Is the Colony on it's last days now???
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Is the Colony on it's last days now???
So I have had a little more time to soak in what I just listened to... did a partial re-listen.
17 pages in one day... not bad gang, not bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsx2vdn7gpY
Through it all, I had hope. Hope that they would figure it out. I had a rather blue skies attitude to thinking about it. I would often be wringing my hands during episodes, thinking C'Mon... c'mon, just a bit more you're close. You can figure it out. But there's so much more you can do... you can figure that out too.
This however, was a swift, solid kick in the crotch.
Were I there, I'd want to say "F*ck it, I'm Out," grab my bindlestick and head of to the northern territories of Canada.
At this point, I'm pretty sure Jay and Glenn are dead... and it is easier to think that Datu is dead too. I think the alternatives are worse.
He'd be better off dead.
I can't help but get the feeling that this is what is going to happen. He will stand at the gate, screaming for them to NOT open it, I only came back to tell you what happened... as he turns right in front of them.
Done:
Brevard Fault Zone, runs parallel to the Southeast borders of Cobb and Douglas Counties and the Chattahoochee River; cuts across Fulton County and through North-West Metro Atlanta. More HERE, HERE and HERE. A very old and seemingly dormant fault, (last movement ~185 My ago) it seems to be a geological mess. There is dispute as to what type it is/was. The hallmarks of very different types of fault line activity are present in the area, muddying the question of identifying its characteristics. I'll also add that it runs through one of the most populated regions in the southeast.
I still need more time.
So, I have no idea what happened. It sounded like either Glen or Jay were turned and Datu is up on the pump? Or maybe he ran to the fenced in structure. Which brings me to the next point...Keep your areas clear of debris that can be hidden behind or, AT LEAST BUILD A FENCE AROUND ONE OF YOUR MOST PRECIOUS RESOURCES!!!
*Ahem*
I can't hear the "get up" or "you're alive." It all sounds like snarls to me cuz my headphones aren't the best. If that's what it says though, stands to reason that at least one of them was turned.
I loved the give and take between Tanya and Victor--especially when Kelly and Michael showed up.
Tanya: "Yeah, I read the article Kelly found before we left...for here-this-morning.
So... was Datu dying?
One thing I haven't read. I know everyone's focused on what happened late in the episode and that is all yet to be known and tinfoil hat territory. Ilistened a lot and am still piecing together what I think. I just wanted to mention how damn funny I thought the scene in the mortuary was when Michael and co first showed up. It was like a couple of stoner kids about to get caught. Does my jacket still smell like that place and hiding stuff and just their overly excited way of nervously saying hey when they walked in haha. I about died. One thing Tanya said about the video was •what happens when thy turn you and you are already a monster• it gets me. I don't believe ink was actually involved in starting all of this by any means at this point no matter how smart. But I do believe somehow he was chemically altering not only him self but others as well. Modifying himself through out time with chemicals or what have you may have been the change in the strain of this "virus" which has made him and others different then the normal biters.
Just had a thought. It's late and I'm tired so this might be random and semi-incoherent; but what if the thing that kept the Zombies semi normal was actually a tattoo? The fresher the ink or the more of it in your skin the less you are affected? Ink' tats are fresh and cover his body, so he kept most of 'himself' intact when turning. What if some of the others that were 'slow turners' or ones we are thinking are immune have tattoos as well? Do Saul and Tanya have any? A lot of military guys do. Does Datu? We don't know.
You our might think well it's LA, a million people have tattoos, but what if most of them got eaten rather than the zeds trying to turn them? Maybe there are only some that have tattoos and got turned and maybe those are some of the special ones? The disease interacts with them differently? The ink isn't just in your skin, some makes its way into your blood so the ink is in your body once you have a tattoo.
Maybe be something about that is why they seem so obsessed with tattoos and Randy gets one on his forehead and the little ones have numbers etc?
Anyway, just some :tinfoil: rambings... carry on
I like your theory... And you just reminded me of this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2C36O0Yxoc
I don't think Michael's mad at Vic. The conversation they had Michael sounded more sad and resigned - Vic made some (undefined, undiscissed) mistake and now, much as he likes him, Michael can't take the risk of having him out in the field. I don't think there's any anger there - maybe there was at the time, but not now.
When Michael arrived at the mortuary, Victor said "Hey Mikey, que paso". He doesn't like being called Mikey - maybe he's a bit more touchy about it than we realise?
Michael is also calling Victor "Vic" which used to really tick him off. I think Victor decided to do what he thought was right while outside the wire and almost endangered peoples lives. Like someone else said, Michael likes that he is in control of his soldiers and they look to him as their leader.
At the end of the day I think them calling each other "Mikey" and "Vic" just shows there is no courtesy between the two.
Just catching up on the forum posts today. was too shell shocked after last night's episode to keep on top of the posts!
... still thinking of poor Datu, out in the rain all alone, bleeding everywhere. And possibly turning...
I bet his sales pitch would be amazing. I'd be thrilled if Otto Sturcke did one just for a giggle :)
I'm really confused. I think I enjoyed this part. But st the same time feel abit meh about it. I feel the attack was abit rushed? Only a couple of minuetes of blood letting then a load of confused noises. And Datu crying? How did Datu survive? Did he scramble up the mill? The Mata gun? Epic fail? Cj rushing things seems abit out of place? Am I right in thinking I herd Ink? I swear it was his growl at the end? How many little ones where there? Did Glenn and red shirt turn? Or did they get munched? One thing that irritated me. Is that we don't have much time in this episode. And we have to 're listen to a snippet from last week's? I love this show. But feel like I've been slapped in the face. Spun around and pushed into a freezing cold pond. Does any one else feel the same?
But this is like holding a roast dinner to a homeless person!!! Ahhh not fun. And I bet he's going to change the story to Burt and Rilley
Yep, I'm expecting Burt & Riley next too. Which means it'll be January before we learn Datu's fate, unless B&R return to the colony towards the end of Chapter 41. :omgomg:
They should totally make a quick 45 second ad like they did with "Locked and Loaded"!
ON A SIDE NOTE...
did anyone ever see that movie "The Good Shepherd"?
all of this audio analyzing of the last bit of 40-3 is making me think about those scenes where they are breaking down every little sound and detail on an audio recording. fun stuff, but time consuming.
I seen a dumbass Zombie movie once where they had a few smart ones.. The farmed humans. Once they got to a certain point they ate them. Yes some sick human taught them that to keep them at bay.. I can not recall the movie for anything.
I am still struck by all the names. We are late in the game for more mysteries, but time and time again we have seen names turn into people later in the story. One of my predictions for Season 3 was we would meet CJ. Other examples, Saul says his mom lives in Annihiem (spelling?) we meet her. Angel's girlfriend. Even after we meet her changed, she is again mentioned, that the zombies dug her up. This makes no sense to me. Five million dead in LA and they are compelled to dig up someone who has been dead and buried a couple of months.
Samantha's daughter was named Hope. Sean. Randy, etc.
Maybe KC's style has changed to confuse us, but I love call backs. Even obscure characters like Max. Max is seen with the water truck, but it is not him when Victor does the Trojan horse. But, we hear that Max is suppose to help Hope get from the hospital. Then, we have Max with actual lines as he helps CJ. He comes back again because Tanya calls him about the Earthquake, right? Why am I hung up on Max. Here is a character that could have been substituted by another more established character, but Max becomes an actual character that is trusted by both CJ and Tanya.
So, back to Austin, is he really just linked to another case or part of Inks file? If it is a different case, is it tied to Ink's sentencing? It was a plea deal.
Ok, back to Victor. Michael is really unforgiving. He does not want Victor with him, but in chapter 40 part 1, Michael is quick to dismiss Kelly's concern about rushing and the investigation. Michael says no one got hurt... Another mystery...
I thinking Datu is just crying since he just saw two people killed in front of him and he may have been injury. And the beep is coming from the windmill/water pump.
The wait for the next chapter is going to be painful. I react like this chick every time there's a two week break:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v-33jcEDk4
Victor has saved the day more than once. He saved Michael, Kelly and Pegs when they first arrive at the colony, even at the expense of his own best friend Fernando, but you don't hear Vic kicking them to the curb for it. Victor breaks Michael from jail and is the only one that helps them escape. Vic saves Saul when He gets his but handed to him by a little Asian chick named CJ. Rather than rolling over and taking the easy way out during the zombie war at the Colony, Victor pull the most bad ace move to date and sticks a zombie in the eye with a syringe. Even with Tanya at ground zero Vic does his best Jaws re-enactment withthe air tank to save them from the little one.
Victor has a track record of bad assery and stepping up to the plate when the finkle matter is flying. This is why I think the issue between Vic and Mikey is more personal. Even considering screw ups that get people killed... Pegs with the pot, Lizzy lets in Pinstripes... stuff has happened that was forgiven. Could be wrong, but that is the overwhelming vibe I get.
another observation...
in the earlier episodes, i originally thought "hey, Datu's mata-gun is setting the stage for a long-term solution to the ammo shortage!"
but now i can see it was more for the allowance of not needing a guntruck, thus the ensuing demise of Glen and Jay.
heck, even at the start of the chapter there's the hope that the Windmill and solar panels will help solve the gas shortage, but now it seems that's been halted as well.
i'm feeling a bit fatalistic and could easily see a large sum of people being killed or the Colony overrun.
I have always thought Michael as a person who feels he can do no wrong. He lies all the time. He always excuses away his mistakes, or tries to put them on someone else (even down to leaving his jambalaya packaging on the ground) I really am starting to think this is going to be his downfall in the end. Perhaps the reason for people turning on him? I think he lives so much in his delusional Michael world that he feels everyone is alive solely because of him. He never really acknowledges when people save his butt (Victor in the colony anyone?) I don't know if it is the direction KC wants people to go with Michael, but he has continued to become one of my least favorite "good guys". I am not sure he will ever take Pegs place for number one person I don't like... But he went to a very close second in this episode... Michael needs to let go of whatever in the past made him cold and only caring on a superficial level and realize they are ALL in this together... Or he may have no one but himself to save....
I think you are right. We have spent so long with so few attacks and so much focus on investigations and such that we have been lulled into a state of comfort and relaxation. We are being rudely reminded of the fact that this is still a zombie apocalypse and that we are still in a life or death fight for survival in this story.
Something I've yet to see mentioned, and if it has been...apologies.
we've kinda glossed over the fact that Kelly brings up inks inks prognosis he did not have any signs of paranoid schizophrenia prior to his murdering people thing (that's a thing, right?). What kind of totally delusional things could he have said to get that sort of diagnosis without any prior history? Also to add to that and to take away from the natural occurance thing (ring of fire, fault lines,etc). Bill Roberts may have been an uber genius, but none of his credentials have anything to do with geological studies. Sure, we could go with the "a buddy told him about that" angle...but that's speculation. I think its an important thing to note at this time. I'm personally not ready to lay down a crackpot approved theory on the whole mess, but its getting pretty close to that point.
and the datu scene still bugs me, its really hard to tell just what the eff happened there. The only thing we can determine is Glenn and jay are gone. Glenns death would be enough to get datu all weepy....gotta remember Glenn and datu have been working VERY closely for a while now. As much as I honestly feel like datus death(or turning as he returns to the colony) could help the story along, after a few more relistens I don't get the feeling that datu was bit or scratched or anything.
the mechanical sounds at the end also are kinda driving me nuts...i can't tell if that's the windmill powering down, or the generator...truthfully once they got the windmill and solar panels running, they, and the pumps should be fairly self sustaining and maintenance free. The only thing I could see is if the amp load generated from the windmill is too low without the boost it would get from the solar panels as well. Personal experience tells me that a pump with too low of a current draw will will burn up, and fairly quickly at that. If that's the case then the "solar windmill" was doomed to fail from the get go, and also pretty stupid to switch to during a storm, but that engineers for ya...trouble shoot the shit out of something then try to install at the worst possible time(least the ones I've known).
that's it from me this ep., maybe
Todd out
I think there was 1 zombie.
The zombie attacked Glenn.
Then the zombie turned to Jay.
Jay kills the original zombie but not before getting bit
Glenn is turning.....
Jay is turning.....
Jay starts moving to attack Datu.
Zombie Glenn still has enough smarts to know what is going on.
Just as Zombie Jay starts to attack Datu, Zombie Glenn moves in and kills him.
Zombie Glenn leaves Datu and runs off into the distance.
I really hope this is the case..
I listened to it late last night for the first time and could barely breath through it...so it'll need a few more listen to today.
I think they're all dead. The mechanical sound I took as the windmill failing, and Datu as he was dying was anguished to see this happening knowing that they failed. That ripping sound I took as happening to Datu, but it could have been Jay or Glen. Then I thought I heard the z'd running off?? Maybe not. I kept listening for any sounds that might indicate someone turning and to my ears didn't hear anything like that. I don't think there was enough time yet in that scene, but we still have to see the outcome of it all...and if any of them turn...which I'm betting will be Datu if any.
Heres another thought. Cj should NEVER send techys out EVER! She just dooms them all!:zombieglomp:
My prediction for Chapter 41: We catch up to Burt & Riley, and KC ruins Christmas by having us go crazy wondering what happened to R2Da2. Anyone remember "The gate's stuck! Get the guns inside!"?
I'm thinking it'll be 2014 before we hear what happened to Datu, but I've really missed Burt's voice