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I always just took it as the fact that there were just as many male zombies as female zombie running around.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Jannit
Just that the zombies that we actually get descriptions of seem to be mostly male.....
How do the tattoos of molecular diagrams mean protection?
Yea, I just noticed that too. Mostly the descriptions and sounds we gotten have been males. The last time we could id one was Angel's gf and in Boulder I believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gnex
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I don't think every single tattoo means protection..... I think the majority of the symbols mean protection.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Eviebae
but the diagrams and stuff could have been for other reasons.......
The image @Kc provide is very interesting. When we as a group looked at Ink's Tattoos, we made the connection to protection. Some of us went further off he deep end and wondered if there was a Jungian aspect to it. That some images go deep into he sub-conscious to the primal brain (1).
But, the one that seemed to work is not anything we recognized. This begs the question is there an external intelligence at work? Is it just a gas? Is there a parasite with its own intelligence?
(1) on an aside, I think a dragon is an amalgum of creatures we feared millions of years ago. It has the mouth of a crocadile which would ambush when we got water. A neck and tail like a snake which could surprise in the trees and in the long grass. Some were poison us and others were constrictors. It had wings like the eagles that could surprise us from the air and a big powerful body and forelimbs similar to a large cat that That could swat us and rake with claws.
Oh, they're definitely out there, but there are fewer for two reasons. One, we don't use the female zombie noises as much as the males because the males SFX sound more menacing and threatening. That's not to say that the females aren't equally a threat. In reality, that female little one that hitched a ride to boulder was responsible for killing more than any other male...Quote:
Originally Posted by Gnex
And two, it's the same reason we don't have many children zombies. The initial attack/turning would have fewer children and females survive. That's not meant to be sexist, but rather more of a realistic perspective that larger males would have more of a chance to survive the initial attack to turn.
That's fair. Thanks for the clarification, Kc.
I think the biggest thing standing in the way of this is the fact that the zombies eat humans. It's not really a live and let live situation. Wasn't there a quote at the beginning of Xmen - Days of Future Past, something like "when homo sapiens arrived, homo errectus were wiped out in short order". Well, that's what we have here with the arrival of the zeds. They are the "new evolution" of humanity, and the old models have to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gnex
So far as we have seen, humans seem to be the primary food source for all zeds, even if they are willing to eat other things including each other. We also have no evidence so far that the zombies have any way of replenishing their food sources. Some people have speculated that they let humans survive as "farms", but realistically they have killed off far too many people - at least in the LA area, that we know of - for that to work.
It's an issue of escalation. Another way to look at it is law enforcement versus criminal elements (although in this case, one side is more clearly the good guys). Cops carry sidearms, criminals start using rifles. Cops start carrying rifles, criminals start using ballistic armor.
I agree with what you or someone said earlier in this thread - it has gotten so bad in LA because the survivors refused to roll over and die, not because they necessarily "caused" anything to happen. In my mind, neither side is at "fault" here. They are both just doing what they have to do to survive, which happens to include the extinction of the other side.
Also if you were a larger male, you would in turn be a larger zombie....... The zombie's seem to behave with a pack/hive mentality...... and generally in those cases it is the biggest specimen that leads a pack or hive........Quote:
Originally Posted by Kc
*** edit -- females can also be aggressive and lead packs and all that good stuff too!!!! Don't throw your high heels at me!!! :D ***
I had some time to think about the latest episode. Yes, it is going to be a straight 50/50 coin flip end in my opinion. Even if Ink has got his next little annihilation toy ready, he seems to act more and more defensively. Moreover, it appears that he has changed his strategy by creating a single yet very powerful new creature instead of relying on a bunch of more but less powerful little ones. As both sides are inevitably run out low on available resources, there might be a real chance to defeat Ink.
- He is attached to a certain place
- I guess sweat bottles never stop to confuse the zombie senses up to a point where they will even start attacking Ink
- Saul is like Wolverine, always right in the middle of the action, always wounded, never killed
- Skittles will be back
- Victor still has to get his beserker mode scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4bPjVXvK-A
The only remaining unknown variable is Scratch.
I believe what makes these "zombies" super dangerous is the fact that the story really is about survival and their innate ability to evolve with every situation. Nature is living proof of that, except these new creatures are doing it at an alarming pace. They have adapted to just about every situation in order to ensure their survival while eliminating the one obstacle that could keep them from doing so,...HUMANS. Point well made about law enforcement and criminals, but you need to look no further than our very own military and the evolution of the "gun".Quote:
Originally Posted by FenixArc
Quite right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Z Sniper
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/rocket_packs.png
What i don't get is where people keep mentioning the Zeds eating each other. I do not remember any of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by FenixArc
The big pile of bodies in the arena were not zombies, but killed humans. The flesh was rotting, but only as a regular body decomposes….
maybe i am missing something
And you thought all Victor was good for was yelling "Ay Dios Mio!!" and throwing cheap cologne at zombie........ He's got some Smerts too!!! :nik:Quote:
Originally Posted by Z Sniper
I wonder if the haze-filled Morgue is going to serve a purpose story-wise? I mean, it's pretty much a death trap.
Was that all the zombies or just the Behemoths??? I remember him saying something like that now when they were in the water tower..... Good catch though!!!! :nik:Quote:
Originally Posted by Verse
I am pretty sure he meant everyone. If I remember it was inside the conversation about the Behemoths. That they could smell the Rations inside and that is why they burst in. Angel said something like "Yeah. We found the crewing cans open" (The regulars on the supply run where they found Burt) then Skittle replied about them eating anything including each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gnex
Ahh ok, thank you for clearing that up :-DQuote:
Originally Posted by Verse
Yeah, HUMANS, the only ones who excel at picking up the pace when it comes to fucking up things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Z Sniper
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/4_5_degrees.png
oh wow!!! I'm a "Builder" now!! YAY!!!! :o
Congrats! How do those titles even work? I've never quite understood all of that and haven't bothered to look into it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gnex
It's based on post-count. That's all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jannit
I think it has to do with your posts count Jannit, but don't quote me on that....... Maybe every 100 posts it changes?!?!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jannit
I don't know I never notice it until it changes..... LOL
*** edit -- Or what KC said above!!! *** :D
Yeah! Take THAT Tanya!Quote:
Originally Posted by Eviebae
OK, any guesses as to what Saul heard underground?
Sounds like a little one, but bigger, deeper and raspier.
Maybe burrows under ground like a giant worm.
Missing zombies.
Mad Scientist at play.
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/i/20...24-d6k1gh7.jpg
That's just wrong!
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The changest are a sliding scale. The next level takes more. 1,500 for the LX Destroyer I haveQuote:
Originally Posted by Gnex
If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes (hint: think sled dogs)Quote:
Originally Posted by 7oddisdead
Not sure I 100% followed what you were getting at with guns and the military. Are you talking about escalation between military and civilian arms? Or between our military and other countries'?Quote:
Originally Posted by Z Sniper
Well damn. That's pretty cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Storm
Ancient.
Means protection.
Assumed that all humans would react to it.
I don't care if it's supernatural, I like it. Cool idea.
Gonna disagree with Tanya. They are not responsible for L.A. being a zombie-land Mutual Assured Destruction hell hole. The reason things are worse in L.A. compared to the rest of the world is that Ink is in L.A. He is the variable that other locations are missing. Bolder and Fort Irwin did a much better job of protecting themselves without the Ink menace. Only when their locales where contaminated with Inklings, did they experience L.A.'s tribulations.
Ink is not some sort of Godzilla-like balancing force of nature. He is a self determining agent, like humans. It's the difference between natural and artificial selection. Natural selection is one of the driving mechanisms behind evolution. It is blind, reactionary, and it lacks any teleological qualities. It's like water that fills the shape what ever container it occupies. Nature isn't good or evil. It just is. We can marvel at what pleases or terrifies us about nature, but it isn't trying to be our friend or our enemy.
What Ink is doing is artificial selection. More accurately, Ink is manipulating nature. To do this requires choice, decisions, intentions. Therefore, we can judge Ink on moral grounds. He might feel that he needs to protect himself, but so the the human survivors.
Those weren't on the doors, or anything they saw. That was something you saw, not the characters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eviebae
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Originally Posted by Kc
Isn't his M-16 missing a magazine?