Yeah, it was. Perhaps we'll do it again with a few legacy games maybe. It's hard to find the right game for those sorts of things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooer
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Yeah, it was. Perhaps we'll do it again with a few legacy games maybe. It's hard to find the right game for those sorts of things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooer
Scratch has no idea that CJ survived their initial encounter and is now crippled. Cant wait to see what happens if they meet again in the finale.
Given everything else Max revealed it's unlikely he would've omitted the part of CJ being alive.Quote:
Originally Posted by DagnyTag
Maybe we can get something going on something pc based? *shrug* Just a thought... I'm not opposed to picking up a title just for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kc
I've seen the Just Cause 2 multiplayer mod... that thing is insane. It practically makes it an MMO.
+1 on the PC based game idea. I am not their biggest fan - but I would totally play with the WA gang.Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Shirt
However - consul games are the root of all evil.
(Derailing thread in 3... 2...)
Dota, Kc... Let's all share a long round of Dota. I'll love you all long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kc
Like Jannit said, but I love that Kc has brought heavy scars to A LOT of characters through Scratch, and I honestly have absolutely NO idea of who is worthy of taking her life.Quote:
Originally Posted by DagnyTag
Took Angel from Riley.
Destroyed Shirley and removed Burt's finger.
Attacked the tower, resulting in numerous desths on two occasions(which pretty much gives Michael a free bullet for her...because leader).
Was a supporting factor in Tommy's death, of course, but Kelly seems to not hold grudges easily, even when she was stuck up.
Kidnapped Lizzy, which nearly resulted in rape( Another point for Riley but it now adds Saul for payback).
Cost CJ her leg.
Anyone else available to hitch a ride on the Scratch assault train? I can't think of any more off the top of my head.
Me and MMORPGs don't mix. Maybe TF2...?Quote:
Originally Posted by Miharu
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Originally Posted by Miharu
Although I see it, too, that very likely someone's gonna put an end to Scratch, I must toss in three opposing ideas:
1. Scratch's gonna end things. Her mission is simple: Kill Pegs. If she does so, she's gonna move away, 'cause this story arc has ended.
2. Scratch will shoot everyone in the face who is not capable of a) running away or b) hiding well enough. The only two survivors I see right now are Kelly and Hope. But anyone else is not capable of defending him/herself or anyone else against Scratch and two brutes properly. And Riley and Burt will need some time to get into this place ... So this will end in a total massacre with Scratch getting away, because she is just that: a real survivor.
3. [WARNING! Opinion!] I am no fan of the revenge-concept. Revenge dictated so many actions in the whole WA story. And anytime it was used, things went southwards at the speed of light. So, it would like to see a story, in which humans stop shooting each other - no matter what has gone wrong in the past.
(After all we must not forget: the confrontation with Scratch has begun, 'cause Lizzy, Saul, and Burt interfered with the plans of the Mallers; and during the first confrontation Burt fueled the hatred to a certain degree. Ok, granted: Scratch is a master in deceit and violence; but I wonder how things would have evolved if the Towerites and the Mallers met under different circumstances, which by the way is really hard to tell.)
Best wishes!
Liam
I would have a serious issue with Burt and Riley making it in time back to Dunbar. The sheer force of her attack can only be compared to the game-changing appearance of Michael's team when Ink attacked the colony. And this turned out to be a very costly lost for Ink.
Burt and Riley decided to leave the group to start their very own vendetta for Scratch, now they will have to live with the consequences.
Really wish I could be at the finale, it's a shame I live in England haha.
But Ch. 47 was intense. Don't know what I'm going to do when it's all over. D:
But, if Scratch had not told Durai about the tower, he would not of wanted to scout it out (Scratch and Latch arriving at the tower), and then want to take it over. Pretty sure they would of not had the results that have occurred if Durai had left the tower well alone (pretty sure someone said they wouldn't of done anything to the tower, maybe Scratch?). The only reason the whole revenge story plots have existed is because of Durai wanting the tower.Quote:
Originally Posted by LiamKerrington
Scratch acted on behalf of her own agenda and did many things without Durai even knowing. Durai would not have accepted another strong group of survivors nearby. That is why he supported any action against any of the three survivor-locations - the Tower, Dunbar, and the Colony. The tanker-rig just fueled or catalyzed the situation for the Tower; and Kalani was another factor leading to several attacks on the Tower. If Durai was not interested in the Tower, Scratch would have done enough to make Durai care enough about the Tower, 'cause that's what Scratch does: turn things in her own favor and based only on her own plans and wishes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooer
Best wishes!
Liam
Please do not forget that independent of BURT, the mallers took slaves. This was pointed out by Kilani and Tardust. Victor found multiple IDs on one person. Many people not multiple IDs for one person. This also reinforces the concept of ownership. A maller held the IDs of the owned people..
Further, the mallers treated the colonists like Schtako and that can not be blamed on Burt.
In a city of 16 million people, if you think there are only 10 fuel rigs, you are delirious. The mallers could have easily gotten more. But they would rather impose violence.
Dunbar and The tower cannot be the only high rise buildings, yet the mallers would rather impose violence to take rather than initiative to build.
Latch got his nickname for being so good at picking locks and stealing other People's shit.
I think the mallers were already aware of Burt and his store, before the outbreak. LA cannot support many black market arms dealers. Thus Scratch's dig saying she was Locked and Loaded and Burt's comment that those gun came from my shop. If you ask me, an RPG with ten rockets is much more rare and valuable than one fuel rig. So, by just about any measure, the mallers stole from Burt and in effect traded the RPG for rig.
And last, but not least Latch thought Scratch would be on death row if he had not taken the wrap.
So, do not give me any Victorian non-sense about the misunderstood Noble savage. The mallers are the horde that parasitically suck the resources out of society.
If Scratch kills Pegs it would add another point to Michael's column, but seeing as how I imagine him spending the entirety of the finale fighting Ink, if he even survives I don't see him getting back in time to have another battle with Scratch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miharu
Pete has a grudge against her. He got shot and tortured for some time in the Colony thanks to her, but I don't see him getting to finish her since he's a minor character and he's alone and injured.
Honestly, I don't really care who kills her, I just hope she doesn't weasel away at the end. She's a horrible human being from the start. Absolutely rotten to her core, and I don't really care about her tragic past. She chose to carry herself forward like this. Riley would be the best to kill her, since the hunt for her was fueled by her executing Angel, but that would feel too cliche and easy for Riley to get the kill in such a complicated and well written story. Plus after Tardust, I'm not sure i could see her pulling the trigger anyway.
If she escapes alive I would be very, very disappointed. Frankly I'm sort of annoyed her story has lasted this long into the finale anyway. I kind of wish she had been finished at the end of Season 3. Her desire for revenge is stale now. I hope that she gets a very anti-climactic death and accomplishes nothing in the end. She's the reason her brother and nearly all of the inmates from Eastern Bay are dead at this point. Her body count is so high and a lot of them are her supposed friends. I kind of want Hope to gun her down to protect Nicholas right before she is about to execute Pegs. I just hope that Puck isn't a casualty!
Dunbar is toast, that is a fact.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtbejMoJcp0
So uh.....how could they of known that Dredd ran the whole way around the floor, and that he didn't stop and drop.....?Quote:
Originally Posted by YetAnotherBloodyCheek
Scratch's sister is a bad shot with minigun.Quote:
Originally Posted by YetAnotherBloodyCheek
I concur.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooer
http://25.media.tumblr.com/vVmbDWseN...RISVo1_500.jpg
In order to round up the Dredd references, I just hope that the Dunbar situation does not end like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GicpGf3whJg
I guess Liam would favor this outcome...
Guess again.Quote:
Originally Posted by YetAnotherBloodyCheek
As we have learned the Mallers consider everything they put their ons as theirs. That's pretty much part of the essence of the first confrontation between Scratch/Latch and Lizzy/Saul/Burt. The Mallers never actually considered sharing as an option. Yes, there were many more than just 10 rigs; but those 10 rigs were the ones the Mallers had chosen to be important for their tasks - not important as absolutely necessary from an objective perspective, but important from a totally subjective perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grognaurd
Who says Scratch would be a "misunderstood Noble savage"? And why would this be Victorian non-sense? As far as I know Noble savages were considered savagesall in all during (and nothing else but this) the Victorian age ... :nik:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grognaurd
Best wishes!
Liam
As both the colony survivors and the infected seek to establish order in the new world they have found themselves in, Scratch is the embodiment of entropy.
Lol, perhaps. Dota's a MOBA, by the way :P Same difference, I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kc
I also love how everyone blaming Burt for everything forgets this. They are blaming them for stealing the rig while wielding the guns they themselves stole.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grognaurd
at least we know burt, riley will have their show off of scratch.
here's a little tease stuff i did for WE'RE ALIVE.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x21...easer_creation
The Mallers have a tendency to find a reason to start conflict. They can then justify it in their minds. The most blatant example is how Kalani shot the rifle at the Mallers from the Tower, and was told to by Scratch. Now, did SHE want that to happen, or did Durai? When leading people, they need to have motivation... even if it's false motivation.Quote:
Originally Posted by clem131
That was cool! Nicely done :)Quote:
Originally Posted by facebook.com/alexinks
Nice! I like the way you drew Scratch... that's pretty much how I imagine her.Quote:
Originally Posted by facebook.com/alexinks
Oh, I do understand their logic. I'm just surprised anyone else could seriously embrace it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kc
You might, but how many people follow blind leaders, even in our world now? Imagine you take away all the safety, and bring in a lot of fear. It's easier to survive in a shitty group, than no group at all. Who knows what kinds of things were said and thought of the people of the tower... The mallers could have genuinely believed they came in peace with no other way to survive. When they started to get fired on... it could have been an easy switch in the brain.Quote:
Originally Posted by clem131
"Look, life sucks for all of us out here, can't we just join you? Our place is getting attacked a lot and we're losing people..."
BLAM...
"They're firing at us?! What did we do? These people must not think we're survivors too... they're just stuck on the fact that we were incarcerated. I don't want to go back to that place... we HAVE to get in there. If we don't, I might be next! At least go down fighting..."
There's lot of perspectives to the story that can sometimes get lost, especially through the blur of the folds that are the journals. We see only one side... well, most of the time.
Wanna know what Ink's first words will be in the finale? He looks into KODI's camera and says "PLUGH" then he magically appears behind Micheal. Saul is suddenly able to read some writing on Ink's face, grabs Micheal and Victor, then screams out, "XYZZY". They magically teleport to another dark room underground. Unfortunately, there is a knife welding elf..... OK I need a nap.
Hopefully. They need something to get past the mini gun....
Unless its superwomen's costume, its not getting past that minigun.
Or Captain America's shield....Quote:
Originally Posted by 7oddisdead
I do understand all that, what I meant is: people HERE listening to the podcast and having received an account of the first encounter with Latch and Scratch STILL thinking it's all Burt's fault for stealing the tanker and not obediently put its gun down and get shot. Can understand why Scratch would think that, I don't understand how can anyone else here in the real world. That was my point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kc
Regarding the specific example you bring on, I'm sure there was malice in the Mallers, at least at the top management level. The pawns could have been clueless, maybe, although with slaves going around all the time even the dumbest ones must have suspected something was wrong, Mitchell and Webb style...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU
It is even simpler than that. The mallers are the classic Horde that pillages civilized society.
Mallers: wow, living in a high rise apartment is a great idea! Let's go steal their's. This gets even more fundamentally stupid. The Mallers know where Ink lives and fear him, but the course of action they choose is to go steal someone else's tower that is closer to the arena where Ink lives.
The Strip Mall is on the west coast. The Arena is well to the very North East of the LA region. The Tower is much closer and I think Dunbar is also, because Saul, Burt and Lizzy encounter the ambush site when the go North from the Tower and then Loop West to get to te Fuel depot.
I am pretty sure this is right, but I have not looked at a map since season 2 and I am not sure if KC placed Dunbar. I bet it is closer than the strip mall
Only Riots during the finale will be at the afterparty amiright?!?!?! :britt:Quote:
Originally Posted by GILBERTOx24
fixed for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gnex
lets hope so. I did afterall, pack my riot gear. hate feeling overdressed
How about a grenade?Quote:
Originally Posted by GamerGirl