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New episode in about 5 hours! Woot!
Time to go back and relisten to 30-1 :)
I listened to part 1 far too many times. I need something new to chew on....
.....and I got my bath salts all ready......
Pregnancy confirmed!!!
South's fall to the Mallers confirmed!!
Who else thinks the "slaves" are the old guards from the prison?
How far along would Lizzy be?
He's Back!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ammo check, but no water check?!
Wow just.... WOW
God I love this show!!!!!!!
BEYOND!!!
This has been the season of the info dumps so far.
We had the resolution of the rat storyline
We found out what's been going on in the outside world
Angel and Scratch having a connection confirmed (RIP Angel)
And now we get confirmation that The Mallers took over the Colony AND that's Lizzie's Pregnant.
My head is reeling. I've got information overload, but it feels SO good.
So he's too good for WND, now he's just regular cast of We're Alive? God damn you Greg Miller!
Yeah good episode, shame we're such We're Alive junkies that none of this was a shock. That's the issue when you write a show with subtle hints that's dissected over several years; even the most hidden things eventually become known. I do feel like sometimes we've killed the story, but that's not the fault of the story. For instance, something great about this episode was all the repercussions that became evident - Michael's reckless call to the north, the decision to take most of the guns, etc. As Glen (Glenn?) said, in reality they were simply fighting for their own asses and not really thinking about what was the right thing to do or not. Now yes it is understandable and they were forced into horrible situations by the awful actions of some people, but by the same token, they did end up screwing a lot of people.
Interesting how they say Gatekeeper's rule was actually better than Marcus's. Not what I particularly expected, but it's not going to change my opinion of him. History has shown that even the most liberal dictator is eventually corrupted or dies by the sword. Very few have ever shown much of a commitment to real democracy (as in, not just democratic institutions giving them legitimacy), not even Gorbachev or Ziaur Rahman. Still, I assume he's alive; they never explicitly said he died.
So, Lizzy's hanging around one of thr bigger prisoners then? (The redeemable guy, most likley.) Anyone else think she's moved on from Saul? It has been months, after all. And it'd give CJ an opening? :)
Otherwise great episode! Seems like the little ones might turn into the behemoths. So they might not even be turned /people/ at all. Yay info and the pending leadup to the Ramboesque rescue of our favorite retired marine. (And probably Saul deserting to do it!)
I really don't think Bricks and Lizzy are a thing, I just think that he's of a good enough conscience where he sees the the righteousness in protecting and taking care of a pregnant woman. Also he probably isn't keen on Tardust trying to manipulate or coerce her into anything. Maybe he would be if she were still just Lizzy (ala when they first met, where he did nothing to stop Tardust, not that he was in the same room), but now she's pregnant and has helped saved their lives it's different.
No I think that's what's more interesting - they said that Roman actually became a little one, or at least a weird super strong probably stretch mark-laden biter.
I'm just wondering what happens if they actually do attack the Colony, which I doubt they'll do directly, or at least something will have to change in circumstances before Saul decides to mount a full-scale attack on a fortress. Perhaps they might sneak attack it, or maybe they'll somehow get in contact with the army. I'm not sure though, this all sounds a bit too straight ahead for KC and I'm kinda expecting a bit more plot development than that.
Cool episode!
I'd like to know how Pete and Glenn managed to escape from the Mallers... it seems very unlikely they are being used as spies ala Pippin and Kalani.
There were at least 3 characters who escaped: Glenn, Pete, and Roman
Mallers at Colony and Lizzy's pregnancy come as no surprise.
Very likely that CJ knows many of the 'slaves' in the Colony--most probably came from Dunbar Tower.
The 'big guy' that Lizzy is seen hanging around with is probably Bricks.
And if Glenn and Pete can get out of there... then why can't my man Burt??!?
Here's the school they are currently in: Dominguez Elementary
Quick Prediction: Glenn is going to help Saul get that satellite phone working so they can make contact with Michael
alright, so who called it? preggers lizzy, maller colony?
Hitler enjoyed this episode immensely.
I'm for the prediction, Litmaster. Given the Colony's defenses, it seems like it might be a good idea to get help, and now they have a comm expert with them to get it working. I'm kinda predicting that Saul and Riley are probably gonna go AWOL at some point to take care of the situation there. Unless the Colonel is smart enough to know that leaving a criminal stronghold up and running is a bad odea in terms of regional stability.
I did ages ago but that's neither here nor there.
When the "lost" episode of WND comes out sometime soon, I'mma look like a genius because I said the jump in time all but confirmed Lizzy was preggers.
I agree with those believing the little ones become the big ones...I guess they just grow into their fingernails eventually....
And litmaster: Burt can't get out because Burt is chained to a wall. Burt's a badass, but he's not superman.
This.
Awesome episode. I feel like I'm getting reeled back into We're Alive. I must have listened to 30.1 over 20 times, something I haven't been able to do yet with any chapter or part in Season 3. So these little ones, I think it's obvious they will be playing a larger role in the future, perhaps eventually there will be a method for Ink to turn regular biters into little ones? Oh man, I get so excited just thinking about the information that will eventually be revealed regarding who Ink is/was and just exactly how he is pulling all of this off!
So Mallers at the Colony... AWESOME. That should make for an intense fire fight. Now that Glenn can get the Sat phone working, like previously mentioned it's probably guaranteed we will be making contact with Kimmet and Michael. Maybe we will get some slick marine-like stealth penetration into the compound. After what KC managed to pull off in the Arena and in the escape from the Colony I'm betting he could pull something very difficult like this off quite well.
Lizzie is preggers, we all guessed that a while ago, but are we completely confident it's Saul's kid and not Rapists (I mean Tardust)?
Does anyone know what is in a standard military backpack? I want to know if they would have anything in it to communicate with HQ. Also was the down soldier the comm guy, bc that could make or break Saul keep the backpack.
I hoping Saul finds Micheal so they can fly down to the colony "flight of the valkyries" style.
I don't think they were comparing Gatekeeper to Marcus. I think it was Gatekeeper to Durai.
This definatly improved my morning!
The whole time is was a fistpump with every little thing involved!
Everything we knew and everything we did not get right (pete is not in charge of the colony, scratch is.)
And jeez victor! Every episode i think your about die! Stop it!
Might not have heard correctly. I'm working again so I can't listen until later tonight.
But yes. DEFINITELY a short reign. Like....less than a week short reign. That...that might almost be an error...I remember at one point Kc had said the events of Chapter 24 were in late August. It's been retrofit back to early August. Michael and crew made the call, and escaped the colony, and by the sounds of the events with Lizzy/Scratch Durai was already heading South. So unless he hung out at the Colony for a touch of time before taking over....Gatekeepers reign should only have lasted like.....4 days.....
And another point of contention: Saul says something like the Leader with the scar on her face and they obviously knew what he was talking about. Durai in theory is the leader, but man....everyone knows about Auntie Scratch!
The dead soldier from the recon team, Fowler, had the satphone. It's possible he had an FM radio as well, since he referenced using SINCGARS to check in with their base.
There really isn't any "standard" load for a soldier's backpack, it's all based on their individual assignment and the mission. This was a recon mission, so I'd expect it would contain a mix of rations, spare socks, a sleeping bag, the commo gear, batteries, maps and a light load of ammo.
I imagine given the distence, a hefty peice of gear would be necessary to communicate with Irwin (Probably what the Sat phone was for) And it is a serious question as to if the military has any real good reason to hero on up there with emancipation on their mind. Seems like Kc has been developing a more pragmatic military for the world. Given limited resources and personnel, throwing lives at something with little return wouldn't sit right with the CO.
So I was wondering...
What's the possibility that each type of zombie turns a human into it's own type now?
It seems Roman got turned into a new improved little one. The last potential turner was.. Tommy(?) and his re-life was too short to tell.
When Pegs and Riley were trapped on the flowershop, it was just a free for all of the basic grunt zombies and the crowd.
Thoughts?
To be honest, it's one of the only explanations I have for (presumably) Bricks to be around Lizzy all the time. Scratch immediately protected her once she found out she was knockered up. Bricks has been set as her guardian. So either Bricks and Lizzy have become an item, or Auntie Scratch is protecting her...investment? I dunno what you'd call Lizzy.
But again, I restate my support for Lizzy turning Bricks to her cause especially if they are buddy buddy hanging around the Colony.
I'm not so sure. Col. Kimmet struck me as a very by-the-book kind of officer, and when we last saw him he was maintaining the forms and policies of the US Army. The Colony would have to be a priority for him. To the best of our knowledge it's the third largest concentration of humans left in the world. It's potetentially a threat to Fort Irwin because of its proximity and the availability of heavy weaponry in the region. And it's part of the United States, its population are still US citizens. I wouldn't be surprised if the recon mission we saw wasn part of an effort to figure out more about the Colony and the Mallers prior to taking action.
This assumes, though, that Col. Kimmet is actually the one in charge. He could have a military superior in Boulder, or there could even be a civilian government that the military answers to (a'la Battlestar Galactica). They might have other priorities, or be unwilling to commit forces, or just be unwilling to act outside their own safety bubble.
Sidenote:
Greg is everywhere today. I just hear him on GiantBomb E3 podcast.
I can imagine Michael and Kimmet would both agree that leaving the Mallers unchecked with RPG's and other dangerous weaponry would not be a good idea. Knowing and experiencing what Michael has with the Mallers I'm sure he wouldn't put it past the Mallers to eventually attack/terrorize Boulder.