Why wasn't Kalani eaten? At first I thought it was because he was ill, then playing sick, that that wasn't it because his butt got better real quick like after the rescue.
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Why wasn't Kalani eaten? At first I thought it was because he was ill, then playing sick, that that wasn't it because his butt got better real quick like after the rescue.
After the rescue he was being taken care of: he got food, water, and some medicine (not entirely sure about the latter).
Since dehydration can get you very, very sick (and he'd been there for a while) I think that's what his illness came from.
Also, IIRC the zombies just randomly took one of the prisoners with them. I guess it was just luck on his side?
The only reason they went for Samantha before him was she was much more animated and the zombies felt that Ink would enjoy the kill more.
I'm unsure on weather or not he played possum. If he did, bravo for him. Sam did say he passed out like that from time to time.
I think it was just luck. I truly think there is something up with him, but I think he just got lucky at the Arena. Larger people tend to get sicker faster without things like water and food. Just not as in good of shape. He has said time and again how large he is. The other Characters have even said things about it. Odds are that played a factor.
I just don't believe "I came here from the Island and I am a Pilot."
I think he is just a survivor. I think he would sell his mother's soul to be safe. I have a belief he is the Traitor and such from the other Tower and Our Tower.
Here is what I said in the old forums.
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A little background on Kalani since everyone seems to be talking about him.
I just re-listened to chapter 10 and made some notes:
He flew from a small Island in Hawaii to the big island. He and 9 others flew from there to LA (presumably LAX). And "landed loud. Only 3 survived the landing". He was picked up by survivors. He made it to the "other" tower and was there for 3 days before it fell.
Particularly interesting part was that while being held captive Datu's girlfriend said he was there before her. She also said he would be up and walking one minute then "down he goes" and "who knows what is wrong with him".
He stayed in this state and she of course was eaten/killed instead of him. Then he suddenly was awake when rescue came. They carried him for a bit but then he was able to walk on his own power.
When they got back he took "numerous bathroom brakes" and said he was happy to see toilets again. (not sure if this meant anything but it seemed out of place)
All, in all, to me it adds up to a sketchy guy. I think he was playing possum, and had done so each time earlier, when they came for a victim at the arena. Basically, he's about survival first.
I mean how many feedings did he make it through? Datu's girl said others came for her after she had been there and they were killed. Also she said she had been there about 10 days. That's a lot of feedings to get passed over on. He was doing it by looking the most pathetic. I speculate that the "one in the center of the ring" likes victims that scream and beg. An almost dead guy doesn’t sound like the best choice then...
But, if you listen to that episode, during the rescue dude was up and moving pretty damn good for a guy who was unresponsive when the creatures came in. Sam was pretty damn sure he was going to be next since he'd been there longer than she had. I gather, that had been S.O.P from what she was saying. It wouldn't seem that playing possum would work, but maybe his gamble payed off. We won't know until KC and crew enlighten us.
I don't think he's the traitor because he didn't know anything about the "Mallers" simply because he was in the arena after the other tower was overrun.
@Adogg,
I'll have to go back and repeep that ep. It does seem that he made it through a lot of feedings. All I know is he had some pep in his step once Angel showed up.
Agreed. I've thought from the start that he was playing possum. I predict we'll find out in the next chapter that he's the mole, a rat, and pretty much dirty all-around. Then again, he could go all Kelly on us and turn out cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by HaveCrowBarWillTravel
Kalani WAS playing possum. in a previous post, I found that he asked Angel and Rilley to wait. Then he asked them not to leave him. They dragged him through the hole and he was up. The creatures heard all the racket and angel had to pop a couple of them.
Angel says "we have to move!" and Kalani says "I think I can walk." He asks for a stick then by the time they get to the hallway, that bastard is running!
When they get to the hummer, he's 110 percent!
Though I'm somewhat skeptical of this theory myself, I mentioned on the previous forum that he has many characteristics of a diabetic. I've known a couple of friends who developed diabetes and went some time without being diagnosed, and in both cases, they were lethargic and suffered from a loss of energy but were capable of playing sports, swimming and other high energy activities. As a high profile case, Jay Cutler played pro football with undiagnosed diabetes just a few years ago (apparently MCL sprains are much worse than diabetes lol). Additionally, as the beasties use smell to find victims, the variations in his blood sugar level could produce a different scent in him which, along with his lack of movement, could explain why he didn't get taken in the arena.
Yeah, I think he is overweight. I'm not sure by how much but seeing as how he can at least somewhat keep pace when the group is running he most not be morbidly obese.
I would of assumed that he was overweight but not obese. I mean Burt is Burt, but he is not going to send an obese man out into the field for a recovery mission if he is so fat he would be a liability.
I would imagine him to be about 252 pounds = 18 Stone. I'm 16 stone and would imagine him being bigger than me.
I don't know why there is so much hate on Kalani. He could not have been involved in the shenanigans with the Mallers since he was new to the Tower. The story made it sound like the attack was within a day of his arrival.
I agree that his character is weird, being a jerk one minute and then being cool the next. I don't get how he could get away with being un-fit in a post apocalyptic world. I would have expected the Army dudes to insist on PT for all the Tower residents. Lliving in a tower with no elevator would suggest that you would get in shape whether you wanted to or not.
PT burns up calories. They're short on food, so staying in shape is actually detrimental to their overal survival due to the shortage of food. Think of how weak people get on survivor.
Now, when/if they get the MREs.. that will be a moot point.
While I'm not a fan of Kalani as a person, I wouldn't want to hang with him (he's be my last dodgeball partner choice), I do like him as a character. And he's clearly well written and well placed because we are all focusing so much attention on him. So, good job KC (and thanks for all your hard work by the way, I and a few friends of mine LOVE the show). He could be the rat, I'm not sure about all that, and I think that he very well may have been playing "dead" at the arena but in episode 18 part 1 (I think), he tells Angel to leave him and save himself just before the two of them are saved by Skittles. That's a bit selfless for someone that some of you think would trip his own mother to escape. I don't think he's as devious as you guys believe him to be. Cowardly maybe, but not devious, in my opinion.
Time and KC will tell.
KC won't tell. He's keeps his secrets better than J.J Abrams and the CIA together. LOL
No, I'll tell.... eventually.... through the story.Quote:
Originally Posted by HaveCrowBarWillTravel
Which is exactly what I meant. :-D
Can I tell you how much I'm going to enjoy the Kalani Redemption? There is so much hatred for Kalani and I understand why. With one notable exception, he has been written to be hated and between the writers, the actor, and the direction it has been done to perfection. Much like it was for Kelly. I put my money on Kalani turning out to be a decent and likable guy at some point.
If I am wrong, I will gladly eat my crow. But I gotta say, I think we're being taken for a ride and I smell that distinct smell of Red Herring.
Man! Why does everything have to be full of suspense. I'm gonna blame Kalani. Just kiddingQuote:
Originally Posted by nikvoodoo
I think Kalani is one of the Mallers, actually I think he's the traitor.
1. Everything was fine before he came along.
2. His story doesn't add up.
3. Skittles recognized him, and we know Skittles encountered the bad people (most likely Mallers) before.
4. He seemed to have already known that the weapons locker had already been robbed, and was trying to convince Angel not to check.
5. He's intentionally siding with Burt, the man in charge for the time being, he's most likely doing this so he can gain a position of power (and possibly even respect) within the Tower, and this makes it easier for him to execute his agenda.
I forgot about that, at first I thought Skittles just slipped, but that actually makes a lot of sense. You make a lot of really good points.Quote:
Originally Posted by Destiny
although we cant know for sure, skittles was a resident of the second tower, and at one point so was kalani, so i think its likely that skittles may have seen him there. it wouldnt be too difficult to see how kalani wouldnt have remembered skittles, just cause its like if ur the new kid in class, everythings new to u, but if ur a regular, and then there is a new kid in class, u'll notice him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Destiny
but who knows, maybe he even works for the zombies themselves. maybe he lead ink to the tower after they rescued him, maybe he lead ink to the second tower, cause according to his story, the second tower fell almost immediately after he arrived there, who knows
Well Skittles did say he ran away while ink was killing his friends, and ink was the one who attacked the second tower, can't say for sure but this was probably the same attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ra1th
1. Really? Ink broke into the Tower as he arrived. The Tower was attacked and swamped with Zombies before he arrived. I don't say that's fine. That's not a very good definition of fine to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Destiny
2. What doesn't add up? If you believe his story, he arrived from Hawaii being a pilot, his crash landing killed many of his passengers barring three, he was rescued by the other Tower, he was captured when it was raided and escaped with our Tower. We know he knows enough about directions to recognize Angel is leading him in the opposite direction when dropping Latch's body off.
3. I'll answer this below.
4. Kalani being the chicken he is wanted to take off only after they heard something else was in the warehouse with them. He wanted to leave the pallet of food too. That makes him a chicken, not a well informed Maller. Besides, if he was a Maller, he has a gun. If he wanted to go back to them, he would have more than enough information about the Tower when they dropped off Latch. Shoot Angel in the head, and call the Mallers to pick him up. He knows exactly how many people are in the Tower, the defenses and the weak points by now. By not doing it, proves to me he's not a Maller.
5. He's siding with Burt makes perfect sense to me. He tore Michael et al down when he saw the pitiful defenses vs. the other tower. Since Michael was in charge, he wouldn't side with him since he saw his leadership as lacking.
Ink is also connected to the Mental Hospital. If we assume Skittles saw Kalani in some other capacity other than while he was being dragged into the Stadium, here's another theory I'll throw out there into the ether: Skittles could recognize Kalani from the mental hospital. That could be the secret we assume Kalani has. Kalani could be a high functioning schizophrenic. And Skittles could certainly qualify by his behavior to having been institutionalized.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onslaught
I only say that to debunk why Skittles could recognize him but not remember why. I believe Kalani is legit from Hawaii and is a pilot. Nothing that has been stated in the story makes me believe otherwise.
Why hasn't anyone questioned Kalani on how he was captured? They could actually get some important information if they did.
Didn't Samatha say that he was there before her? Remember, the first tower lost people in bunches. One was during the convoy ambush and second during their tower invasion by Ink.
Sam ran during the invasion and thought Hope was killed. Obviously that wasn't the case and there are a few survivors from the first tower at the coloney.
Kalani can't be the "Rat" unless he's telepathic. LOL.
If you're a cynical person, then Kalani would be the perfect person to take with you during a run. There's an old saying when it comes to being chased by things: "You don't have to be fast. You just have to be faster than the person you're with." Tadahhh! Kalani on a stick!
I'll have to admit that i'm changing my feelings on dude. He's growing on me. We all want to fault him for playing possum, but HEY.. it IS you or me.
I view him as the ultimate scronger looking out for #1
I don't want to believe that any of the main characters are responsible. So might as well blame it on Kalani for being the rat, he's pretty worthless. Plus he's new and nobody knows about him. And he just gets in the way. He's the perfect scapegoat. Him or Kelly.
The information Kalani gives in Chapter 11 part 2 is very vague. I could have given that description, I know that sometimes Kc simplifies things for the viewers but this seems somewhat important to the story. My theory like some others is that Kalani isn't from the other tower, but learned the information from Samantha. He could be a maller or he could be from some other place. The map that Kc released has a lot of unknown/unused space. I don't think he would show that much if it wasn't going to be pertinent later on.
Wow... Never actually thought of Kalani being a Maller. Nice idea!
Kevin Flood is still awesome though.
Also, check out the map. LAX is right next to the Pumping station. It seems more likely that Kalani could have either been a maller that found a group there, and he decided to snag the story, or he was part of a that group and was discovered by the mallers and was then captured by the zombies, then took Samantha's story after hearing that Datu was in the tower. Kalani probably knew that he could be saved if Datu was from the tower. Because Datu was captured after Scratch and Latch made their appearance at the tower. I think Kalani is a maller who captured or killed the group from Hawaii and then was captured by the zombies, then got Samantha to tell him the story of the other tower. Kalani then faked being sick to try and make an escape. Datu showed up and Kalani heard that Datu was from the tower and figured that it was best to fake being from the other tower. The map and Kalani's miraculously quick recovery support this idea. Also Kalani had the guard duty when he first showed up it was too early to for him to know about the party but by then he definitely knew about Bill's stealing.
Finally, the Definition of the name Kalani- Sky, the heavens, Royal one. I'm almost positive that Kc picked this name for a reason.
Doesn't matter. His story doesn't add up. Hope and Samantha both told how they got out of the other tower, but Kalani hasn't. He was in LAX, extremely close to the Mallers, and then was rescued by people, who never made it to ground zero, that were probably east of the tower. Look at the map, his story just doesn't make sense.
Yeah, I agree NVD. I agree with others that K is just all about personal survival and I think he had a specific strategy of playing possum at the arena, but I also think that this makes him an extremely realistic character. I think there would be many like him in the unlikely event of zombie apocalypse. I think we've seen a little redemption in him now with his episodes with Angel & Skittles, but I also feel like Jonah seeing the redemption of Ninevah-- I know I'm supposed to be happy to see him becoming a likeable person but really I want to see him punished for not caring for others, like for passively letting the zombs take Samantha (cause I really think he was totally aware). He's a convicting character- I think we'd all like to think we'd be like Michael, but more of us would be like Kalani.Quote:
Originally Posted by nikvoodoo
Good call iheart. Though I think if I ate one of those corndogs... ohh ill be in the corner.
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Skittles I assume knew him from the stadium or maybe the other tower. Kalani just rubs me the wrong way in his shadiness. I'm not so sure he really is from Hawaii just because I don't recall him ever expanding on the zombies being different. Well how different and why doesn't he divy up the the info on that. Information that could possibly help. I may just have more personal issues with this character verses the content and facts.