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Um, Saul.... Angel.... Hope.... ? I don't recall a St. Bixby in the Bible. Wait- could Gatekeeper be a reference to St. Peter at the pearly gates??!?Quote:
Originally Posted by ImPaul
Sorry dude, but I think you are
LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT JUST ISN'T THERE
Interesting how this post wasn't reported as being offensive...Quote:
Originally Posted by Witch_DoctorOK, any guesses as to what Saul heard underground?
Sounds like a little one, but bigger, deeper and raspier.
Maybe burrows under ground like a giant worm.
Missing zombies.
Mad Scientist at play.
Nope. Because Victor fires pure awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Litmaster
Saw this and wanted to bring it up to see what people thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by Windsor995
My guess is based on the consideration of the gas. Ground Zero was avoided to begin with. KC gave us a few hints to 'choose' from. One was that Ground Zero Gas has dissipated some. I am going with that one. The Little One there attacked a regular one there for some unknown reason. We know many of the 'special' ones came from there. CJ said as much. Said the closer you get to Ground Zero the more unique ones you saw. That makes me think that gas changed you more than just into a Zed. Pushed the 'Evolution' further. Much like how the Zeds already have a better circulatory system. My other guess is that the gas makes you meaner and harder to control. Could explain why Hawaii was meaner (More Gas Maybe?) and why it was avoided and came back later.
Even if it doesn't make your "meaner', Ink is using the gas for something. My guess is to help with the New Little One breeding.
Hard to tell on mobile, but looks like he might be pulling another mag out with his other hand. Could just be in the middle of reloading.Quote:
Originally Posted by Litmaster
And for those people saying Saul made it, keep in mind they still have a bomb to deliver down a tunnel. Who's the best candidate to sneak into the enemy base on a suicide mission? Someone with a fresh bite and a protection symbol scratched into his face? Michael didn't sound too confident that kodi could get by the zombies.
Our military and other countries or any country for that matter who has encountered the wrath of technological advances from their enemies. In short, one must advance and adapt to their enemies advances or expect a bad outcome. I'm not saying Ink just wants to be left alone,...I'm saying, he wants to LIVE AND CONQUER.Quote:
Originally Posted by FenixArc
Victor doesn't need ammo. His charm is enough.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Litmaster
haha well spotted!! yes i am sure that is the reason they are driving flat out to GTF outta there :-DQuote:
Originally Posted by Litmaster
His charm.... or his cologne?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooer
So, I was thinking of alternate means of the title. Sometimes a "man cave" is called a den. When I was young, we did not have the man cave term and used Den. I got to thinking that Durai's place sounded like a den, so I googled Durai and Lion and came across a vide game reference. The final fantasy franchise.
Some dude named Durai writes a history of the Lion War.
Interesting, but think it was just a random coincidence
They are taking all the bodies, for the same reason they have moved underground I presume, to protect themselves (under the command of Ink) from the humans (our group).
As was explained, the group have made them worse, needing to up their game to survive the threat of extinction, just as humans are doing. It's hard to get to them underground and also the haze creates an effective barrier!
That's what she said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Litmaster
You ever wondering who is Bishop's father from the X-men? It's Vic, the man can power a M-16 with his love. It's lethal to those who can't handle it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Litmaster
Honestly, it look like he get putting one out of his side pocket/pouch.
Grats Gnex your title proves KC can count! ;)
I am afraid to post too much because Zombie Humper is a pretty cool title
What is the new Monster!
Deeper voice leads me to believe they are super sized little ones
I do not think we have a for sure answer for that. Scratch describes three families, aware of eachother, but probably have their own agenda. Her ring has three interconnecting rings. Later Durai says that Angel's father was a good friend. He did not use a traditional family term like brother or cousin, so my guess is they are separate.Quote:
Originally Posted by wminscoe7
Your personal set title doesn't change with your posting haha. Only the default ones, like Builder, Hoarder, Lurker etc change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duffusmonkey
They were both related to the group known as "The Family", but they are related to different groups(or families) within the Family....Quote:
Originally Posted by wminscoe7
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Originally Posted by Verse
This is what I've assumed all along. But now, I don't know WHAT to think.
Well, remember that the little one that attacked the soldiers at Raydon Labs was described as being bigger and wider. What does THAT mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by Duffusmonkey
Me, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor
I would not put too much stock in what Kalami says. I think it is an example of hometown envy. When I was a kid, people used to complain that the rats ate bigger, meaner and smarter than anywhere else. Kalani was able to out run the biters in Hawaii as he was in LA. Then, the next time he encounters them, they are nice enough to give him free room and board at the Arena. So, I guess he is right the ones in Hawaii are meaner if they did not offer the same hospitality.
He neve mentions any special types in Hawaii, so my guess he just encountered normal biters and not the maart ones that Ink has assembled
Lamarsh brings up a good point when Tanya was dissecting the little one. I would still like to know how they aged or what their apparent age was. I'm pretty sure if they looked like kids someone would have said something to the effect remember Tommy and Hope are still kids to our group so anything looking much younger than a pre-teen would probably get a mention.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grognaurd
I can't believe no one said it Senor Victor just goes *bam* and the zombies fall down convinced they were shot. They drive off and Ink comes out ala Gene Wilder in Frankenstein "Idiots! I'm surrounded by idiots!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Hellbringer
So ink wears a family ring also with three circles. I have to get off this forum. My mind is spinning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooer
No, we have no evidence that Ink has a ring.Quote:
Originally Posted by wminscoe7
Ok. I'm reading about the rings or markings on his hand, tattoos. I assumed a literal ring when I first read it. Oops. Copy of post below. It's long and totally blew me away with details. Copy below from another page:
I was reading through the thread for Chapter 30, part 1 of ?? and also went of in search of the cover art to have a look at it. Later in the thread, I read this, posted by wh33t:
Originally Posted by wh33t:
Ink is one tricky Mutha... who knows what he is up too. Maybe Ink is like a "god father" of the Families or something.
I thought to myself, why not check? I've had this thought before myself. The art for Chapter 27 is his hand gripping a door way. Surely someone would have noticed a ring by now, but I want to see for myself.
I think that I might have found something more interesting and sinister.
Have a good close look at his hand. At first glance it looks like a bunch of convoluted mumbo jumbo. I looked closer and made a few startling discoveries.
At his wrist (and on his pinky finger) are what looks like molecular symbols of a Benzine Ring. More specifically, those found in Aromatic Hydrocarbons and Polycyclic Aromatic Hydrocarbons. This specific one looks similar to Chrysene and Benzo(a)pyrene, both of which are known carcinogens. More specifically, the diagram on his wrist, if you flip it over, bears a striking resemblance to Benzo(a)pyrene's interaction with DNA. My guess is that it is another AH/PAH that is interacting with DNA in a way far more complex than cancer.
A great deal of these hydrocarbons are found in coal tar, oil, fossil fuel, ect., the stuff found underground. Did Ink know something about zombie causing chemicals underground and tattoo their symbols on his body?
It gets better and goes deeper.
On the back of his hand (and on his middle finger) are a series of lines and dots. To me, these look like one of, or a combination of:
The Celestial/Angelic Alphabet: (WIKI)
Documented (Created?) by Heinrich Cornelius Agrippa in the 16th century. Derived from the Hebrew and Greek alphabets, and purported to be used for communication with angels.
The Malachim: (WIKI)
Same guy, also derived from the Hebrew and Greek alphabets. Still in use to a limited extent by the Freemasons.
The Transitus Fluvii or "Passing the River alphabet" (WIKI)
Same guy again. Derived from the Hebrew alphabets. It is described as an occult alphabet.
These, combined with others are found in/on the magical incantations of wards, talismans, curses and the like in many faiths such as early Judeo-Christianity and Druidic/Paganism. It seems that Heinrich Cornelius Agrippa may have building on King Solomon and the incorrectly attributed Key of Solomon, around which there are many legends of magical power relating to the summoning and control of spirits and demons.
Then there is the Snakes and the Bacteria. I'm at somewhat of a loss to explain these. The snakes could be a reference to the Original Sin, where the Fallen Angel Lucifer, in the form of a snake, persuaded Eve to eat the forbidden fruit.
As for the bacteria, I don't know if it is a generalized representation or meant to be a specific strain. While looking them up I was struck by the idea that the bacteria may be responsible for secreting the above mentioned chemicals. Perhaps a Molecular Chemist and a Bacteriologist could shed more light on this.
I wonder... it this meant to be indicative of the fusion of science and religion? The combination of the occult with technology that brought about the zombie holocaust? This adds another layer to the already mysterious question of who is this guy?
This is what I was thinking when I heard Tanya getting all defensive. When did she become a zombie sympathizer? IF this ends with Micheal saying "They are just looking for a place to live" alal the Day of the Dead remake rrrrr...Quote:
Originally Posted by Merlin1274
Just to try and clear the air of this, as it's come up a few times, Tanya isn't saying they aren't aggressive or hostile, just that the actions of our protagonists have escalated the problem. She's saying their actions directly correlate with the enhancement of their enemy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven
Is that their fault? That's up to you. I have my answer, but I might keep that to me for now. But, think about this... those "enhancements" and creation of the little ones, were directly responsible for the fall of Boulder.
On the idea that the special ones only came from the areas with the highest concentration of gas: I don't really dig it. There could be other factors at play as well. Where is that location in relation to people who could have become smart ones? If it's close to the university, hospital, office buildings, etc. there could be other reasons for those ones being smart and/or special other than just the gas.
If smart people become smart zombies, wouldn't it make some sort of sense for strong or fast people to become extra strong or fast zombies? Maybe that's where the runners and jumpers came from.
Guys, I went back to look at Inglewood in a bit more detail and noticed one of the first mentions on Wikipedia is that there are Hot Springs where Eward Vincent Jr. Park is now. If there are hot springs in the area it lends credence to the theory that the gas could be a natural subtonic phenomena. This could also explain why the gas shows up in other areas of the city in that the other tunnels the zombies are using could be tapping into the same under ground tunnel or water system.
I just wanted to throw this out there as I don't remember off hand if anyone had made note of it before. My theory crafting time is going to be limited for the next few weeks so hopefully someone can get some use out of this.
Fuck that, then just break out some paint brushes and plaster that protection symbol all over KODI! :nik:Quote:
Originally Posted by FenixArc
Here is some more real life stuff from that area... I wrote about it way back when, between seasons and I occasionally just reference "Fracking in Ingelwood". I do not mean do the Battlestar Galactica wild thing, fracking is real life process of pumping stuff down into old oil fields to get more of the good stuff out.
Pulled and edited from an old newspaper article...
On January 10, 2006, fracking at the Inglewood Oil Field released a cloud of fumes so toxic that residents of Baldwin Hills and Culver City were forced to evacuate their homes.
The Inglewood Oil Field in Baldwin Hills is the largest urban oilfield in the nation -- more than one million people live within five miles of the site -- and it sits atop a fault line capable of 7.4 magnitude earthquake. Drilling at the Inglewood Oil Field dates back to 1926, but the oil reserves were thought to be sucked dry ... until 2004, when PXP got the greenlight to drill three new wells.
exactly!!!! paint KODI up with the protection symbol and then sit him out in the open and yell "HELP!!! HELP ME!!!!" on the Radio........ Sit back and watch the Zombies come running up for a snack and then stop when they see the symbol....... then when they walk off yell Help again so they run back and forth....... just keep doing that until their heads explode from confusion!!! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Litmaster
My only problem with the fracking angle is it's not something that would necessarily occur on a large enough scale world-wide to cause the apocalypse. I guess I like the idea of hot springs since they're naturally ocurring and water is much more common than oil. If there were a way for the virus/pathogen to spread in the ground water that'd explain how the entire world was affected all at once. At least that's how it plays out in my mind.
That is the crux of the issue. I cannot think of a natural phenomena that happens in so many places at once. Mother Nature is more random and does not communicate over global distances in very short periods of time. That brings up intent. If there is intent, there is a conspiracy. Topside people? They are the only ones we know about, but why would anyone pull the trigger on this? Killing 6.5 billion people has gotta be hard on the karma.
An under-Earth intelligence? They get pissed off at us stealing all their dinosaur Kimche that they have stored away to eat later ( oil ) but, now we are fracking, we are not just stealing their food, we are flooding their tunnels with crap. So they attack. I do not think the story will play out his way. I am just stating that I have been looking at so many possibilities.
This also does not jive with ones that are littered with scars and bruises that Michael sees initially. If they contribute to the outbreak, we are then back to conspiracy, because people have to turn them lose in a number of cities.
If it is a gas, why would a scratch from a little one turn Amy in the attack of the colony? We can put something in the blood and have the little ones scratch themselves to get blood underneath their finger nails. But a gas? It could be a virus. Many virus and small bacteria can be next to impossible to see under a standard light microscope unless very strict staining protocols are used.
Is your point that an enemy isn't simply a villain who exists in order to be destroyed? The more you try to destroy a group, the more likely they are to respond in kind because they aren't cardboard cutouts providing you with an opportunity to win?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kc
Humans tend to get caught up in false dichotomies and that's when you get the intractable foe and the unwin-able argument. We must win this way on that type of battlefield. Still, in this instance you'd never have a clearer example of one group's need to completely wipe out another. Co-existence isn't really an option. Maybe that's part of the appeal to the genre. No pesky ethical concerns.
Someone once said to me that every problem starts out as a solution to another problem. For instance, you try to save lives using medicines and end up creating a problematic pharmaceutical industry. I guess that's why Attila the Hun made it a point to only leave people shorter than a wagon wheel--less blow-back.
All good questions, Grog! This story keeps me going in endless circles like some kind of crazy infinity loop which is part of the appeal. I'm almost dreading finding out how it all ends and getting my questions answered just because the chase has been so much fun.
