And now in the words of my uncle I say unto you: allez zombie!!!
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And now in the words of my uncle I say unto you: allez zombie!!!
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That was awesome! Won't say too much cause it seems like I am VERY early getting started on this. :)
Good episode! I'll let it simmer though. We're about 4 or 5 hours too early. =P
Awesome episode disproved allot of theories and made some stronger.
Awesome episode. They did pretty much what I was starting to think they would (get someone to take the fall to smoke out the real shooter) and I guess we got an answer on the chopper, surely they can work out which one it is now and we know who will be the other pilot.
So waht is special about LA? I'm guessing the "Secret Zombie Lab" theory is getting stronger.
Isn't it always nice to hear when a show finally aligns itself to things you've been saying for months? (Like who the extra pilot will be, and things of that nature?). Tanya gets multiple awards this episode because she's the one who's setting us up long term for things that are going to happen once things get settled down. Tanya also gets the quote of the episode: "You're asking me? Its your building!"
Hell I'm just glad Mikey and not leader alligned with what I was thinking they would do with regards to catching the shooter after I listened to WND. Nice to see that the storyline is still progressing around the shooter storyline. Not that I thought it wouldn't but we've all seen shows get bogged down around plot twists.
Also afte this episode I am now on the side of the shooter is the rat. It wouldn't have been so completely one-sided in favour of shooter=rat (Mikey and not leader's discussion) if that wasn't the case.
Okay. I don't know what I think about the shooter and the rat problem anymore. Before I didn't think the shooter was the rat, because I thought he/she was too much of a pansey to shoot anyone. But now I'm not so sure, based on Michael and Angel's discussion. I'm still leaning towards the rat is too scared to be the shooter, because he/she went all stealthy about the whole situation. But I'm on the fence now, so I guess I'll just have to wait and see what happens next.
And is anyone else kinda getting mad that nothing is being said about Lizzy? Maybe she'll arrive at the tower later with Brick and Samantha (a theory I had) and tell her story of how she escaped. But it's seriously driving me coconuts not knowing if she's okay.
Okay so right off the bat. I see that Steven wasn't even mentioned. A part of me says that anyone with a grudge against pippin should be questioned, including Kelly And angel, now michel angel and Tanya were in the same place and we know where they were, we also can theorize that it can't be reily or pegs, reilly because of the smell that hope would have picked up on, and pegs because she never had a problem with pippin and probably couldn't bear to kill another person even if it was to protect the tower. Now Luis may be a person of intrest because he smelled of gas, now I don't know about you but when I fill up my lawn mower I don't smell like gas. However I doubt that he killed pippin and ran up stairs to pour gas on his hands and "fill the generator" but this is the first tme we have heard abou him. I still think it is Steven simply for his jack ass move of wanting to kick Lizzie out, sorry every person counts in these situations but Steven doesn't see things like that. He would rather sit in his room and not do shit. Kalani is a valid option because we know nothing about him, but I doubt he is the rat at all because of his not being at the tower for the war and we have no clue how long he was at the rink so slim to no chance on kalani. Datu is...no. I think whoever did it was looming out for the tower and not for himself but I do think it was the rat who did it.
I did find this episode to be more then exceptional as always. However I don't see why no one will get in the helicopter pegs, I think she could do it, and do it well.
I didn't know why they were making such a big deal either. Perhaps if we were still in the beginning and she was still a weak character, I would understand their concern. But I think she has done plenty to prove herself. Not only has she fought bravely, but she has shown herself to be pretty clever. I think she is completely capable of flying the chopper, with Kalani's training, of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeyd2tall
Definitly! and i think leedo and everyone else are gonna have a cow when they find out what type the helicopter was XD
It was a great episode. Nice to see the theories discussed by the characters themselves. I just wish it had gone longer! It seemed like it finished before I even noticed!
No offense KC, but having the fall guy being some random dude we never heard of felt like a bit of a cop-out. I still liked the episode as a whole though.
Yeah it does seem that KC is starting to short us in time but I like what he is doing
Now now people! KC hasn't failed us yet, don't say he is shorting us for having a fall guy. As Angel said, if they didn't have anyone they would have a "red scare" on their hands in the tower. And if you know what the red scare was, then you know that it would just be messy for the tower. Whether everything works out in the end or not, it is still going to be a good story, but KC knows the direction he is going, so I'm sure this is just a stepping stone that WILL work out in the end.
I was just saying the episode is to short :3 I like the "hey kid wanna help us out" way he has it I like that we are getting more characters
My problem wasn't the concept of a fall guy, but it being a nobody.Quote:
Originally Posted by Creem_Filling
Mikey: it's just a fall guy, they need a guy who they really don't know, A: just in case he is the one they have him on one place, B: it still leaves everyone we know as a suspect, C: the killer comes back to the scene o the crime, Luis is truthfully just bait.
Having Lewis (correct spelling per the wiki) be the fall guy is a good omen for those who desire big bang for their buck in the revealing of the rat. By having a patsy be a nobody, it opens up more possibilities that the rat is one of our main characters and not Steven...who is a nobody himself.
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Originally Posted by nikvoodoo
I think old Stevie is still a contender, purely because he wasn't even mentioned in this episode. He's not so much of a nobody as this Lewis guy, he certainly has form.
I'm going to have a good listen again later. But for now, I can't see why Burt is so against Pegs being the second pilot.
To tell you the truth though, with this episode, the idea that Kelly might be the traitor seems stronger than ever. She would be sneaky enough to trip the alarm and kill him and not hope. Also she does seem like the kind of person with enough balls to do it. Now more than ever. AND she was the only one with a motive before to actually leave the tower. However, her with the Mallers? kinda iffy since they probably wouldn't like her too much, who knows how many of them where in prison thanks to her?
Jeebogs: Burt is against it because she is a easily scared little girl that doesn't work well under preassure, she while yea is smart, is not exactly pilot material.
Mama: you are right but in part 1, pippin says "it's you!" in a shocked manner, number 1 if in fact Kelly killed him why would he say it like that I would have said "oh it's just you" followed by a sigh of relief, so I think it is not impossible to place her there, but then again angel is a viable option too, he knows the wires just like everybody else, also he got very loud more then he should have, freaking out more then Michel and hope, like has was trying to rule himself out.
Let me rephrase Steven: he's a more significant nobody than the other nobodies...if that makes any sense.
My view of Steven has always been that of a plot device. He's the one who initiated the argument that forced Lizzy into her predicament and his refusal put a man of action in Angel in the guard room. I understand how that looks like he's guilty, but I really think he's just a way to get the story to move along for our main players.
Mmmmm, interesting, are you pointing out a future plot point? Pegs flying the second chopper and gets all flustered, possibly crashing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dameon1213
I think she's come a long way since the start and needs the benefit of the doubt. All that she's been through with Michael in the colony (and the journey there) proved she's tougher than originally thought.
Surely Kalani is still in the frame for this, he walks out of the door from Michael and Tanya, then, say, enough time to walk down to the guard room goes by and then we hear the alarm. Pop a cap in Pippen's ass, then off with Datu.
listened to the Episode but im a bit confused is it Reily or Peggs that is scared of heights?
Kalani is still a valid player but his chances of being the rat are slim to none, I doubt that he was ever with the mallers, I think that the rat has to have come in when the sign was up, because that is when they stopped letting people in.
I think it is pegs who is scared......I get it now!
I still think Riley is a possibility for the rat. She seemed off in this episode, even more so that in the last couple. Her panic reaction felt like an overreaction to me. Like she was trying to sell everyone on the idea that she was as surprised by the shooting as everyone else. And I know Hope didn't smell the booze, but Michael and Angel did leave a little room for her to still be the shooter when they were trying to settle on a patsy.
Also, I'm glad Hope made it. I was sure she was a goner.
People don't quit smoking and change their lives if a person they don't care about. It can't be her she is a lesbian not a traitor
The two aren't mutually exclusive. I still subscribe to the "Mallers have a hostage" theory. And if that's the case anyone could have a motive to be the traitor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dameon1213
First off, great episode. I guess the identity of the rat is yet to be revealed, but at least we can remove Michael, Angel, Tanya, Datu, Kalani, Burt, Saul, Pippin and Hope from the list of would be assassins. However, Victor, Riley, Kelly and Lewis (who probably isn't involved) are now on the hot seat in terms of who could be the possible (former) rat/assassin.
I'm glad that it had been established in the episode that the traitor could now be loyal to the tower (as said by Michael), although whether or not they could be trusted is another matter and if their plan is to create chaos and distrust within the Tower to make it easier to attack (as said by Angel).
Oh and 2 points to myself and some other members for predicting that...
1. The radio was shot (which was why Burt and Saul weren't able to contact them at the end of Chapter 22 (Part 1 of 3)
2. The helicopter was a S-61R/CH-3C/EHH-3E (a.k.a Jolly Green Giant)
On another note, I'm beginning to suspect that if the rat/assassin is in fact now loyal to the tower but used to be the traitor, I suspect that Kelly might be rat at this point. But who knows...aside from KC
Riley is the one scared of heights. And most of the tower was not there to witness Pegs getting stronger in her mission to the colony. Therefore mistrust still ensues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl R-tistik Springer
Well I'm confused as hell about who the rat/shooter/traitor is but this episode does help us rule out a few people at least in some of the incidents. Pegs and Kalani being pilots in their travel plans is no real shocker. We knew it was going to eventually come to that since before the War in Season 1. I don't like the idea of Michael cooking up a lie to get everyone to relax. Marcus did the same thing and that didn't work out so well for him. I don't feel that the incident was worth cooking up a grand scheme since so many more things can go wrong. If it all comes to light people may lose trust in Michael and/or Angel.
kelly is not the rat riley is not the rat so victor and lewis well i dont think these four are the rat just saying its going to be the dark horse who is reveiled plus these people wouldnt murder another person no matter what it would be a huge hole in the veiwers perpective on the charchtersQuote:
Originally Posted by Kn1ckerb0cker33