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Break ends tomorrow! Hope you had a great holiday!
Holiday has been so exhausting - looking forward to seeing some relaxation in the monotony of the wagesslave's life again ...
Surprise! Episode is up now.
listening now. oh gosh thanks KC!
I stayed up refreshing my feed and it worked out ha woo hoo. I'm unsure what to say at this moment I don't want to spoil anyone not hearing the episode just yet
Oh man, that caught me off guard. Better wake up and go listen to it....
so I get off work at 3am...thinking im just going to bed, and boom! I <3 you right now, kc!!!
edit* I don't think anyone EVER predicted that....
Downloading ... listening ... Since this is out of the regular schedule, I won't go havoc on the VIP Chat ...
WHAT????????????? (at about Minute 6+ ...)
Dark spot ... Dark blue shirt ... Brown colored pants ... "Go!"
*DundunDUNNN!*
this is so big I refuse to post anything for a few hours...but dammit its hard!
And nice to hear his voice again, too ... Was some time since the last time ...
God damnit, he's been put into a prison...
P.S. Not reading the other posts until i've listened to all of the episode....
I don't want to spoil anything more ... but ...
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Hilarious!
God damnit it was Randy after all...
Wait, Angel and Saul knew Randy? Damn... And he's saying he could of done something about it..... The theories about Michael having the chance to take him out and not doing anything were right...
Like how Randy was excited about Saul making it, and not Angel...
Where have i heard that voice before...
Well that's how he broke his arm....and all about Randy's origins/turning.... Michael pussied out and now we know the consequences... Least we know Randy is known to be classed as a Smart one.. Damn what an episode.
the wait has been so long for this.. i'm getting chills listening to it.
Randy at first reminded me of Skittles, but then i remembered it was Randy. I then thought it was Marcus or Gatekeeper, but then again, reminded myself it was Randy, and that I needed to be less stupid.
P.S. Sorry, i'm terrible, always post little posts instead of massive ones, i'm bad at thinking a lot at once...
So being a Smart One... means you still have some volition?
Randy said "Hi(?)" <BITE> then, "Go" <some sort of struggle> then, "Leave".
that sounds like a Zed that is in control of the choices he's making and is capable of issuing commands/instructions.
This interaction made me think of a scene in one of the Halo Books "Silentium" where an ancient forerunner 'colony' matriarch imbeds her genetic coding (or a means to communicate) with the Librarian via... biting her on the arm.
i know it's just a coincidence, but could Randy be trying to "communicate" with our human faction? Does being a Smart One also mean you keep your 'good nature' as well?
According to Skittles the Smart Ones are nearly as worse as Ink are; he considers them to have a high threat-level compared with other zomboes.
Burt also mentions that there are Smart Ones which seem to be more threatening than the usual zombos, 'cause they are capable of thoughtful actions instead of simply reacting to situations like regulars do.
So I feel inclined to say: No!
But: since they are capable of thinking and using at least some parts of their knowledge and maybe even wisdom, I think it is not impossible for remaining some "good conscience" or act "good" - at least to a certain degree.
So my question is: WHY did Randy want R2Da2 to leave? He sure as hell recognized R2Da2 not turning as quickly as we are used to seeing humans turn into zombs. Did Randy tell him to go and to leave, because he expects R2Da2 to turn while within the human colony and thus having the chance to turn the human community into zeehs? Or did he allow R2Da2 to get the chance to being treated by Tanya or at least receive some medical treatment? Or maybe something else?
We should not forget: When Randy caught Tanya, Tanya was not slain; instead them zombos took her and wanted to carry her somewhere. Why? Maybe the reason for this might be the same or something similar motivating Randy to keep R2Da2 alive ...
Best wishes!
Liam
I thought that Randy told Datu to "Get up", or a long those lines, not "Leave". As to why he only bit him and didn't outright kill him, maybe Randy knows that Datu will be turned into a Smart one, as Datu said to Victor when repairing the Pelican "I'm lucky i'm the smart one".....
Also, with Michael not being able to shoot Randy when he was turning, I would think it would be near impossible to shoot someone that you've been friends with for a long time, while it wouldn't when it is someone you don't know, like Fernando. Unfortunately, Michael would not know Randy would do the damage that he has been apart of....
So, there is still one big question remaining:
What happened to Pegs beforehand in order to give Michael the chance to tell his "Breaking Bad"-tale uninterrupted?
Hm...
http://www.tv-scripte.de/buffy/scripts/5-21/02.jpg
Wow, thanks KC!
I never served... Is the, I do not know what to call it, animosity, contempt, disdain, bravado, clique, between officers and enlisted men so great that Randy would not affirm gladness that Angel lived?
Again, we see the small world kismet in effect. Five million people in LA and a off the roughly 50 named survivors, Randy is someone known by the original three. Maybe Michael has to know Randy from before to demonstrate a bond and have Michael not kill him.
But since it is such a small world, I always leave the door open for something more nefarious.
The US Army does not get called up for local law enforcement. We got people being eaten, so I can suspend some disbelief, but in my mind it is easier for a rogue element to call up a few people than it is for the massive legal bureaucracy to get moving. There are just so many levels of crap that the system has to churn through to get an order to Angel, Michael and Saul
They get called really early. Unless there is a conspiracy to contact them, we have to believe that events on the ground go up the chain of command of local law enforcement, filter to federal government, back to the military and back down to boots on the ground.
So, is Randy not surprised/Glad that Angel made it because of a conspiracy he knew was in place or just because of enlisted man bravado?
Maybe Randy didn't really know Angel (not in the same unit) or he just didn't like him (very possible). Saul was a pretty gregarious, likable guy. Angel, maybe not so much and the added officer thing may have kept a distance between them since they were in different units.
Anyway, I'll have to listen again to see why Randy went to the base. Did he get called too? Or just decide that there was stuff there he might need?
I get the feeling that the call up was bigger than just Michael's unit (because the commander and a bunch of other soldiers were there and turned). Otherwise, I might think that Angel was acting separate from the chain of command for his own reasons. If multiple units were called in, then it's either a suspension of disbelief on a call-up or it's a much grander scheme that involved people higher in the chain....
Knowing Randy's involvement now in Datu's attack, I'm beginning to wonder what Zombie Randy might know. Is he motivated by a hatred for Michael because of the Waterworks? Is he trying to help the human survivors in some way? Is he on Ink's side? Is he against Ink but not helping the humans (in it for his own purposes)?
Given Randy's interaction with Tanya way back when and now this time with Datu - I'm thinking Randy is working on helping the humans in someway and it centers on Tanya getting information about the nature of infection/turning....
I think that people just weren't very fond of Angel, so the fact that Randy did not express any joy towards Angel is probably just that.
Also, I'm assuming that Kc did this just so that the story could unfold, one of the instances where he can't keep to fact, otherwise it not make the story progress properly.
when it comes to Randy not acknowledging Angel; it's simple, he didn't care for Angel. Angel being a higher ranking officer with almost no field work and his sense of entitlement at the beginning surely is enough to make someone show little respect for him.
when it comes to Skittles saying that the smart ones are more aggressive and as bad as ink, that doesn't mean that Randy or any of the other smart ones are always aggro, remember that Skittles came to that conclusion from personal experiences, i'm sure skittles didn't have a previous social bond with the smart ones beforehand. as far as they were concerned, Skittles is a nobody. and who knows the mental status of these smart ones, the bad ones could've been bad in life.
i believe they have somewhat of a grasp of consciousness, and the ones that follow ink chose to, i mean what else are they going to do try to join some regular humans? no way. they have their own kind now, stick with your own kind.
Damn, i haven't posted on this side of the forum in a long time, since season 2. it just occurred to me :^P
Michael has the world's worst timing...........
Someone just asked you to be the one to take care of them if they start to turn......... and you decide that it is the perfect time to tell him a story about the last time someone asked you to do that, and you just shut the door on them and left them........