But she would repeat the process she used on herself that apparently kept her from turning, that she prolly mixed in a moment of panic and seems to have worked thus far....no?Quote:
Originally Posted by Blues_127
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But she would repeat the process she used on herself that apparently kept her from turning, that she prolly mixed in a moment of panic and seems to have worked thus far....no?Quote:
Originally Posted by Blues_127
I concur. Just thiking, maybe even over kill on TOP of that. It is one thing to be stingy and use up all the supplies for something you don't even know if it will work for your self... for your kid: 0 hesitation. Givem all we got!
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Originally Posted by Pillars
Yes, she actually says that the antibiotics were tried on the slow turner in Chapter 20. Also, note that she goes straight for the most powerful antibiotics she had available instead of building up to it with others. Another breadcrumb is CJ's suspiscion that the drugs have something to do with Saul's immunity at Ground Zero. Also supporting the drug solution is the fact that we have not seen evidence of anyone else being immune other than Saul and Tanya.
Yea, I think based on her having the cut/bite and not turning, her experiments, going right for the gusto on Saul, AND CJ's questioning of it, that she's found these drugs can stave off the onset of the virus, and others seem to only delay it. Perhaps she thinks/knows its only a matter of time before her/her son can turn based on the strength of the medicine....that seems more plausible than the natural resistance to me. Again, based on the breadcrumbs thus farQuote:
Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor
I'm betting that if the scavengers at the colony got their hands on those paticular meds with the time and areas available to them, then the hands of ft. Irwin can stretch further and retrieve more. That may even be a reason to go back to the hospital in LA. They would probably try other hospitals first but there has to be a fair amount of those meds in the southwest U.S alone.
I may be wrong, but my memory tells me that Tanya tried the hardcore meds on the slow turner and realized the meds wouldn't stop him from turning.
And even if this understand is wrong, even with this special antibiotics there is the problem with producing enough of it and using it on turned humans ...
Sounds plausible. Tanya's and Saul's immunity could have been caused just by their genes. See:Quote:
Originally Posted by LiamKerrington
http://digitaljournal.com/article/307120
If there *IS* actually an antidote, then the question arises, why anyone should deploy the Zeeh-virus around the world, when he is not just a quite frustrated member of a Doomsday sect.
Until now, I alway assumed the zombiecalypse to be the result of an experiment that utterly failed. But this would oppose the antidote's existence, would it not?
What if it's a combination of the two ideas? i.e Tanya's line has some level of resistance/immunity, but would still be at risk of turning when bit without the kickass antibiotics.
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Originally Posted by lr42186
That sounds very plausible. Sadly if this is true, it would make some very dramatic scenes, everyone fighting trying to get hold of Tanya and/or Saul to try and find a cureQuote:
Originally Posted by lr42186
I don't think she ever said what she tried specifically....and just based on my assumtions from listening this is how it happened in my brainQuote:
Originally Posted by LiamKerrington
She got someone bit, gave them antibiotic #1.....they lasted a few days before turning
got another bit, gave them antibiotic #2....they lasted a week before turning
She got bit/scratched, decided two is better than one and administered the molotov cocktail to herself in haste to try and buy time, but has seemingly fought it off until now.....She chalked that up as a win and gave it to Saul as her pressumed vaccination.
And i think there is a clear difference in antidote vs vaccination. As in the meds must be administered before the person has turned, if its given after, I don't think it will reverse the affects. So it's only a vaccine, not an antidote....and Tanya hasn't pressed forward with her theory because they were such ridiculous strong meds that she knows there is not an abundance of them...
Again, this is all TOTAL speculation...I don't necessarily have any evidence to back it up...Because in all honesty, if she even had an idea that she found the vaccine, wouldn't she tell SOMEone at Ft. Irwin to try and get her hands on the stuff and make more?....especially michael?
Tanya sais so in #20-2 when she treats Saul. She describes the stuff as the last ressort ('these two are the strongest'), and a few minutes later she sais that she tried it on one if the creatures; and as Burt asks about her having captured a zed, she clarifies the test on the slow turner ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoff4D
Maybe I stretch it a little, but to me that sounds like her having had an infected person which she tried to rescue with the "last ressort", and because she failed saving him the slow-turner was euthanized before it finsihed turning after all ... Maybe the antibiotics slowed the turning, maybe it was a genetic attribute of the victim, maybe it was both ... I think this remains a mystery for now ...
BUT: I have no recollection of Tanya having taken this mixture of anti-biotics herself ... Anyone?
All the best!
Liam
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Originally Posted by LiamKerrington
No, me neither. She's not likely to mention having taken any of the drugs prior to her bite marks being discovered at Fort Irwin. If she did say something then it would reveal that she had been bitten. After her bites were discovered she doesn't mention taking any of the drugs herself, but says that she gave some to the slow turner.
I could be wrong but I believe both of the meds used on Saul were for bacteria. That would give is an insight to what kind of infection they're dealing with. I know one is used to treat Malaria and even acne and the other is very very strong and its name comes from the word "vanquish". Im not sure if either could cure something in the brain though. I need to do some research.