Tower Collapse (Who survived)

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Originally Posted by Leet693

I don't think Angel or Burt is dead but who was the other Tower occupant that Scratch had? I think Hannah was the redhead they shot at the golf course but that's just my guess

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Or someone is pregnant ....

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Originally Posted by HoosUDaddy

...Also, my wife also just reminded me that Hope made the comment that the distance was "so far" to the other building before she took the zip line. So, was she lying about being blind or suddenly healed? "Halleluiah!"

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I thinks she is underestimating blind people. There is a blind guy on Expedition Impossible tv show who, when doing a zip line, said that he could hear how big the cavern was. Like a bat uses echo blind people can hear the open space. Also, she would be aware of the distance from earlier conversations, experiences. She may have even walked outside to the other building to help setup.

I could be wrong but I just don't read that much into the comment.

Guys .... Kalani is dead. The fire which burnt the zipline was from the wreckage he was in ... dead.

The blonde guy picked up by scratch was clearly Angel. The question at hand really should be is Burt dead or almost dead. I don't see how he could have survived and really think it would be a great way to end his story (which was a great one).

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Originally Posted by Adogg

The blonde guy picked up by scratch was clearly Angel. The question at hand really should be is Burt dead or almost dead. I don't see how he could have survived and really think it would be a great way to end his story (which was a great one).

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There was no mention of hair color in the epilogue of the chapter. So there's no way to clearly identify who was found except Burt....or Leopold. They are both old men....

Kalani says sorry for the flat tire because when they went to the army base he burst the tires, that was when they were getting the food packs

my bet is Angel is alive and was found at the end by Scratch, Burt is alive, only just, i think Saul will be alive and get to the base because he knows where it is and Kalani is dead. The explosion made by the fuel tanker and the fuel in the chopper he was in would have destroyed him.

BTW I'm pretty sure she's preggers. as soon as she started randomly throwing up on people it reminded me of my own early pregnancy nausea.

Hey guys this is my first post so hello to all.

I'm going to vote for:
Kalani is dead.............I think he could possibly be the mole (maybe he wrote it in his diary and thats why he wanted Angel to grab it so badly)


Angel is alive............... I also think he could be the mole due to scratch saying at the end of the credits when she finds someone in the rubble

("i've found what i was looking for")

Plus earlier in the episode she talks about how she had spoken with Angel when he dropped off her brother for pegs? (if i'm correct on the pegs bit...)

Burt barely alive..... I would hope Kc will give him a better send off so here's hoping he is alive

Saul ..... deffo still alive i think the story will fracture into there different parts i.e. saul saves lizzy then they try find a way to where micheal and crew are..

Micheal and the rest as we know are safe for now............................................... .............



Also if you click on their names it takes you to the wiki page and it says on there if they are deceased or still alive

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Kalani is dead, I ran it over in my brain and the number of different factors in that crash followed immediately by an explosion gives Divine Intervention as his only chance of survival. Saul and Victor are smart and are the best "doers" in the tower, as Marcus would put it, "ground, pounder infantry". They can move stealthily in the field. Victor was a successful Recon agent for a while there and managed to ambush Michael, so I know his stealth is high. Saul is a specialist and Michael says he's a great solider, but the stealth knife kill in season 3. They are the two I would give the best chances for surviving on the ground right now.

I am betting Burt is still alive, but mangled. He might be crippled for the rest of his life in the series or maybe it is just broken bones that can heal.

I just had a revelation how Angel could have survived the collapsing of the Tower. Michael said he couldn't see Angel, presumably because of the smoke. However maybe Angel wasn't there to see and found somewhere secure to be or was going down. I'm not very knowledgeable in how a building collapse or how one would survive, but I figure Angel had to be a specific spot and very lucky to even still be breathing. I do think that Angel was the one that Bricks discovered and Scratch said to put with the "old man" (Whom I am positive is Burt, unless they capture Leopold)

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Thanks for telling me that ^_^ i wont take what it says as fact anymore lol

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Originally Posted by Adogg

Or someone is pregnant ....



I thinks she is underestimating blind people. There is a blind guy on Expedition Impossible tv show who, when doing a zip line, said that he could hear how big the cavern was. Like a bat uses echo blind people can hear the open space. Also, she would be aware of the distance from earlier conversations, experiences. She may have even walked outside to the other building to help setup.

I could be wrong but I just don't read that much into the comment.

Guys .... Kalani is dead. The fire which burnt the zipline was from the wreckage he was in ... dead.

The blonde guy picked up by scratch was clearly Angel. The question at hand really should be is Burt dead or almost dead. I don't see how he could have survived and really think it would be a great way to end his story (which was a great one).

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I think Burt could be alive. They seemed to play up that he almost got to the other side, so maybe he managed to drop into a window on one of the lower floors.

Kalani is definitely dead though, no doubt about it.

Also, I may be remembering wrongly but didn't one of Mallers saying something about 'the old man' a short time before the helicopters came? I'll listen back and see if I can find it.

OK just got done introducing my whole family to the 1st season and 2nd season on a road trip from Iowa going back to Cali. So here is my 2 pennies

Kalani is dead. The crash of a Bell Helicopter 15 stories onto and explosive laden fuel tanker makes for a very very long shot for survival. I can see the evidence of him being the rat, but I am not biting. Personally I do not see him having the balls to hook up with the mallers in the begininng and the chance of him being hooked up before the arena with them and ending up with The Tower seem pretty chancey. Plus he didn't seem to be there very long before there party and the Mallers attack at the end of the 1st season after he was rescued. I know time doesn't flow evenly in the story but that was how I percieved it.

Saul and Victor are alive and I think they have rescued Lizzie. Scratch didn't mention her at the end of the last chapter, only the old man. This is the only evidence I have for this thought.

I think Skittles will pop up here again, maybe with a few minor survivors or even Saul, Victor and Lizzie.

Angel is alive. I think he is the peson they found at the end of the final chapter. And I know some peeps feel he is the rat, but again I am not biting. I think there is some kinda of history between him and Scratch and Latch. And that is why I think Scratch is satified saying "I have found what I was looking for."

As to the rat, I think she is on the Jolly Green Giant. My money is between Kelly and Riley. I see guilt in both of them that could be because of what has happened due to there actions. I was leaning hard towards Kelly, but my family added perspective towards Riley that moves the bar back to the middle.

I do not know if the survivors on the Jolly Green are going to go all the way to Ft. Irwin. I could see them landing at LAX and regrouping a bit. Maybe even giving them a chance to come across some of our others survivors like Saul, Victor, and Lizzie.

And Burt, well we know he is alive. And he may be hurt but I don't think near as jacked up as we can assume from a long fall. There have been some good possibilities put forward as to how he survived and I think this could also work towards him not being too damaged.

KC, damn good story. You got my mom (64 years old) hooked. Cannot wait til next season