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New episode is less than 6 hours away!! Who be excited?
Me me me!!!!!
*wakes from a deep slumber* YoQuote:
Originally Posted by nikvoodoo
I'll be in class until mid afternoon. I expect this thread to be on page 4 or 5 by the time I get home and might get a chance to listen to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luna Guardian
Yeah, I won't be concentrating too much at class knowing it's podcast time.
I'll just comment here, and move the thread up. Don't mind me :)
Saul's mom is probably having Colony flashback. That could be the reason for the freak-out.
Question, has anyone seen zombies near ground zero?
ohh that scuba idea i thought of when i heard about thwe air being hard to breath but still good idea cant wait for next week!!!!!!!!!!!1
wait wait wait wait. somewhere around the 9 minute mark, saul says lizzy told them about the small ones with numbers on them. But there's no way she could have, she's been with the mallers the whole time. How does saul know that?
I was thinking that it could be that theory that Saul (and his mom) are immune to whatever this is. That burn she had way back when in the colony makes me think, maybe she was bit. I mean in the early stages of this outbreak I would not tell anyone I was bit, but normally you don't have anytime.Quote:
Originally Posted by UndeadSweeper
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Originally Posted by Ra1th
He found her video camcorder that's how he knew.. She recorded a log.
It was on her taped recording from Chapter __ (Can't think of it off the top of my head).Quote:
Originally Posted by Ra1th
ohhh whoops. nevermindQuote:
Originally Posted by Kc
I think he hear it on the tape recorder Lizzy left.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ra1th
Chapter 23 (I think so...) Saul find's Lizzy's bag in the arena with her tape recorder, we hear a snippet that says (paraphrasing): We were attacked...they're special, the little ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ra1th
I'm going on the thought that she may have described more, and Skittles told Angel about the little ones as well.
Lizzy said it on the tape that Saul found.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ra1th
Awesome episode.
Wonder what Kc is hinting at with that Vic quote in the credits :rolleyes: :)
Vic quote? Did I screw up?Quote:
Originally Posted by EVABLACKX
Doh! Must have been a glitch. It's "Start the Clock" just his line line repeated. At least it is low and at the end of the credits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kc
at about 20:38 there's an additional voice mixed in
Another cracking episode.
I think the reason Tanya was freaking out is that she has been bitten or infected some other way, when I don't know, perhaps recently, perhaps ages ago, but she is immune to it, and fearing that people will freak out and kill her or at the least kick her out she hasn't told anyone, but this will be discovered in the medical, so has decided to do a runner.
Seems like the only logical theory, flash back to the colony....I don't think so, seems far too much of an over reaction. She has only started freaking out when it's made clear that she is going to be physically checked out, she didn't mind too much being kept in a barracks (I assume under lock and key) for the time being.
I'm going to miss the whole Kalani story. That's been, hands down, my favorite part of the series so far.
I thought the whole Tanya freaking out came from when she was attacked back before the attack on the Tower. It happened and then it was dropped pretty quickly, I figured it has a good chance at being brought back up.
Tis a good Monday all of a sudden!
This episode should please so many different people in so many different ways! Some people hated Kalani's backstory: It's over! Some people have been wondering what's going on at ground zero: Here we go!
I think I'm as guilty as others who overlooked (purposefully or not) Tanya's injuries at the hands of Randy/From the Colony. Especially the Colony injury. That seems like forever ago, and it's really only been what.....a week? Week and a half? If she's slowly turning.....hmmm.....
And I'm starting to reconsider Cj's piss poor execution. This plan with Saul and Victor (Vicki....titter) is pretty damn well thought out (as always) and if they succeed: She gets info. If they fail: She looses some supplies, but she'll live longer on what she has. And she's only sacrificing some people she barely knows who tried to choke her the F*** out when they first met!
I think Saul was uh...just reaching a bit when he says she didn't want to shoot him. Seems like that shot only missed because Victor got there just in time.
I'm sure we would have heard something if Tanya had been infected already, there'd have been some sorta hook. People are no longer branded with fleur-de-lys however, so one does wonder what she got so freaked up about. My initial thought was that she had been abused by a man and was reluctant to put herself in a situtation where that could occur again, but that theory was blown away with the female nurses. Maybe she hides something under her clothes, signs that she's a drug (legal or illegal) abuser, maybe?
Great episode, as always!
Glad to see Saul and Vick(y) heading into ground zero, partly because it means I was right but mostly because we might get some more clues about what caused the outbreak. Maybe they'll find the convoy that was supposed to be transporting ol' Ink to prison all trashed.
Everyone else has pretty much summed up my thoughts about Tanya's little freak out. She either has some sort of bite or scratch and is immune or she's having flashbacks to the Colony and Gatekeepers little physicals. My moneys on the bite theory though.
Well there's my initial two cents.
Good theory, but the Gatekeeper swings the other way I believe. Wasn't that established by Vicky? Then again, he might be a sadistic asshat regardless of gender, so still a valid option. Good thinkingQuote:
Originally Posted by HardKor
Yeah I was thinking more along the lines of anyone who didn't pass the physical got taken outside and shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luna Guardian
Something just occured to me. "Last Dying Breath" oxygen masks...and ground zero. Anyone see where i am going with these keywords?
I heard this too. Thought I was going crazy for a second. It sounds like Victor saying 6 o'clock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chogidog
Excellent episode!
Safe house! Camera backup if they fail! I LOVE it! CJ's learning to factor catastrophic failure into her plans. I bet she's recording what they say between each other too. Maybe she's layered on some equipment to detect various fields and gasses...I wonder if there's a destruct device to avoid their having to suffer if they are about to die.
I think it was Nick who said she was poor on execution. Maybe it was her belief in the safety of order that caught her out. Once the house was strong enough, once they had enough supplies or she had enough control over her people--they'd all be safe. She got to a level that felt safe and stopped. But really, when can you stop?
Poor Tanya. My impression of the military is that they are about the group over the individual. I was afraid they'd shoot her right then and there.
So the Vic line at the end was a total mistake, not anything to be looked further into?...i must've rewound that 5 times trying to figure out what he said...oh well, all for naught
Correct. Could have been an export glitch. It's his last line repeated...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoff4D
Well, I keep thinking it's strange the zombies let Skunkan get away.... but remember: they also let Hope get away when she fell out of the other tower (and was left blind).
Perhaps Tanya found a cure and used it on herself, Saul and even Hope. We all know they were not happy with Hope at the colony..... perhaps she was infected?
Maybe a long shot but there must be a reason for the zombies to leave such an easy "meal" like Skunkan and Hope....
First: Welcome!Quote:
Originally Posted by Leah
Second: I totally approve of you utilizing Skunkan. You rock! :D
Third: If I'm not mistaken, Sean found Hope quickly after her tumble from the window. So she wasn't alone for all that long.
Now....as to why exactly the zombies are leaving behind people like CJ and Skunkan.....uh......I got nothin'. Torture the living? It's weird because each encounter seems to have a different MO. Sometimes it's an all out assault, sometimes it's playing with their food, others it's a small scale assault, or being a P.I.M.P. and catching an arrow shot at your head....
So I was going through the Unanswered Questions and realized something that slippen my mind: In Chapter 23 - 1 Michael encounters Randy who has been turned and tried to take Tanya alive.
This is another time Tanya could have come in contact with the...infection?... They checked her eyes but still restrained her just to be safe as she had some bad wounds.
Correct. ****shuffles away.Quote:
Originally Posted by nikvoodoo
YAY! So we finally move the story out of reverse and start on some new material, the two main points being Tanya and GZ. So....
On Tanya's Freak-Out Session
Props to awkwardalex and bray who were the first in this thread to mention that idea that perhaps Tanya had been bitten, was somehow immune, and is avoiding having her bite inspected by the US Army dudes. At least three other people have mentioned this idea since then and probably several other lazy people will mention it after this (and claim it as their own), but anyway....
The only 'new' thing I can add concerning this is to remind everyone that Tanya mentioned feeling cold awhile back, and some of us were wondering if that meant anything. In light of recent events, I'd say that yes, it did mean something.
On Chinwe's Leadership Style
THE GOOD: No doubt, she is a masterful planner--she's got the bedrooms already stocked, the car packed, the scuba gear all tested out-- damn, if she was my wife, we'd have all the laundry ironed and folded, the closets organized by size, color, and season, the cereal boxes alphabetized, etc. This is truly an amazing quality, but...
THE BAD: ...she sucks as a leader because she can't trust anyone to do anything she doesn't have direct control over. She seems to be a wicked micro-manager, is used to using people 'under' her like pawns ("I want this done"), controls information and resources in order to hold power over people ("Don't worry about anything else"), and can be a bitch when she doesn't immediately get her way.
THE VERDICT: Chinwe would be a great logistics manager but can't the overall leader of an operation. She hasn't seemed to have learned her lesson from her failure at her tower's invasion, which was a human failure more than anything else. Just compare the results when both towers were faced with dire threats to their existence:
Michael's Tower: The group bonded together, sacrificing themselves and cooperating in order to keep the family alive and together.
CJ's Tower: The 'assembled individuals' splintered, each cutting and running to save his/her own ass, and were destroyed as a result.
I would keep Chinwe in change of material resources, but would definitely NOT let her be in charge of personnel. Somehow she never learned that soldiers win wars with their hearts and minds more than with bullets and supplies.
PREDICTION: Chinwe is going to continue to treat all the supplies as her own property, and try to treat Saul / Vic as her underlings. Saul won't go in for that shit, and will eventually blast her for her lack of trust.
On Ground Zero
They are going to find information there that will eventually lead them to develop a vaccine that can 'cure' the Z-disease. Season 4 will eventually end with them just starting on the long road to recovery, 'curing' surrounding zombies with tranquilizer darts filled with the vaccine (just pulled that last bit completely out of my ass but hey, it could happen O_o).
I'm Out Like Trout!
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Originally Posted by UndeadSweeper