Victor an insurance salesman? Ah, ah, a bullshneeze

No evidence, just a gut feeling. Maybe he was part of a protection racket for the drug lords. Like the redemption of Han solo in the star wars. I do not think an insurance salesman would hrmph (useless) so sarcastically if someone (Pippin) said they were a sales man.

I am not sure if he said "a salesman" or "ah, salesman". When he is met with the same treatment as he gave Pippin, he sure was quick to say he did other things too.

On an aside Rose McGowan is sooo hot and my stomach is much weaker than it was. The blood and wound special effects make me Ill. I guess I will not worry about missing something while reading this site.lol

in my continuing effort to be the "yang" to your "Ying"...how about this one.

I pasteurize milk for a living...but I consider myself an artist first. Perhaps victor has a similar situation going on. Selling insurance by day and say...private eye by night. That could also explain his disdain for pippins salesman role...he's surrounded by that type all day and see's how useless they are in the field...kind of a superiority complex of sorts.

I would think that unless your previous job was a skill that could be useful, what difference does it make what you once did.

All I am saying is, as a Tax Accountant, my current occupation means jack in the zombie apocalypse. So if I was him I would come up with a better lie than insurance salesman/salesman. Actually a drug load would be better when it comes to survival, better access to weapons and other resources.

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Originally Posted by sailorangel59

All I am saying is, as a Tax Accountant, my current occupation means jack in the zombie apocalypse. So if I was him I would come up with a better lie than insurance salesman/salesman. Actually a drug load would be better when it comes to survival, better access to weapons and other resources.

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Perhaps. But when you think of it you as a tax accountant means you have a good head on your shoulders. Not to stereotype, but I'd imagine most criminals would gravitate to worldly possessions at the fall of civilization and end up being caught off guard pillaging vs preparing. Society is no longer standing in the way, so go for broke!

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Originally Posted by Arthur LaMarche

No evidence, just a gut feeling. Maybe he was part of a protection racket for the drug lords. Like the redemption of Han solo in the star wars. I do not think an insurance salesman would hrmph (useless) so sarcastically if someone (Pippin) said they were a sales man.

I am not sure if he said "a salesman" or "ah, salesman". When he is met with the same treatment as he gave Pippin, he sure was quick to say he did other things too.

On an aside Rose McGowan is sooo hot and my stomach is much weaker than it was. The blood and wound special effects make me Ill. I guess I will not worry about missing something while reading this site.lol

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this is the greatest title. of all time.

Gentlemen,.....I want a clean fight,.....no hitting below the belt!

I find the 'insurance salesman' job very convincing. He's calm, cool and collected, the only time I didn't like him is when he was bickering with Saul and threatening to ditch him. Just a little too 'Grumpy Old Men' for my tastes.

Look at it this way, he has to sell people on purchasing a kind of bull sneeze idea (not that it doesn't help from time to time), but now he's been able to survive through one extremly militant group and one community-initiated group. I'm pretty sure he knows how to play to peoples' follies quite efficiently, he knows how to fire a gun effectively (that's more than we can say about some people) and that comes from a little natural talent and/or spending a good amount of time at a range.

I don't know, maybe he was actually paranoid about the zombie apocalypse and was prepared to weather hell, but hell hit harder than anyone expected and he just was caught up in the group sweep that we know as the Colony.

Or maybe he's Spider-Man.

i think victor is CIA but theres no evidence in the WA to support that

I still think Victor has a past twist to be revealed As Nikvoodoo said on wnd 54 (where are you?) vic is always around shady dealings. Except, I believe his call about not revealing Angels death at this very moment is the right one, it ha to come out. Saul is usually the bull in the china shop, but his let's cut the bullshneese with CJ was the right call and must be applied to all

Season 4 has to be as much about Mea Culpa as it is taking the fight to he biters.

Oh, and I thought it would have been much funnier if the dude ( Max? ) told Vic he smelled him rather than saw him at the water truck. It would have been a very nice plot twist and classic KC to turn a strength ( against zombies ) to a weakness ( against humans ) and a seemingly trivial item that ties back to past events.

Perhaps Victor was a fence and dealt with stolen weapons. I would say he could still claim to be an "insurance salesman" and not technically be lying.

Can't keep this back any more and do not know if this was speculated in another place.

I think Vic was in on the killing of Sean. He is tortured by that guilt when we first meet him. He did not come clean on that point because, well what's the point. It becomes harder to break that silence and the lie of omission is stuck to. Now, he is really in a bind because he is back with the Colony. Ugh. And with Tanya and CJ. Double Ugh.

I think Victor is so ashamed of his past that he just won't come clean, but it is what helped him to survive. Victor was a GASP! LIFE INSURANCE SALESMAN! He spends his whole day convincing people that they might die while betting that they will live. Most importantly a good Life Insurance Salesman says "What IF..."

For example a young single guy says he doesn't need life insurance now its just a waste of money. Victor swoops in with a evil gleam in his eye "What if you die in a freak skydiving accident? Your parents will be devestated and then they discover that THEY have to pay for the funeral because YOU were not considerate enought to buy life insurance. The young man THINKS he has won when he says that he has enough money in savings to pay for his own funeral. Victor goes for the kill "WHAT IF you wait to get life insurance until you are married and your wife is pregnent? WHAT IF the physical for the insurance discovers you have cancer and denies you insurance. You will leave you wife and a child to live in poverty beause you didn't buy life insurance now when it is cheap? What kind of woman would even marry a man as inconsiderate as you?

Always thinking of the "WHAT IF" is what has kept Victor one step ahead of the zombies, and hey Victor is no saint he is willing to sleep with a Lawyer!

I think that Victor was smart enough to see that things were better with Sean around. Killing Sean to put Gatekeeper in charge is high risk with a low chance success. I don't think that Victor actually believed that things would be better under Gatekeeper

Sean was killed during the same "wave" attack that Victor spent in the shelter with Michael, Pegs and Kelly. If Victor had any reason to feel guilty it's because he knew the life insurance policy he sold Sean was worthless.

Really, ok. I have not gone back to relisten to this. I think I remember some background radio chatter. Did you pick it up by recognizing his voice?

Ok, I hear they got Sean's team... Forgot about that. My gut is still soured. Vic and Fernando were undercover and not doing much in the wave of scavenging. Could be coincidence. But, in we're alive Ville, bad luck is often conspiratorial and orchestrated.

Ok, we hear gatekeeper and Bixby talking in font of Pegs about the killing of Sean. I just relistened to part 3 of the catalyst. Pegs tells Kelly and Victor that they are going to kill Marcus. She says nothing about Sean. Saul has no real chance to talk about it with Pegs before he bolts the tower on his Lizzy-Quest. So, any info he has comes from Victor.

So, it seems like Victor at least knew that Sean was setup. Was he active in the process or just another lie of omission?

So, why is Victor so keen on keeping Angel's execution so hush hush? I figure it is because he saw the show down with Scratch and Durai. If he is familiar with the family he will know the whole blood feud will start back up again if another member of the family was to find out.

How well could he get to know the members of the tower in the what, 72 hours or less he is there? One odd behavior is his joke about Burt getting further with Riley than Angel ever had. Almost as if he knows some secrets about her and who goes off the deep end with Angel's execution? Riley.