Happy release Monday!
Speculate: Whose last dying breath is it????
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Happy release Monday!
Speculate: Whose last dying breath is it????
@7oodisdead i got my money on Crackpot: Randy:mad:
Longshot: Michael
Crackpot,
Pete, he even bottled it for his best customers
hmm.. if we are gonna start thinking of people not considered "dead" already (kalani, pippin,randy etc)..who has seemed to reach a resolution within their own minds? certainly not riley..she has yet to come to grips with the person she is/was..hmm..if we are going down a road of "fresh death" ...id go with tanya. most every character seems to still have a level of acceptance about who they are to develop before the big ban hammer from the sky comes down to take them
If that is the case then we'll need to get some answers from her regarding what she found from reading all the journals, and what she knows about the zombie behavior that closely resembles animals.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7oddisdead
you mean words uttered in her "last dying breath"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Adventureless_Hero
(i wish this wasnt so much fun)
AH is right on the money. At Fort Irwin, they do not have the hard copies. Tanya's scanning was inturupted by Randy and Scratch before she finished them and it is a bit of a cointoss if her or Michael had a copy of the work in progress on a jump drive or something.
wow..humor in the morning does not translate..
yes, all these things you two are bringing up..but. who else could be a likely candidate for a death? if we had to pick one from the ft irwin group she would be my first choice...the chills from last episode being a precursor to a bigger problem..just fleshing out that angle if you will..
Ghost-buster? I giggled
I smell a rat!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have to say the music/sounds in this chapter was so great, especially reliving the war again. excellent editing and brings back fond memories of the tower.
Yea, also seeing as the new cover art looks like a proton pack. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by UndeadSweeper
Damn, I hadn't realized how much i had missed hearing the other characters, esp Burt and Angel, until I heard them today.
Aw, man, Kalani. You're breaking my heart.
I have to say that I was convinced all along that Kalani was the rat and that the rat was the shooter. This is how lame I am, though -- as we got closer to the point of no return, I kept hoping against hope that he wasn't, and that he didn't. Kc did an amazing job of making Kalani sympathetic and his motivations clear. Good work, sad story. Good bye Kalani.
Alright first of all now hate Kalani for doing what he did but fully understand why he did it and sympathize...damn you KC for making me see both sides!
Second: I loved the little side comments during the reading especially Kelly's...and the ghostbusters line made me bust out my loud, obnoxious laugh.
Finally, as far as the title goes, this is obviously Kalani's last words but when I think "breath" and look at the cover art I can't help but think Saul and Victor might be heading into ground zero.
I was wrong too. I really did think, especially when Michael didn't jump into continuing the story, that Cpl. Puck was going to bust in and interrupt their finishing of the journal. Technically though, Kalani's journal was interrupted...we will never know what he meant to write at the very end. "Regardless of my actions, I..." -am sorry, -love you guys, -am on your side, is what I think he meant to say.
The music in this episode was fantastic. I also was amazed that you managed to skim through The War and Separate Dying Embers so quickly yet touched on all the main points in those episodes. And at last, I now have an answers as to how Kalani could be so adamant about leaving the tower when he knew full well the Mallers still had his daughter; he wanted the helicopters to get his daughter back. But before the helicopters came into play, what was he thinking? Did he want to run away and hope that his daughter would be okay if the Mallers assumed he was dead? Poor guy. It was a shitty situation all around. I just wish he had told the truth in the very beginning. If only he had know what type of people the Tower folk were, he would have seen that they would have helped him get Hannah back, even before Lizzy had been kidnapped.
Great episode. Oh, and so the Tower was on Spring street? I'll google that later. ;)
The ends doesn't justify the means.Quote:
Originally Posted by HardKor
It hard for me to go along with him since his plan is the only plan he consisted.
I don't think that they weight it on him too much since Lewis was also inform to why he need someone to lock-up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adventureless_Hero
I knew it was him. I knew it. What a jerk. I told my cousin who got me started on this podcast that it was Kalani. But I still can't believe he did all that. He outsmarted all of them. And I'm pretty sure Kalani is going to be alive, and that they picked him up when the tower was destroyed. I know he is with Scratch right now. Ugh. So frustrated.
When did Kalani go back to the Tower to hide the diary?
He was at LAX working on the first helicopter. Then he and Burt drove to the Tower to pick up Angel and Riley on the way to the Hospital, but there's no indication he ever went in. After the hospital Kalani flew back to the Tower, but only to drop off Angel, and Burt implied that they rushed away to avoid exposing the helicopter to the Mallers. Did Kalani somehow find a way to slip away to Bill's apartment? After that it was Golf Course and the Kamikaze attack on the fuel tanker.
YES! I love Monday!!!
Nice long episode, great to listen to except it didn't give me much fuel for theorizing. I was surprised we kept going with the Kalani back-story, but now that we have that loose end all nice and tied back in, I think we can kick the story out of reverse and move through the present.
Next episode I see trouble with the brass at Irwin and Saul / Victor / CJ coming up with a plan of action.
Probably use the room a lot after Bill was gone. His last entry must have been after they got the chopper first time? I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabbage Patch
I wondered about this too, but I suppose it isn't too difficult to imagine that when they dropped off Angel he could have had an opportunity to run down to Bill's apartment, or even when they went to pick up Angel and Riley. He could have said that he needed something crucial to the mission or something and just run up real quick like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabbage Patch
I'm wondering when and where he got the silenced pistol to shoot Pippin.
i had the whole kalani plot worked in my head at the end of chapter 24, besides his involvement with the other tower. But can anyone explain the cover art to me. im guessing by the gas mask, ground zero? but idk.
Probably from the gun bag that Bill hid. Because he would have gotten to it to get the gun to shoot the floor. Also we know Lock n Load had many type of weapons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adventureless_Hero
I'm hopeful that it's something we don't see coming. Ideally, I'd like to see Michael killed off. It would be a fantastic way to shake the very foundations of the show... Michael dies, Angel returns with Burt, and we find out that Kalani was thrown clear of the explosion, surviving with Skittles in an overrun city. As unlikely as that scenario is--considering Michael is recounting the story through the survivors' journals since episode one--it would be the direction I'd love to see it turn.
Not that I don't love Michael, because I certainly do. It just feels like the most erratic move and as such the most fun.
One interesting point was that one of Scratch's first questions was about whether or not there were any cops, and she was quite forceful about it. Does that mean that CJ's tower were cops rather then prision guards?
Hmm...first of all, great episode..tons of questions answered. The ending almost got to me..was really awesome to hear kalani telling his story..all the bits we wanted to hear.
But now I'm gonna sound like a hater
Part of me has to admit a slight feeling of disappointment at hearing the entire thing all laid out in front of us. Mainly the fact the most of the kalani is the rat theories were for the most part true...im certainly not upset by the writing of it...it really was quite awesome and I'm glad the rat storyline can (for the most part) be put to bed...its just, I dunno..i guess I secretly hoped for more, ya know?
End/hate
Still..really has been a great little flashback the last few episodes..this is great writing made greater by the voices put to it.. Big high fives to KC for writing it and Kevin for putting the perfect voice to someone as dynamic as kalani...because of that I can almost totally ignore the crackpot side of my mind and just enjoy this for what it is...art
I am wondering if Kalani was interrupted writing in his journal in chapter 22 part 3 around 4:45
Don't worry, 7odd. There's still lots of unanswered questions, still the Mallers to contend with, still Ink and Co. running wild... The story didn't start as a 'Rat Whodunit?' to begin with, right? I still think we're heading towards a larger showdown with Scratch, Gatekeeper, and Ink... and sometime here they have gotta finally figure out what the hell is going on with ground zero and the outbreak. Maybe the boys at Irwin will have info on the Z-genesis...Quote:
Part of me has to admit a slight feeling of disappointment at hearing the entire thing all laid out in front of us. Mainly the fact the most of the kalani is the rat theories were for the most part true...im certainly not upset by the writing of it...it really was quite awesome and I'm glad the rat storyline can (for the most part) be put to bed...its just, I dunno..i guess I secretly hoped for more, ya know?
I have a question raised by this episode, though, if anyone can help me out:
Q. If that asshole Bill just stole all the weapons out of spite, then why did he suddenly flip-flop and start fighting for our guys? Wouldn't he just start handing the weapons back out??? Can't figure that guy out...
Oh, and Kc:
Masterful job of editing with that sound-montage of the War & Aftermath... that was really cool to listen to with headphones!
If you guys don't win an Audie for your work then the APA sucks balls!
Lest you think I'm hiding I had a busy day.
Told you I'd eat my crow. And Those you picked Kalani you were right. gloat as much as you want.
Great episode and I'm very happy that the journal cut off. I like that we're still left with a mystery even after all the questions that were answered. As my latest position I stated that Riley left the roof at some point during Chapter 24. Kalani said she just left, but he's just proven how he's able to manipulate a timeline re: Datu. I will say I was happy that my explanation as to how Kalani could be in two places at once ended up coming to pass. Manipulate the situation to make someone else vouch for you.
Poor Datu never saw it coming. Wonder how angry he will be about being used like that.
I'm so glad that solution is out of the way because as I've said before, I just didn't care that much. I was interested to hear there was a reason for the shot fired from the tower. Interesting also that the Durai had someone fire from the top of the tower. Guess it was to present a motive other than being complete Bstrds for attacking the tower. It might help our team to think that surrendering to the Maller's was an viable option instead of a disastrous mistake.
I Wonder why Scratch and Latch are so scared of Durai?
Why someone so good at manipulation can only see to steal the accomplishments of others rather than creating their own?
the thing that got me is that even after Kalani was rescued by Angel and Riley at the arena. He had an attitude about the people that rescued him. Yea, I guess that you might too if the first people that rescued you was Scratch and Latch. But, still couldn't he see that these people where different than the mallers. I guess you would do anything to keep your daughter safe in the end. Even betray the people that would more likely be the ones that actually could help you get your daughter back. It was a good episode loved the 30 mins even though it felt like it was over in 5. So, now where do we go from here? Will, Saul and Victor find a radio and try to reach the base? Or will they find where the mallers are hiding now and find Angel and Burt? Will Micheal and the gang hijack one of the helicopters to try and go back to find their friends? stay tuned on the same zombie channel, the same zombie time. (60s reference to batman)