Chapter 24 discussion- "The Harder They Fall"

So.....that happened....!!

First Post!

Great Job from KC & Crew, I can't wait until the next season starts.

The sound effects were fantastic and the pacing was incredible. What a turn of events!

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Originally Posted by nikvoodoo

So.....that happened....!!

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No. It can't have happened. No way.

So, the season finale was considered Chap 24?

its didnt happen theres no way

wow..we all forgot about this thing in all the exitement...

Sorry, gd.....totally.happened. Can someone tell me if beez cried on the kamakazi mission kalani went on?

amazing epp it worked fine for me i was worried my internet would die or something but i got it and i am awaiting to download it from itunes to see what i missed

I think everyone, almost, shed a tear for Kalani ;_;

This chapter has got to be the most emotional one so far. One minute I was on the edge of my seat and then the next I was crying.

Beez said that he cried when Kevin was on the phone.

I'm in denial.

the hole episode i was on the edge of my seat

I <3 Scratch SO FUCKING MUCH. The Tower should never have a day off >=]

I cried... I yelled I screamed.. now I'm going into withdrawls.. how long till it comes back??

Okay, does anyone know who Hannah is? Since Kalani said 'someone' was his Hannah, so that means Hannah wasn't his but... someone... who I don't remember?
Anyway, this was an amazing chapter. I can't wait for a new one. And to find out who is alive who is dead and everything. *-*

hannah was the red head that was on the golf corse wasnt it

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Originally Posted by cerealkiller

Okay, does anyone know who Hannah is? Since Kalani said 'someone' was his Hannah, so that means Hannah wasn't his but... someone... who I don't remember?
Anyway, this was an amazing chapter. I can't wait for a new one. And to find out who is alive who is dead and everything. *-*

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Yeah I think andrew_huber is right. I think he had nothing to live for after that...do you think he might have had something with the mallers? Or was he unaware of her capture?

I wish I knew who was really really dead

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Originally Posted by andrew_huber

hannah was the red head that was on the golf corse wasnt it

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Originally Posted by Kn1ckerb0cker33

Yeah I think andrew_huber is right. I think he had nothing to live for after that...do you think he might have had something with the mallers? Or was he unaware of her capture?

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Did they say her name was Hannah or is that just guessing? I must have missed it. xD I just don't get what the 'She was my Hannah' meant. x__x It's bugging me.
If that girl was Hannah, then he probably was working for the Mallers, and then could have stopped since he was helping them, and so they killed the girl cause they found out he stopped working for them.
But then again, did Kalani come into the picture AFTER the traitor was already found out, as in that there was one? I'm planning on re-listening since it's been a while. xD

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Originally Posted by cerealkiller

Did they say her name was Hannah or is that just guessing? I must have missed it. xD I just don't get what the 'She was my Hannah' meant. x__x It's bugging me.

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Well I can only assume Hannah was either his wife, girlfriend or daughter.

OH AND I thought Lizzy was pregnant from the first throwing up. xD She has to be pregnant, or I'll be sooo disappointed. Lizzy and Saul are the most adorable thing ever. <3

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Originally Posted by cerealkiller

OH AND I thought Lizzy was pregnant from the first throwing up. xD She has to be pregnant, or I'll be sooo disappointed. Lizzy and Saul are the most adorable thing ever. <3

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Not just that, but Saul's survival is now iffy so if he IS dead she'll have to be pregnant as a way to keep his memory intact. It's only right. lol

Oh My Pinstriped Fiend! Greatest Episode and was only complimented by the entire chapter being released at once. Saul and Victor, my feed cut out shortly after they left the hummer, are missing. Kalani went out in a blaze of heroism. Angel was blown off the top of the tower. The tower was demolished. Burt fell off before the second building. Will we find out who hannah is. Is Durai losing control of the Mallers. Is Scratch losing her second in command status. What is in Kalani's Journal. Is the rat even alive now. Lizzy is still captured. So many things are up in the air, even the chopper.

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Originally Posted by cerealkiller

OH AND I thought Lizzy was pregnant from the first throwing up. xD She has to be pregnant, or I'll be sooo disappointed. Lizzy and Saul are the most adorable thing ever. <3

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when would they have had time cuz when saul was shot he was in like a coma like state most of the time

Well done to the whole cast and crew for a great episode.

Soo many new questions. Other than the whole who's dead and who's alive, I'm intriugued about what Angel found in Bill's desk; judging by Angel's response I think it was more than just the journal and now Scratch has "it"

So while listening to the post-show after Burt said his quote I feel like if he made a ringtone it should be him singing "ring ring ring ring, banana phone!"

yeah? eh, eh??

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Originally Posted by andrew_huber

when would they have had time cuz when saul was shot he was in like a coma like state most of the time

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Well, they could have before that or something. It wouldn't have exactly been in the podcast... Morning sickness begins around 4 or 6 weeks after getting pregnant.
Which is a whole month or so before Lizzy first threw up so, who knows when it could have happened.
I think her saying she has 2 of the people from the Tower just strengthens all the other signs; like the throwing up and Scratch being so protective of her. Cause I don't think the 2. person would just be some random unnamed person from the tower that no one noticed missing...
So the second could be the unborn baby.:o

So I think Angel may still be alive just because if Burt is the old man then it seems like the mallers were searching the area nearby where they found Burt. Both were pretty close to each other when they went down. But that's just assuming and it would be a stretch to have Angel survive a crumbling building. Too bad angel put the journal in Hope's backpack that might have been a good reason for him to stick around.

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Originally Posted by Nick_89

So I think Angel may still be alive just because if Burt is the old man then it seems like the mallers were searching the area nearby where they found Burt. Both were pretty close to each other when they went down. But that's just assuming and it would be a stretch to have Angel survive a crumbling building. Too bad angel put the journal in Hope's backpack that might have been a good reason for him to stick around.

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There were survivors in the rubble of the world trade center. Its very possible angel could survive the tower falling around him. Burt surviving I have a much harder time believing.

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Originally Posted by nikvoodoo

There were survivors in the rubble of the world trade center. Its very possible angel could survive the tower falling around him. Burt surviving I have a much harder time believing.

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True enough that's why I think he may still be alive but I'll wait and see. It would make sense to be Angel as he was the only character near the rubble of the building that wasn't an unnamed character. Saul and Victor I think were farther away from the rubble and Saul wasn't knocked unconscious.

I think as we learnt from when we thought Durai was dead, that we should assume that everyone is alive until KC says that they are dead. Except Kalani.

Yeh I think Burt is dead. He would have fell into the Burning tanker, possibly.

If Lizzy isn't pregnant, then maybe the old man could be someone claiming to be from the tower, like Angel initially thought,

I think Angel made it though, because he is most likely to be who Scratch was looking for,

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Originally Posted by nikvoodoo

There were survivors in the rubble of the world trade center. Its very possible angel could survive the tower falling around him. Burt surviving I have a much harder time believing.

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Well Burt still had the other side of the rope to hold on, or something, so it could have lessened the fall. Plus in the epilogue Scratch said, when they found someone, 'Put him with the old man.' and the only old man worth mentioning and that is BAMF enough to survive a zombie apocalypse, is Burt - in my opinion. And she also said, for the person they found, that she got what she wanted now. Which could mean that that was Angel, since him and Scratch seem to have a 'history' that he keeps denying and she keeps reminding him off. It's all just jzucgcghdbsfjkceo. It's such a long wait for a new chapter. D:

I got thrown off with Tonya somehow going from being unconscious and handcuffed to a bed, due to being scratched by a zombie (maybe)--to all of a sudden being at the chopper and tending Riley. I think it will be nice to see a split story between the "chopper" crew and the "ground" crew. It gives KC a lot more room to work with, especially seeing where the chopper lands, and how they may, or may not, attempt a rescue. KC just flipped the script and is allowing for far more uncertainty and less predictability. Kudos!

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Originally Posted by cupcakezombie

I think as we learnt from when we thought Durai was dead, that we should assume that everyone is alive until KC says that they are dead. Except Kalani.

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who honestly thoughr durai was dead?

Explain how you can fall approximately 100 feet while prone and survive? (remember he had a harness, he should have been falling with his back to the ground)

I think Angel was on TV, because early in season 1 chapter 1 ep 2 I think, Datu said he looked familiar too and he replied exactly the same as with scratch.

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Originally Posted by nikvoodoo

who honestly thoughr durai was dead?

Explain how you can fall approximately 100 feet while prone and survive? (remember he had a harness, he should have been falling with his back to the ground)

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He could be like Abe Simpson. "I fell 8000 feet onto a pile of jagged rocks. Of course people were tougher in those days. I was jitterbugging that very night!"

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Originally Posted by daredevil

I think Angel was on TV, because early in season 1 chapter 1 ep 2 I think, Datu said he looked familiar too and he replied exactly the same as with scratch.

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Datu saw Angel when at the tower visiting Cindy, his girlfriend. KC confirmed that.

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Originally Posted by daredevil

I think Angel was on TV, because early in season 1 chapter 1 ep 2 I think, Datu said he looked familiar too and he replied exactly the same as with scratch.

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Datu saw angel in the building because of cindy living there. thats why he recognized angel.