it was only a matter of time before it happened....a We're Alive Clip Show!
I joke of course, the flashbacks in this episode added something that I can't quite describe. It made the whole thing come off as a little more...epic I guess would be be a good word to describe it. Definitely set this episode apart from the rest. There really was a sense of all the pieces locking into place.
Humans act, Ink reacts.
This is interesting. It does give off that whole Humans are the real monsters vibe of works like I Am Legend and others. I wonder how it fits in going forward. What can the survivors do that won't exacerbate things even further? I still expect an expedition down into the tunnels (using KODI still seems to be the plan, plus I would expect a chapter called "The Lion's Den" to include an exploration of said den.) but to what end? Is there going to be a final showdown to end Ink once and for all? Perhaps some variation on the "trap the Zs in the tunnels" theory Or will the survivors actually try to reason with Ink somehow?
Ooh was that Saul?
Wait, what are Vic and Michael doing...... Are they trying to lure them away to get to Saul....?
Oh shit, Little ones.....
YES SAUL IS THERE! But will he be ok.....? Oh his eyes are normal.....What the heck....
In the very first episode when Saul, Angel and Michael are at the base and the zombies come in response to the alarm, there's the distinctive roar of a behemoth. At least it's the sound that I've always associated with the behemoths - if the roar is something else, please let me know!
If there IS a behemoth on Z-day Ink wouldn't have had a chance to do all of his experiments and that must mean that someone else created them to start with. I've stated before that it seems like there were zombies prior to Z-Day since Michael described the pack on the freeway as "scarred and bruised" which leads me to believe they were created ahead of time. This discounts the idea that Ink is only responding to threats. Someone else must be involved.
I've gotta re-listen to this show through this new lens.
Reminds me of the south park episode where they go to the pool and it's filled with mexicans (minorities). Kyle breaks it to him that since mexicans are the majorities in the pool, that makes HIM the minority haha. Good episode.
Anyways. I think i agree with you that it can't be that they only attack minorities in the U.S. because then how would the country be infected that much. Correct me if i'm wrong but don't white people outnumber all other ethnicities combined here in the states? It wouldn't be all that devastating if it's only minorities.
But then again.. we haven't really came across too many black people in the show, and none latley. I think all the black chareters came in season 1. That, and how is it that Victor is the only mexican left in LA. That seems unrealistic! Lol jk
I think this means that it's my turn to hold the crow
Chapter 40.
First mention:
MICHAEL (V.O.)
Near the entrance there was a van, with bars along the sides. The windows had been broken into and there were large dents all along the rear. The back doors were wide open, hanging broken on their hinges, almost touching the ground.
And later:
The deck plays. Sounds of them attacking the van are heard. A few gunshots in the background.
ROBBINS
Move, move I’m gonna record this with my camera-
KELLY
Good idea-
MICHAEL
I can’t believe you found it-
KELLY
Shhh-
The sounds of the van attack continue. A man inside can be heard.
MICHAEL (V.O.)
Three regulars starting attacking the back of the van with Roberts inside, breaking in the windows trying to get to him. At one point it looked as if they got his arm-
(beat)
And then moments later, he stopped fighting back.
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I think the confusion is with "He stopped fighting back"; really it's talking about how he was starting to change at that point.
Well, rescue mission successful. And Saul knew it was Randy... Wonder how Randy will react to Saul not turning....
Well, like we thought, smart ones can see through the disguise-o-smell.
Oh boy, there IS something new after all.... wonder what it is...... Maybe like the Alien Queen, able to mass produce a stronger version of the Little ones....?
I vote they all Pack up and leave... Go north. Further than Boulder. Find a new home. Leave Ink a note. You can have LA. We leave in Peace. Right before a nuke goes off in his face..
I have always thought the specials were centralized to LA because of ink.
I'm with you here Jannit. Especially when Tanya broke it down about the cells. I don't know the timeline just isn't adding up for me.
Great episode though KC, loved the flash backs.
My question I am left with here. Why, AGAIN, did Michael shoo off people asking about Randy something like EDIT: "Who he is doesn't right now"? ENOUGH of this sh*t Michael. Just enough! Your going to leave out some details that could save freaking lives!
This is awesome, thanks very much! Are we to take this green bit as confirmation that Ink was actually bit by the attacking zombies? Nothing in the rest of it says they actually bit him. They could have stopped attacking when they got a clearer view of Ink's beautiful tattoos! :tinfoil:
Ah, okay. Thanks for the clarification. I'd always associated that noise with behemoths.