Ok, so I released this early. Talk away!
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Ok, so I released this early. Talk away!
It is a good one. Just finished it! Good to hear some familiar voices again!
Saw that you released early on Twitter!!! Going to listen now!! Thank you!!!
Johnny 5 is alive!
Early bird catches the worm.
Burt's legacy in beta-testing, and just the right cliffhanger: "This is not good. There is a problem. Something's wrong."
All the best!
Liam
P.S.: Didn't I tell you about a good spot for a cliffhanger in 32-3 posting #60 ... ?
http://www.zombiepodcast.com/forum/s...ll=1#post46467
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Looking from the above I think it would be time to make the cliffhanger solid and change the perspective all along - i.e. switching towards Fort Irwin. I may be wrong, but would Fort Irwin be interested in rescuing the Colony; or would they be more interested in analyzing the Inglewood-situation? Also they have all hands to do with Tanya. There may be the chance to re-introduce Riley as well. My prediction therefore: #33 will be about Fort Irwin.
Solid episode! Great to hear familiar voices!!! Still can't help wondering wtf happened with Lizzy etc!
With all the layers of sound to the recording from CODI and the amount of times it played during the episode, I think we are going to get some little gem once Tanya listens a few times.
It is great to hear from some more of the gang.
Poor Tanya and Riley sound like they are going 'all work and no play...' in their own ways.
Hi there,
well ... does this mean we might see the infection coming to Boulder and thus creating a new hotspot?
o_O
All the best!
Liam
So the switch happen, but I don't mind change storyline. A couple things I thought about:
Micheal, have seem to read the Zombie Survival Guide, "Check the back, they like hitching rides."
The General, hasn't, send a zombie injury person to a dense population area. Hmm.. Has he read the title to this eps? "Maybe they should also check inside?" This mistake may cause him his rank/position, Mike promoted, Mike to visited LA or Boulder.
We see how the SATPhone channels are opened up.
Can anyone figure out where they the aircraft is going crash land?
Johnny 5 need to join up with Victor so they can form up the "Los Locos" :) Then they kick some balls INTO OUTER SPACE!
Wow! I often play "We're Alive" as background sound when I sleep at night. When I fall asleep listening to the first season I sometimes have nightmares. Often I dream that I'm in L.A. and imagine that I notice something not in the podcast or dream entirely new episodes all together. When I woke up and downloaded this at 9:00 a.m. EST I thought I dreamed another episode into existence. Had to come online to verify.
Awesome!!!!
Thank you.
One of my first thoughts was that Col. Kimmet screwed up big time. He was about to have Tanya executed when she wasn't even turning but sends a hot helicopter, containing his neice, to the only safezone.
It doesn't sound like they made it, though. If they had reached Boulder then Pvt. Carl Thomas would have said so. If they had reached Boulder and the sh.t hit the fan AND Carl didn't contact Ft. Irwin then I would have expected that they wouldn't have been able to contact Carl. BUT, they did talk to Carl. So, it seems likely that the Chinhook is down somewhere.
There seems to be other ways to communicate with the Chinhook. After losing radio contact, Cpl Puck can be heard talking directly to someone on the helicopter. He tells them to stay on course. There seems to be someone responding to him in the background but the voice is unitelligable.
Zombies don't seem to like the cold.
Dang it! I thought Tanya was about to tell Michael about what she's been thinking about after reading the journals.
Col = Durai. People at the top = epic failQuote:
Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor
Yeah, doesn't sound like it. But actually I expect the Boulder-dudes having roaming patrols. What if the chopper crashlands and suhc a patrol finds a bunch of wounded not recognizing the zombified/ zombie-infected and brings wounded back into Boulder?
Not sure about Zombies not liking the cold. Saul and CJ were attacked while waiting or intruding The Colony. Same time of the year ... I'd say the number of Zombies decreases because they have started to eat each other or simply die due to the lack of food. (arguable)
*bogus* Tanya is already a super-smart turned zombie and therefore don't even thinks about informing Michael or others ... *bogus ends*
;)
All the best!
Liam
I love the inclusion of CODY. The use of robots against zombies...my buddy literally gave me the "how to build a robot army to fight zombies" book the other week. I am a little disappointed that there is freaking war going on in the Colony and we are not hearing the continuation of it. I will trust KC though.
Red winter...haha just got it.
Riley is not psychologically well, Tanya is teetering (5 months in a bubble room, I would barely last three days). Still 5 months, no way in hell is she going to turn. I understand Kimmet's logic, but come on. That, or Tanya is a smart zombie that completely dwarfs our pimped out friend with the tattoos. He could trick us by hiding in the shadows, while Tanya can hide in plain view. That is my crackpot theory, I don't think Tanya is a zombie...but it is interesting. Also speaking of the well dressed man from my nightmares, I kind of miss him. Haven't heard from him since he scared me down to my future children in Chapter 27. What is he doing? Has he changed up his fashion selection? Gone for a trenchcoat in the winter cold? Maybe added a charcoal black suit to his pin stripes? Acquired a pimp cane? Got some jewellery? These are questions I need answered!!
My favourite part of this episode is the interaction between Puck and Michael. Pretty sure Puck is the only one Michael can talk to on his level. Man to man, soldier to soldier, though Puck still can't relate the way Riley and Tanya can with the shared tower experience. Also our most important information yet. Michael Cross cannot hope to beat video games on his own. I am sure Nurse Britt could help him with that difficulty though. And Puck can't do origami, second most vital piece of information in this episode. Of course I can't either, so I will judge. I am just sure paper folding is going to be a life or death thing later on...
Oh wow, I knew it! We want the colony but we got Irwin.
But I think we all know what could help Tanya... video games, a flat screen and no games? For shame.
I think Michael et al will eventually find the Chinook. In Chapter 30-1 he says that he pieced the story together from various accounts. He got part of the story of the condition of the copter crew from Cpl. Puck. Puck and Kimmet could reveal more info later if they were communicating with the crew for a considerable length of time before Michael arrived, but I think he meant that he got info from varying sources directly.
I'd hate to see Boulder over-run but Michael does say that the events changed everything.
He also mentions to Tanya that people are skeptical about the condition of L.A.. Does anyone suspect that there is a growing chorus of Zombie Apocalypse Deniers?
Careful man... patting yourself that hard on the back and you're going to sprain something...Quote:
Originally Posted by LiamKerrington
Stay tuned for WA Las Vegas!Quote:
Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor
Hi.
Yeah, too late. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Litmaster
Considering all the mad things I write this was like the blind hen finding a corn ... I was too excited ...
All the best!
Liam
Ok Random Thoughts...
Kimmet's Niece
There's got to be a reason, plot-wise, why this character is the niece of the head honcho and not just any old captain who got paralyzed. At first I was thinking that if they went down in LA, this would finally give Michael the excuse to head up a rescue team (since he could argue he has firsthand knowledge of the area, etc). This still may happen, but it all depends on where this Chinook went down.
Boulder
I don't think Boulder is overrun, mainly for the reasons Witch Doctor mentioned, above. Also, you gotta think that a place of that size would have put in place some solid anti-outbreak measures given the circumstances (something like the quarantine zones that Michael & Co. ended up in when they first arrived at Irwin.
Random Thought of the Day
I think the safest place to be in a zombie outbreak would be a medieval castle, wouldn't it? You've got thick walls, murder holes, a moat, a keep... Anyway--
They Ain't Zombies
Something has got to come from Tanya's experimentation, and one conclusion seems to be that this diZeaZe is not spread via blood contact, as everyone has been assuming. Perhaps it has more to do with DNA coding, or something. This is the first testing on actual Z-flesh, isn't it? Who else has really been studying these things?
But think about it: if these were actually reanimated corpses walking around, then their bodies would really be decaying after all this time, right? But there is no mention of that. I'm thinking some form of mutated human is more likely, but not dead flesh...
Come to think of it, Kc has been pretty light on the 'zombie' description lately. You'd imagine that after months of stumbling around and chomping people that most of these 'zombies' would be in shredded clothes or totally naked by now...
The Fate of the Chinook
And finally, the reason the Chinook went down: Ink found a way to cross-breed zombies & birds to make a flock funky-ass flying Zombiedactyls!
Hi there,
well, probably Boulder is not overrun yet. And actually I don't see it coming that way that it will be overrun from the outside. But I wouldn't be too surprised if an infected soldier gets into there, passes the final stage of mutation after having passed the first doors and starts dealing with his new 'paradise' from then on. Maybe there is a quarantine-procedure or -zone of some kind; but you'll never know what may go wrong. Just imagine an unprepared dude totally bored to death from standard-procedures and all of a sudden the expected unexpected happens ... Would he really act according to the rules? It's the human factor of doing things too wrong to make worse situations even more worse!
Also keep in mind how fast the Z-pocalypse destroyed the population of L.A. - it was less then a day! Ok, police, military services and whoever else were not prepared; but considering of few million people (in 2009 L.A. had something about 3.7 Million inhabitants plus all the people from the outside doing businesses in town!) simply ceasing to exist ... It's not very far fetched to consider something similar happening in Boulder as well, if someone epically fails on his duty ... But I wouldn't want to play devil's advocate here ... According to Michael we only guess for now: "Something's wrong!"
I agree with you: Zombies in WA don't seem to be the living dead thing, but something more along the line of 'mutated humans' or 'demonized humans' ... Tanya probably will tell us ...
Castle: Same as with prison. For some time you'll do pretty fine - until your most important ressources run out, i.e. water, food, maybe power of whatever kind ...
Zombiedactyls would be cool deluxe Royal TS with sugar on top ...
All the best!
Liam
Nope, it was Saul's flying squid that took it down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Litmaster
Kudos to all those who predicted the shift to Irwin. I gotta say I thought the story would stay with The Colony but its great to hear from Michael, Tanya, and Riley again.
I'm not sure what to say about this episode. We got helicopters crashing (maybe) and the Colonel's niece missing. Possible infected hitchhiker's on the helicopter. It's gonna be interesting to see where this all goes.
What I wanna know is what does title "Red Winter" mean. Either things are about to get real bad real fast...or the zombies are secretly communists! Either way I'm intrigued.
On a final note. The line of the episode: "Does this look like a duck to you?" I don't know why, but the way that came out of nowhere absolutely cracked me up.
Just to clean up the bad interpretation of Acronym...
K.O.D.I. Killing ordinance deployment initiative.
Disappointed we didn't reach some conclusion with the Colony. Very happy to hear Michael et al again. Especially since I'm pretty sure this is the first time I've heard Michael and Puck interact since I met the real life inspiration for Puck.
Riley will get her chance in combat. And she should have been through basic already so she should have the very basics of military combat at least. She may suck at it, but she learned it. She is now better equipped to take out Scratch.
Red Winter...hmmmm.....Boulder is about to get straight fucked up........
In this episode its Dec 3rd...so the events at the colony that we know of are yet to happen. The story from Michaels and Fort Irwins perspective is catching up to a head which I'm sure will be at the finale of this season.
Maybe Riley does get her chance to do something other than cook...I'm still saying that its her going to meet up at the colony and while not necesarily a combat mission, its Kimmet giving her an opportunity to prove herself, especially since she knows Saul etc...
The helicopter with the captain has obviously gone down. We see that Kimmet loses some ability in "doing the right thing" for the sake of it being his daughter. Now that its gone down there will be a rescue team going out for them...who will go, what will they find?
I think a difference between zombie and human will be found in the bone, or bone marrow.
Good point to make, that we did actually go back in time a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robzombie
As i pointed out (somewhere) the way things are being written ("But let me go back to Nov...that's when shit really started going crazy"-Saul [Worst paraphrase ever]) something makes Saul start writing in his journal again, he has not made any indication that he is caught up with present day (" Which brings me to now"..."and now i'm here").
It's my thought that saul is reporting this all because he is being told to write down everything he knows. Which leads me to believe that he is alive and not captured, maybe with michael.
but this is precisely why i think he's dead, or dies that is. His actions, or story come from his journal, and from Victors recollection (we have solo Victor scenes but I'm sure none of Saul if not obviously from his journal).Quote:
Originally Posted by awkwardalex
Wild guess #1:
The female soldier on the chopper (Kimmet) is wounded by a big little one - not a bite, 'only' it's claws with the 'endless number of fingers'.
In chapter #30 we learn about Roman having turned into a little one after having been attacked by little one #9 (or #6)- and that went pretty fast according to Glenn. But we don't know exactly, how Roman was wounded.
Questions would be: Is Kimmet actually infected? What, if the 'endless number of fingers' of the little ones serve the same purpose as the bites of regulars?
Wild guess #2:
Michael foretells 'it': The Chinook is a giant beast of a chopper; what if during the combat a smart one or even pinstripes was able to attach itself to the chinook and maybe even get into the heli during the flight? It was dark; and very likely there were many great opportunities to do something like this - covered by darkness, the noise of combat and the chopper ...
prediction for #33-2
The emergency cruise from boulder is ordered to fly into the direction of the Chinook in case it has to make an emergency landing.
Also and more importantly: Michael (and Puck and Riley and some others) might be allowed to start a rescue mission starting in Fort Irwin in order to 'intercept' the Chinook ...
Thoughts?
Please explain :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Pikepaw
Chopper crashed because the engine overheated.
I tried to stay away from the forums, I managed to do so for the entire last chapter but my life is better when I'm actively thinking and discussing We're Alive, so I'm back.
I'm very happy at the thought that we'll get to see the last few weeks/months played back from Michaels perspective. We're Alive for me is very much centered around Michael and all of the personal/emotional challenges that he surpasses. I'm also really digging Puck. That "fucking origami" line made me laugh out loud. My family gave me weird looks.
Keep up the great work KC.
Not bad as acronyms go. But why not B.U.R.T. for Badass Undead Robotic Terminator?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kc
Meh... maybe, but we've been down that road already. You really think that Kc would use the same plot device twice?Quote:
Originally Posted by LiamKerrington
Then again, the chopper is out of contact and presumably went down. The guy did mention that Captain Long is "stabilized and restrained in the back of the Chinook...and they've locked up the other guy too... just in case." So if they bird went down because of a Zed attack, it wasn't from these two, most likely.
And I doubt it was Pinstripes. Our inked-up Zope has been too busy making Zombiedactyls to do any of that grunt work on his own...
the Zope [a.k.a. "Zombie Pope"], copyright 2012 by Litmaster Int'l. All rights reserved.
There were some tantalizing clues to the overall situation in this story. Some observations:
• Big Macs (or was that Baked Mac?) at the mess hall? That speaks to a pretty robust supply situation. Either there's a supply of fresh beef available along with wheat, vegetables, etc. (via Boulder?), or there are frozen stores that are still viable. Both seem like good signs this far into the zombie apocalypse. My first thought when I heard the title "Red Winter" was that it could mean the survivors might face starvation, but this makes me think they might be better off than that.
• Michael got promoted one grade, from Sergeant E-5 to Staff Sergeant E-6. Puck did not, he's still a Corporal. I had half-expected that Michael would have gotten a field commission, since he's filling an officer's position.
• Michael declared that Yermo was almost cleaned out of zombies, and that the bodies he checked were locals. That raises many questions, such as what (or who) have they been eating all these months? It seems like starvation should be thinning the ranks of the zombie horde something fierce by now. And what happened to all those zombies who seemed to disappear out of downtown LA within hours of the Outbreak? I'd always assumed that they spread outward, spreading the infection. But then shouldn't we be seeing out-of-towners amongst the zombies being killed in places like Yermo?
• Colonel Kimmet's decision to divert the Chinook to Boulder is a pretty serious violation of normal medevac procedures. The rule is to get a casualty to the nearest adequate care facility, and to get them there within an hour of being wounded. Better to bring the casualty to a forward medical facility (Fort Irwin) in order to stablize them, then send them forward to more advanced facilities (Boulder). In theory they could have brought the injured Captain to Fort Irwin, stablized her, gotten her onto a fixed wing plane and still have gotten her to Boulder in less time than it would take for a Chinook to make the flight directly to Boulder.
• The fate of the missing Chinook is an interesting loose end. Let's hope it doesn't end up going down near a prison in Georgia!
• There were several references to the increasingly cold weather, but no solid indication on how that effects the zombies.
It gets cold at night in December around Fort Irwin, average night-time temperatures hover around freezing, daytime in the low 60s. And the wind chill can make it feel extremely cold at any time of day. On a cold day in the winter, with a good wind blowing, you can't wear enough clothing to feel warm outdoors.
LA is usually considerably warmer, mid-40s to low-50s at night, 60s-70s in the day. Locals bundle up, but I've seen people from colder climates handle the coldest winter days in LA wearing T-Shirts and Shorts.
those would be Canadians like me...buncha cry baby yankees cant handle a little chill....just kidding, settle downQuote:
Originally Posted by Cabbage Patch
Im normally in shorts from -10 to above degrees celsius, yes celsius get with the times, lol.
Our Canadian zombies got no problem with the cold
I guess the main and most important question we haven't discussed is:
What game was Michael playing?
:D
Kc posted it on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/AxleTheGameQuote:
Originally Posted by cupcakezombie
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Originally Posted by nikvoodoo
Oh hell, does this mean that when the SHTF that Facebook is still going to be working? Figures.....
Here in NM it can get below 0 at night and as high as 20's- 30's during the winter. My husband and I took a trip to San Diego one February before we had our daughter and we were wearing shorts the whole time we were there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robzombie
In Soviet Canuckistan we wear shorts and t-shirts while we shovel the snow away from our igloos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robzombie
And on those lazy days, a quick whistle to our dog sled huskies and were dug out in no time at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Osiris
