Final chapter part for 37.
If you haven't done so make sure you wish many happy returns to the new Mr. And Mrs. Wayland!
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Final chapter part for 37.
If you haven't done so make sure you wish many happy returns to the new Mr. And Mrs. Wayland!
Michael will flip out. Rilley will find out and either go ballistic and lash out. Or will turn into the incredible hulk and destroy us all.
Hello and many blessings to Mr. And Mrs. Wayland!
Werd, congrats to the newly weds.
Riley freaks, they end up trying to sedate her and she punches Tanya in the mouth causing her to cut her hand. Then Riley turn b/c immune doesnt mean you can't be a carrier..
In all reality. Ooioooh crap. Balance of power, what did CJ say... Ummm. "Information is too valuable". So information is power. Finding out about Angel is just the start of the information flow. I feel confident in predicting the flow will go a couple directions, perhaps learning something we didn't know before *coughmichealsarmcough* in part 3.
Congratulations to the happy couple! May the saddest days of your future be no worse than the happiest day of your past.
I can't WAIT!!!!! Bring it on KC.. Ready for Mikey to open up some Whoop Ass...
As a married man, I can't help but to chuckle at the idea that KC's & Blair's wedding gives new meaning to the chapter title: The Balance of Power.
Cheers! :yay::excited::melt:
Hello everyone from my Spanish exile! I miss you all A LOT. I will have to wait until next monday to download the third part of chapter 37.
@Liam: In advance, I am on this particular island
Sean called CJ "The Queen" in front of Kalani. We see that personality again. She may be able to plan, but she is no leader.
Hello everyone from my Spanish exile! I miss you all A LOT. I will have to wait until next monday to download the third part of chapter 37.
@Liam: In advance, I am on this particular island - Mallorca, please do not facepalm me. :-)
Riley vs Scratch is going to be amazing. That's pretty much the only thought I come away with at the moment. Time to go listen to it again!
Wow.....great episode !
some unexpected stuff here for sure....changes my thoughts of how Scratch will meet her end...also wondering if the group is going to separate now... gotta listen to it again before i get in-depth here.....
and congrats to the newly weds !
And of course, best wishes to the newly weds!
Not a filler eps! Man, that was some heavy stuff. I don't think Micheal and the crew will be staying. It probably going to be either all of us or none of us. They probably even lose their medical staff.
I think we'll see some of the cast splitting up given recent developments.
It seems to be a given that Michael will follow Saul. There doesn't seem to be much reason for him to stay given CJ's leadership position.
I'm inclined to say Tanya would stay at the colony given the number of people that need her help. She doesn't seem to be the type to turn her back if someone is in need. However there is a BIG BUT that I need to add. If Saul has to leave, Lizzy is going to leave. I can't imagine Tanya would turn her back on her future grandbaby. Perhaps she'll leave for a while to help with the delivery then return to the colony.
Pegs will stay. What reason would she have to follow Saul and Michael?
Kelly will probably stay, too. She already left Michael once for greener pastures so why would she follow him this time? Doesn't seem likely to me.
Micheal and his army crews are going, that may be the cause of the cover art? They taking the copter and could cause a big issue.
Under CJ, Pegs will probably never get a change to go after Scarface. And Burt is going too.
And don't think Kelly doesn't have any good memory of the colony, but I can't remember she apart of the original traveling group of the colony.
...Just...WOW!
I'm just wondering if this is the last we're going to se to CJ if all the main characters go to Dunbar... Maybe they return later only to find the colony in ruins or something. I actually wouldn't mind that. I can't see why we need her anymore (well, she still haven't given them the code for her safe containing all her notes... but they'll probably just BOOM the Lock or something...).
Of course the big question right now is... Did Michael say yes? I fear it, but... GRR, I don't know. Does he even know she just kicked out Saul and Victor? I don't think he does, and therefore he could just say yes. He might leave as soon as he finds out what she did... But well.
In either way the NeXT chapters are going to be awesome! :D
"you fucking crippled me"?! Seriously? CJ is officially my new most hated character.
I'd love to see how the Colons (not a typo) will react to their only doctor leaving because CJ kicked Saul out of the Colony.
I do not see Michael and the rest staying behind while Saul and Victor get the boot. I once liked CJ now I dislike her.. She is a Queen B.. I foresee them leaving her and the Colony behind and take over Dunbar. Burt and Riley will go on a Scratch hunt. But part of me would like to see Dunbar and The New Colony work together for the common good.. Pegs and Kelly have a bad taste of the Colony and since CJ sounds like the New Marcus/GateKeeper they will probably not stay. I can see Tonya leaving. She will not leave Saul. But we could all be surprised and they not make a stink out of leaving and make it like they are going to setup a second safe house at Dunbar to ship any survivors and supplies down to the Colony and to carry on the experiments with the cracks and ground zero area..
Wow best episode so far! I didn't expected CJ to kick out Saul and Victor! I wonder who will go with them to the Dunbar outpost.. As it is looking now we get three storylines
1 - CJ, Colony, Michael and his Soldiers VS Ink (The big picture), since they don't really care about the Mallers and Scratch (as long as they stay out).
2 - Riley/ Burt Super Tag team Vs Sratch/ Maller leftovers and will go Guerrilla style
3 - Saul and Victor going to play on the playstation at Dunbar and just sit on there asses... Okay havent figure thit out yet, maybe like Merlin above said they will go carry on experiments and find a cure (maybe eventually working together with CJ and Michael) with help of Tanya, Lizzy??
Hi there,
I need to rant a bit ...
Sorry, NO! You had a bloody death-match of awesome with the coolest hate-bride on the show, you were close to death, cried out loudly in pain, got your leg cut off ... And only a few days later you are running around, yelling orders, doin' shit and real shit like Captain Ahab on steroids? Sorry ... my suspense of disbelief is really hard challenged ... Such a serious medical treatment takes its toll - and that's a little more than just playing out the disappointment about Saul and Victor. And no: being "democratically" voted to become the new leader in town does not come close to pharmaceuticals to allow you to run around like you are used to having your leg like years ago ...
But alas ...
I see the point and the value for the new trouble within humanity within the story and stuff. So yes, I go with it, as if I had any choice. But I am not happy with it. Except for the zombs the WA show was heavily based on reasonable developments and treatment of situations. But the whole CJ-madical care and the few days ever since with the crazy Tina Turner Thudnerdome Overlordess ... Ah, a heavy burden for me ...
I needed to write this down in order to get rid of shit. All the other things on #37-3 were awesome. I really hoped that things would turn in favor of the humans. But humans do what they are infamous for: they are destructive any time possible. So: here we go. Thinks are crippling, NO, FALLING apart at the speed of light ... And most things make a lot of sense. I really wonder what Michael's gonna do when he learns about Saul and Victor leaving; and I wonder what his reaction will be about Riley and Burt; but maybe Riley and Burt will start deceiving people and prepare their own plans hidden from the view of others; and what with Tanya? I am so sorry about her. Her situation is bad. She is right in the middle between several groups of people. What will happen when she learns about Saul leaving her again? And how openly will she include Michael in things from now on?
http://youtu.be/jRNAmUOuY3c
No, just kidding! Enjoy your trip. Some places might be not as bad as rumors are. ;)
Best wishes!
Liam
Listened 3 times now. So much to digest and directions this could go.
Oh, I would be remiss if I did not have my serving of Crow. I heard a crow at Angel's grave site just before Riley sharts talking about "her".
Lets see..... First i'm thinking after all this, Michael and the rest will be pissed about CJ's decisions and decide to leave for Dunbar soon..but CJ will probably be pissed that they are all leaving, so it might cause some serious issues there.... Anyway, they leave/get out with bad blood once against between the Colony and Michael and gang.....
On the other hand, it might work out well, and they setup a "military" base at Dunbar and keep good relations with the colony for medical and everything for Lizzy and such. Also with all the firepower and supplies, safe houses and everything else that CJ had setup, it would probably prove to be great for setting up recon on the zombies.
As for Riley....I see her and Burt possibly setting off on their own to hunt down Scratch. Because i dont see michael going along with it...They both have major debts to settle...not sure how thats gonna turn out...I think we will lose one of the two to Scratch's blade.
And for a random twist.....What are the chances of a CJ/Michael relationship brewing if things work out with the Saul/Victor deal? They both are similar in the fact that they feel they need to step up and take the lead, both very good at planning things out, both somewhat hot headed...if things work out good with a Dunbar setup, Michael leading it, and CJ leading the colony.....I dunno... with the Pegs thing not working, i see ichael reaching out to someone...woud be interesting if that person was CJ...
But either way, i think its obvious that it will end up CJ colony leader and Michael Dunbar Leader... Hence the "Balance of Power"
You are absolutely right! CJ just had her Flower Pot Moment with me. "I never had anyone go from the top of my list to the bottom so fast." - Michael Cross, Rules and Regulations
She has a quick tongue and used Napoleon"s (?) Divide and Conquer tactic to secure power. The Colonists, being bitter Grudge Masters, still hold Michael as the cause of their demise and CJ as their savior took sides, took a vote and gave power.
1) Cj's first opponent to subjugate was Tanya; IN HER OWN HOUSE. THE HOSPITAL! She then convinces Tanya to come to her side (Pending her kind treatment to Michael. i.e. She Needs Michael). Tanya might become the Don CJ's Consigliere.
2) The third opponent was defeated by informing Michael that he was her bottom bee-otch, her Underboss. (I'm saving the second thing for last because it gets good.) They want me but I need you. and Michael puts up as much of a fight as a school kid in the principle's office. Notice how easily he leaves his own house when she wants to talk to Saul and Victor.
3) The second opponent she vanquishes by settling family business. Victor & Saul aren't whacked but they are exiled to Dunbar. The cracks at Ground Zero are mentioned again as the reason Saul & Victor have earned their place in a secure spot and CJ honors her deal to the letter. They have to leave the Colony but they can have Dunbar. Why? Because the secret of Sean's death are revealed. C.J. losses her leg because she thought the Mallers killed Sean. She blames Saul's lie and makes a GOOD point about how he has lost nothing in the latest ordeal. He's gotten back his girl, mother, dog, lucky underwear and now a baby. But hey, who told her to try charge into the hospital? That poor dead woman who followed her in and was shot by Scratch sure as hell didn't. She lost more than a leg. For what reason? Tell me CJ! I want answers!
Just like GrogNaurd says, she's a planner but no leader. Kalani makes a better puppet master. She claims the Colonists trust and revere her and tells Tanya that she has their best interest at heart but then seeks revenge on Saul & Victor. They call her bluff by saying they'll tell everyone that she only did it for revenge, not for them. They capitulate because she says they owe it to her. OWE HER WHAT? Everything she does is for herself! The attack on the Colony was for herself, sending Saul & Victor to ground zero was for her own self interest...
But CJ Corleone is building her own house of cards. Just wait until Freddo, uh Skittles returns, armed with a cannoli. What will Michael, Tonya and the other say about Saul's & Victor's exile? Will they stay? If they leave will the Irwin Soldiers stay? Who gets the chopper? Can that thing even land at Dunbar? Does Pegs go? (I doubt it, as things stand now.)
WOW.
I don't think Michael will going to Dunbar, at least not immediately. I think the chopper crew along with Saul and victor will make their way to Dunbar, and begin the process of refortifying it. Saul and Victor will keeps their mouths shut so that Lizzy wo;; stay at the colony with Tanya for the child birth.
Does anyone see multiple splits coming?
Riley & Burt - To hunt for Scratch
Saul & Victor - to Dunbar with any one else who'll join them.
CJ & Peg Leg - At the Colony
It would be a shame for the group to split on bad terms but better for them to split in a Fort Irwin/Boulder model. Don't keep all of your baskets in one egg, because if the SHTF then it would be good to have a safe place to run too as opposed to finding and building a new safe place amidst the turmoil.
Also, seems like there is a new character after all, Max.
I had another thought about the whole issue of who is staying and leaving.
Bear with me a minute as I try to wrap my head around all of this. If people have to leave and go alllllllllllllllllllllllllll the way back to Dunbar, the fastest way to get there would be by helicopter. It's unlikely that Saul would want to put Lizzy through the possibly dangerous road trip and would probably try to talk Pegs into flying them over. I'm assuming Michael is going along and in the group, Michael would probably have the best claim of ownership on the helicopter. Now, although I said before that Pegs probably wouldn't have any reason to go with Michael, I thought of one: There could be another position open on the Scratch Death Squad.
In this scenario Michael, Datu, Pegs, Riley, Saul, Lizzy, Burt, Victor, Faith and Tanya take the Pelican to Dunbar. Once the people have arrived Riley, Burt and Pegs take off on a hunting trip. This may or may not be known to the rest of the group at the time they leave.
ETA: I forgot Hope (aka Faith in my mind, apparently) in the list. There are likely others as well but I'll add if I remember. Herp derp.
Do you mean Hope? LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Jannit;63734
In this scenario Michael, Datu, Pegs, Riley, Saul, Lizzy, Burt, Victor, [B
The Colony seems to be repeating old patterns of behavior. I can't help thinking that this was how Marcus ended up in charge in the first place.
It's good to hear that Burt and Riley are coming back into the forefront. Maybe they'll become the new dynamic duo of the story, taking over from Saul and Victor.
My guess is that there are fireworks to come when Saul and Victor tell Michael and crew that they're leaving. They probably won't share the fact that CJ has exiled them, which will be confusing for the others, but could help to avoid a complete break between the groups. I can see Michael and his Fort Irwin crew leaving, but I don't know if that includes Muldoon and Roberts. Those two only spent a short time with Michael, don't know Saul or Victor, and their helicopter is at the Colony and will probably be staying there. Burt, Riley, Lizzy and Hope will almost certainly move to Dunbar. I don't see Pegs or Kelly choosing to leave, though I wouldn't put it past CJ and vengeful Colonists to drive them out eventually.
I think that Datu and Tanya will choose to leave, and that will lead to problems with CJ and the Colonists, since they will be considered too valuable to lose. There could also be some problems when the group leaving for Dunbar tries to take some of the heavy weaponry that Michael brought with them from Fort Irwin (50 cal, KOTI).
Oh, only since no one else has tinfoiled this out yet... Scratch and gang are at Dunbar! :tinfoil:
Noooo, I don't think that is the case. Just want to conspiratheorize before 7oddIsDead, Red Shirt or Grognaurd beat me too it.
We have so many plot developments and everyone seems to be going their own way. We have 11 episodes to resolve most of this. We need convergence, not more divergence.
Wanton Speculation. The sane may wish to skip to next poster
CJ needs to hate the Mallers to join the crusade: The Mallers already had people in The Colony. Their first strike was to eliminate Sean by sending him into a trap and then to kill Marcus. Although it looks like an accident, The Mallers really did kill Sean
Michael is in a bad way with the colony. Everyone blames him for calling the Mallers. As above, the Mallers already had plans. They would have come even if he did not try to call "the nest". Recon teams from the tower had already picked up radio traffic to the south. If the tower picked up on it by accident, than the Mallers certainly would have since they were monitoring everything.
This simple twist helps to unify the survivors against the Mallers.
As Witch_Doctor says, everyone has their Flower Pot Moment. Will this be Victor's? He never even wanted to bring up Sean and told Saul so with the classic Nix Nay on the Hombre.
No one has clean hands and with less than a hundred humans left this is not the time to start pointing fingers. Now is the time to sweep up everybody's droppings and pull together as a team. They are in it for the species and if that is not a motivating enough, then maybe the humanity deserves what they got.
I have similar delusions with the outbreak and the family, but that is a tale for another chapter. Anymore and the people of the forums with good sense will lock me up in the psyche ward at Cain’s General Hospital.
LOL. I so want to write a fanfic where I show up and give an "independence day" speech, kick these people in the ass and knock some heads.
Was anyone else surprised at how many colonists there still are? I was picturing maybe 20 or 30, but if there were 62 votes and not everyone voted, then how many are we talking?
God damnit CJ, kicking them out of the colony, and now Burt and Riley on a rampage for Scratch, Michael not in charge, THIS ISN'T GOING THE WAY I WANT IT TO GO! ._.'