Quick! Someone run the bite under a cold tap! Fetch a hot water bottle! And some modest pain relief! We can not let Datu die!... Tho there is a big well to push Cj down....
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Quick! Someone run the bite under a cold tap! Fetch a hot water bottle! And some modest pain relief! We can not let Datu die!... Tho there is a big well to push Cj down....
It seems fairly obvious to me that he *wouldn't* want to see or speak to Hope.Quote:
Originally Posted by nikvoodoo
There's the dignity side of things- Datu would want to protect her from having to see him in the scratched and bleeding state he is in now, but especially from her having to see him if he turns. He would want her to remember him as Datu, not as a raving flesh-eating monster.
And final good-byes can be horribly hard and painful. Some people (myself included) would prefer to not have to go through them at all, and let the person remember you as you were.
The overwhelming thought that occurs to me when I look at the cover art is:
I wonder if behemoths wear pants, and if so, how do they find them in their size?
I swear my brain works differently to others at times.
Wow, I found the non-speaking Angel scene very powerful. I hope we get a flashback at sometime in the show to hear him again, but I think that scene worked really well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Storm
The cover art sure could be the water works. I remeber hearing the catwalks. It has been so many months I wonder if Mchael remembers it differently than what we heard. I could see it performed with different lines, but I could just as easily see his story narrating as a voice over into something new.
Speculatin: Randy has speaking lines. I do not think KC would want to do that whole scene as a narration. Michael yells Randy after his surgery while unconscious. That means something affected him pretty deeply. Not just seeing a biter wearing a Randy Name Tag.
They can't carry stuff in their pockets - hands are too big :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ZombieWildfire
I thought the same while looking at the artwork. Also, I swear I see a Behemoth woody (no pun intended). Maybe that's part of the reason that Micheal hasn't shared is story. :hsugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by ZombieWildfire
Seriously, monkey business aside, that thing looks like a giant gibbon. Some male primates exhibit an erection during agonistic behavior, when they are facing down a threat. Not saying they're turned primates, but maybe the Zombies' behavior is more primal than modern humans.
All the 'roids would have probably shrunk everything, but still... The thought of behemoth crown jewels dangling about is rather worrying. Surely someone who had seen a behemoth would have commented on this?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor
But then, if they are wearing pants, they'd be too big to just find them. So that leaves me with an image of a behemoth trying to thread a needle and sew together some trousers.
Zoinks
Um, so I was going to reference that eye of the storm is often a calm place before it gets crazy again. Datu might die and this is the calm section?
So, was going to lighten the mood some. Now, this takes on a whole new meaning with WItchDoctors post. But, like Nik says Threads do what threads do. I had this thought before hand, lol...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W6as8oVcuM&feature
Well, the Hulk always seem to fit just fine in Doctor Banners pants. Its almost X-mas. Lots of magic in the area to maintain a PG13 rating lol...
Beat me too the Incredible Hulk reference. But hey, somebody put clothes on the Inklings. On that note, no body mentioned he other Inklings as being larger like the one at Raydon Labs. I wonder if they all changed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grognaurd
Bruce Banner hasn't open an Big and Tall store in the area, so you probably right they have to make it on there own. But you guys are right why hasn't anyone said anything about that? You would think the wisecracking Vic or Puck would have said something.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZombieWildfire
Datu doesn't need to speak with Hope because Datu is not going to die......
Look at everything Datu has survived......... The Tower, The Water Works, The Arena, Fort Irwin, Boulder, etc, etc, etc........
Datu will not Die, because Datu is a Survivor!!!! "We're Alive, A Story of Survival!!!"
Datu is resourceful...... Datu will make it!!!
Maybe Datu can rig up a machine to clean his blood or something???
Maybe Datu can get an injection of Saul/Tanya Blood to fight the infection???
Maybe Datu's body will naturally fight the infection with no help at all???
Maybe Burt and Riley hear everything on the radio and show up with a cure they have found in the weeks spent hunting Ink???
As Datu himself has even told us....... "There's still hope...there's always hope"
Can't lose two Jay's in one chapter............ so Datu is good!!! :yay:
The part when he was begging Jay to kill him reminded me of the scene in Predator when Arnie is shouting "Come on kill me!" to the predator has led me to a logical conclusion:
Datu is Arnold Schwarzenegger
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Originally Posted by Gnex
Hey, there is something i have not thought about.....
What if Tanya tries giving Datu a blood transfusion from a healthy person? Could that drop his K18 levels enough to slow the infection, or even stop the infection all together?
Maybe push through a little meds as well, and it could possibly be a cure for slow turners.
Is WA addicting or what!
Someone get Gnex a nice hot, sweet cup of tea. He's clearly still in the denial stage of grief.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gnex
The next stage is anger *cowers in a corner* :bunker:
As Tanya stated you can't change a frog back into a tadpole. He just above stage one and that might had work if he was still below it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TacticalJHP
We seen this before, where the Angel support group? We have another one.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZombieWildfire
There is no need to be in denial when you know that Good will eventually win the Day over evil!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by ZombieWildfire
Datu is good!!!! CJ is evil......... If anyone will be exiting in the near future it will be CJ......
Tanya is a crazy person........ How do we know she isn't just trying to quickly write Datu off so she can have more Zombie bodies to run tests on?!?!? Tanya better watch out before she gets put on the CJ list..........Quote:
Originally Posted by UndeadSweeper
she can't see him... so no problem thereQuote:
Originally Posted by ZombieWildfire
I reckon her sight will return just before he dies - fulfilling a "dying wish", if you will...
(Plus it'll make his death all the more sadder)
Don't say Datu is already dead. HE ISN'T DEAD YET DAMNIT! Poor Datu....Quote:
Originally Posted by Elisa
Sure, go make it even more depressing..... *sigh*Quote:
Originally Posted by tonyhind86
Angel didn't die either............................. He was murdered!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooer
He won't fix the pump in time, everyone at the colony will die. Racked with grief, Michael and co. will participate in a mass suicide and the show will end on a sombre theme.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooer
This might be sound tinfoily - but why did Jay not attack Datu? Did Jay identify Datu as a zombie? Does that mean that Datu might serve as some sort of zombified stealth individual? This would open the way for Datu to go where nobody who has not been bitten yet can go, would it not?
Well. I'm.....just gunna..... (walks away from computer, head dropped, unsure what to do next) How very.........depressing. You should be a writer!Quote:
Originally Posted by tonyhind86
I'm also available for weddings and birthday parties :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Gooer
I posted this on the episode 3 thread but I'll throw it up here as it's being asked and may lead to some sort of possible answer...Quote:
Originally Posted by YetAnotherBloodyCheek
Okay, this is my interpretation of the little ones attack at the windmill and how it played out.
Glen is immediately attacked and killed. Jay and Datu open fire possibly striking but not killing the little one. Next Jay is attacked but not killed. Datu gets a couple more shots off but is soon firing blanks. Datu is struck down by the little one, causing the scratches to the neck and face dropping his pistol as it skitters along the ground. The little one approaches Datu and picks him up but is attacked and killed by Jay and Datu is dropped back to the ground. Jay approaches Datu and we hear him scream as he’s bitten by Jay. Jay then runs off from Datu but not leaving the scene entirely. The beeping sound is from the windmill as some component on it is failing and giving off a beep, maybe the pump burning out. Next episode, Datu yells for Jay to kill him. But I think what made Jay not kill Datu, only biting to turn him, is what keeps him away despite Datu’s pleading. Datu then turns the Mata-gun on Jay, killing him.
I don't think the Mata-gun was used to kill the little one. It's pretty clear to me that I don't hear it fire, until Datu kills Jay. I think that Jay used a tool, which made a wound that looked similiar to that made by the Mata-gun.
(Jay may not have been fully turned thereby still having enough conscience remaining to attack the Little one and move away from Datu after only one bite. Maybe thats why Datu is turning as slowly as he is....or he was fully turned, he sounds like it, but still had some control, or there was some other function at play to just turn and not eat)
I'm not entirely convinced about the theory of "the weak strain of infection". Usually, with most zombie-based films, it wouldn't matter how much infection you get, you're still fucked. Not saying it's the same with We're Alive, as each story is unique, but the idea of it doesn't seem right; it doesn't make it as scary as it first was, with only minor scratches and bites don't infect, just major damage.
Well ... Angel would have died anyway. That's true. But Scratch shooting him ... Well, the way she did it, had little to do with Mercy. That was just cold blood, 'cause he successfully withstood her interrogation ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooer
About the seriousness of the infection I agree with you 100%. No matter how much or how hard someone is hit, he is infected. So the important part of the story would be: what specific traits or qualities does someone need to have in order to be a slow-turner or a near-immune turner like Saul and Tanya are? Is it a specific factor within your blood, or a certain immune-reaction-complex, or maybe something else?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooer
Yea, i guess. The way in which we hear it, makes it sound more brutal than it should of beenQuote:
Originally Posted by LiamKerrington
I was saying earlier if it could be something with skin pigment or color. It seems that that Saul, Tanya and Datu all have that in common. Could it be Melanin? Do melanin and Keratin 18 have any connection?Quote:
Originally Posted by LiamKerrington
Wow. Just.... wow. What an episode.
People have covered a lot of ground for the episode in these 20 pages and some really good stuff too.
I'm left with a few things:
1) Datu and turning - obviously it's slower than we have seen others. It's been hours, I believe, since the bite and Datu is at stage 1 levels with no obvious external signs. That's slower than a lot we have seen but not so slow as to say he will just stop a la Tanya/Saul. The waiting is the hardest part. But, like Grog has said, if there ain't no dead body there ain't nobody dead.....
2) Little One #9 and Jay - #9 obviously killed Glen. I assume he turned Jay too. I couldn't make out another zombie in the scene at the end of 40 but I'm not sure. So, who used the mata-gun on #9? Jay or Datu? Who bit Datu? Was it Jay? Hmmm. Anyway, I get the feeling that Jay knows that Datu is infected and that's why he doesn't move in for the kill. But does Jay know Datu is infected because of some bio-chemical change zombies can detect? Or is it the observation that "I just saw that guy get bit so he'll be one of us soon"?
3) K18 - Tanya's theory of infection raising K18 levels is proven again. Now CJ and others have wind of it. What happens next....
Well, seeing the chapter artwork, I'm pulled back to the water works. I'm wondering if we don't get a recount of the story from Michael (and finally hear the broken arm story) and after it's over, someone (CJ) points out that Michael was probably exposed and might be a slow turner. That sparks the idea that Tanya's test be used on a bunch of people - Michael first. Then we find that Michael's K18 levels are elevated too.... Dun dunn dunnnn!
Whatever happens, I was definitely gutted when I heard that Datu basically has a death sentence and then the digging graves things was a punch to the groin after that. I think Kc picked the right character to have this kind of moment in the story, regardless of the live/die/turn outcome.
Damn fine episode and I can't wait for the next one (as always but maybe more so for this one!)