Chapter 38-1

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Originally Posted by Hanniekuma

Marunong kang mag tagalog? Ka galling. tang ina!

and having say that..If I hear Datu say " tang ina" I'll freak the heck out. LOL

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Hindi, Naiintindihan ko ng kaunti Tagalog. Pimsluer is a sloooooooooooowwwwwwwww learning system. Fluent Tagalog in 30 days may a$$. I'm grateful that the Tagalog speakers here in Va. are kind and patient with me.

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Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor

Hindi, Naiintindihan ko ng kaunti Tagalog. Pimsluer is a sloooooooooooowwwwwwwww learning system. Fluent Tagalog in 30 days may a$$. I'm grateful that the Tagalog speakers here in Va. are kind and patient with me.

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wanna know something funny.....

English is the primary language in the homeland. I was taught English before Tagalog...and I still had that messed up off the boat accent. LOL It's gone now because I went to school here, but there are time I sound like Datu.

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Originally Posted by Hanniekuma

Depending on the context, it could be the equivalent of "son" after saying something with feeling, it's a curse word...especially if said completely.." Putang ina mo"....so it can mean " son of a b" or " mofo" or it could add "EPIC" to a sentiment. So , if Datu were to get flustered and said the slang " tang ina" LOL

My parents would say it under their breath all the time after telling me to " take out the garbage...tangina mo" lol so I knew they were aggravated lol.

okay that's Flip 101 y'all.

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OMG. The folk at UrbanDictionary.com really want to get someone's head smashed in.

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tangina


Filipino slang for "Excuse me". It's use is most appropriate during meals.
Tangina everybody, I have an announcement...
Tangina waiter, is our food ready?

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Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor

OMG. The folk at UrbanDictionary.com really want to get someone's head smashed in.

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OH goodness...

Hello,

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Originally Posted by Unit9014

The 4 months before we can get to what Michael wants to do. We learned from the vote that between those who voted and those who weren't allowed to vote there are at least 70-80 people in the Colony if not more right? What work really needs to be done that the master planner CJ couldn't accomplish with 70-80 people in just a few weeks? Seems a ridiculous concept.

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Welcome to the show and the forum! That alone earned you your first rep from me.

As for your question: Are there still 70-80 people in the Colony - auf the coup by Gatekeeper, the taking-over by the Mallers, the rebellion, and the last battle against the zombos I would expect less than 70-80 people. I may be wrong, though, because maybe I missed the mentioning of those numbers on the show.
edit: scbubba did the maths in the WND 58 thread; so consider my thoughts on the numbers as invalid; there may be like 80-100 peops around ... /edit

And even if there are so many people remaining, I think you should consider a few things:
-) a couple of the remaining people are more or less badly wounded, so during the first days (maybe even weeks depending on the type of bruises and trauma) they are not available for any work;
-) also not everyone might be suitable for heavy duties on fixing the fortifications; important fact: the area of the Colony is quite huge, and if CJ plans a similar solid fortification with what she did in Dunbar, "fixing" the Colony's walls is more than just filling the holes;
-) finally: besides the high priority tasks there are day to day activities like medical treatment, food-service, laundry service (Kelly, anyone?), garden duty etc., which need to be attended as well. So 80+ people are not around to work on the priority-shit only ... So 3-4 months didn't strike me as unlikely ...

Best wishes!
Liam

if we are to consider the colony numbers at 70. (lets go with the lower number for the sake of argument). now, lets knock the numbers down by twenty percent based on injury. 56. now lets account for night watch on the walls/ gates, these would not be totally available during the proper working hours. a safe number here given size could be around 12 (two per post, six separate posts).44...those 44 would include CJ herself, Michael, glenn, Tanya, so drop that down to 40 non critical people.

so from tales from my father and brothers work in the concrete yard. it takes roughly 20 separate laborers the better part of a week and the proper equipment to form a bridge beam(think a concrete beam 80 feet long by 10 by10 square). yes. each is person/group of dudes is broken into a "chain" , and they do complete 7-10 beams per week...but that's beside the point. while the colonists are not building bridge beams, they are likely working on a similar type of project. while I do feel like 4 months is a bit of a stretch, I don't completely know that its that far from the truth.

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Originally Posted by 7oddisdead

if we are to consider the colony numbers at 70. (lets go with the lower number for the sake of argument). now, lets knock the numbers down by twenty percent based on injury. 56. now lets account for night watch on the walls/ gates, these would not be totally available during the proper working hours. a safe number here given size could be around 12 (two per post, six separate posts).44...those 44 would include CJ herself, Michael, glenn, Tanya, so drop that down to 40 non critical people.

so from tales from my father and brothers work in the concrete yard. it takes roughly 20 separate laborers the better part of a week and the proper equipment to form a bridge beam(think a concrete beam 80 feet long by 10 by10 square). yes. each is person/group of dudes is broken into a "chain" , and they do complete 7-10 beams per week...but that's beside the point. while the colonists are not building bridge beams, they are likely working on a similar type of project. while I do feel like 4 months is a bit of a stretch, I don't completely know that its that far from the truth.

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Good info. Seeing 7odd's break down of the numbers and how much a group of laborers can get done AND thinking back to how CJ has stuff laid out, I can just imagine her have a Gantt Chart of the Colony work items in her hands when overseeing the work outside. She is in full micro-mode project manager character.

Makes me wonder if she was a project manager or something similar for a general contractor in the LA area before Zday. Planning without actually doing, in a lot of cases.

Anyway, as for 4 months, she quickly cuts that in half when talking to Michael saying that they are making good progress. She may just be feeding him a line, though....

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Originally Posted by Grognaurd

It is storycraft. Let's say Skittles just happened to be a mental patient and say Lizzy was a therapist who studied in a mental hospital durring her phd program. Maybe Lizzy could get more out of Skittles since he might already feel comfortable with her. If Lizzy stays in the colony, I do not think skittles is going to show up any time soon asking to borrow a cup of sugar. So, the story would require Lizzy to be outside the colony for this to occur. Now for good measure, toss in a criminally insane dude covered with tattoos who seems to like tattooing little zombies so they grow up to be great big killing machines. Oh, and do not forget that this was done in a hospital called Canes and the plot driving the story is Fratracide; killing of a brother.

As long as i am here, I think Tanya has it wrong. The teeth are not serially replaced like a shark, those were the baby teeth; hyper accelerated growth, essentially growing from toddlers to over six feet tall in a only a few months.

Then, I get handed a tinfoil hat and I start listening for crows to have with my humble pie...

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Taking away this ~~~> :tinfoil:

You should wear this instead.
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The teeth are not serially replaced like a shark, those were the baby teeth; hyper accelerated growth, essentially growing from toddlers to over six feet tall in a only a few months.

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Also, #2 more than likely had under developed breast due to sexual immaturity.
#5 is easily identifiable by the missing arm which shows that they grow from little to tall with in current time span.

I'm still stumped on TOWTM teaching them to talk or dressing them (seriously, they have modesty?). We know he didn't bother combing their hair. #2 had 6 inch dreads.

But don't forget Kelly, the Lawyer. Criminal cases anyone?

Since you won't be needing the tinfoil hat, let me wear it for a second. Maybe Hope was just thinking in terms of herself or maybe there is a broader meaning, but when she talks to Datu she says something to the effect of 'where ever I go it's just a matter of time.'
Her mom, redheaded Samantha was snatched by TOWTM's goons and delivered to him.
Red hair - green eyes. TOWTM has green eyes. So does Samantha.

I'm gonna stop here because the only other stuff I could come up with are Green eyes - envy - Cain envious of Able - Cain Hospital - Able = Can do - Datu can do anything...
OK, back to bed I go.

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Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor

Since you won't be needing the tinfoil hat, let me wear it for a second. Maybe Hope was just thinking in terms of herself or maybe there is a broader meaning, but when she talks to Datu she says something to the effect of 'where ever I go it's just a matter of time.'
Her mom, redheaded Samantha was snatched by TOWTM's goons and delivered to him.
Red hair - green eyes. TOWTM has green eyes. So does Samantha.

I'm gonna stop here because the only other stuff I could come up with are Green eyes - envy - Cain envious of Able - Cain Hospital - Able = Can do - Datu can do anything...
OK, back to bed I go.

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Mind. Blown!

I think 70 is way way low. Marcus tells Michael there are hundreds at the colony. Was Marcus lying? Maybe. Have they literally lost hundreds of people in the coups? Greater than 75% casualties?

Me, I am in the much more sinister camp. The colony treated people like crap, CJ did also and the mallers kept slaves. I think they have continued those ways. There maybe 80+ of the ruling class, but I think there are still a lot more peasants available to say jobs done.

Saul and victor find a maller and (s)he has a bunch of IDs. I do not think they are fake IDs. I think they literally are IDs of the slaves owned by that maller.

As for how much does CJ know. I am sure we have all had Screamers for bosses. They micromanage everything. A weld may be placed at five feet with a tolerance of plus or minus three inches. Maybe you are about to lock it down right at five, but just to to be dick and to put on a leadership show the boss will scream bloody murder about how that will never hold and have you move it to five feet one inch.

Some leadership is about showmanship and power. CJ may be awesome smart and/or maybe she is just putting on a good show. If Michael does not know shit about welding, he might think she really does know her shit. However, She brags about her proficiency with a sword and is a total spaz.

Like I said, maybe she is awesome, but leadership is planning and execution. Eisenhower taught me Planning is everything, but THE Plan means nothing. One must have to be able to drop the plan and instantly go to B and onto C right in the middle of the operation.

I do not think CJ can do that. Period. Saul cannot plan shit, but he can spontaneously react to adverse situations and recover. The .50 cal won't take the whole nine yards. Screw it, feed it one round at a time. CJ would cry about it and blame the equipment. Saul gets the job done.

Train your people well and give them autonomy to react spontaneously. Teach them to fear you and watch your house of cards collapse the minute your plan makes first contact as they clog up the chain of command requesting new orders.

Datu FIX! vs. That weld will never hold!

Really, CJ? Really? Maybe she is right, but the character who knows her best, Saul, says "... because you know everything..." when he is operating as a combat medic and knows she is bleeding out.

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Originally Posted by thisonegirl

Mind. Blown!

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Ditto

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Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor

Maybe Hope was just thinking in terms of herself or maybe there is a broader meaning, but when she talks to Datu she says something to the effect of 'where ever I go it's just a matter of time.'

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Lots of stuff that I agree with deleted to highlight the specific I missed

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Originally Posted by LiamKerrington

Only something about her eyes. What exactly we don'T know. But Datu and Tanya are right: After this long period of time the eyes will need some time to adjust. Hope just needs to be patient.

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I think she had eye transplants...

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Originally Posted by nikvoodoo

There's usually a decent conversation about the chapter art by now. Let's have one!



Obviously we see Riley who has really let herself go.......;)

So where is Burt, why the heavy fire power? I'm having a hard time reconciling the chapter art, the chapter title, and the action in the story at the moment.

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Burt with the 50cal in a safe house with Riley hunting down scratch maybe? Although...that house doesnt look too safe...maybe it's them held up in some makeshift fortress when they see scratch somewhere and want to get the jump on her? Looks to me like he's in an attic of some sort, perhaps getting the high ground over scratch?...or a mob of zeds walking the streets when they are en route to Dunbar or the like?

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Originally Posted by runs4theheckofit

I think she had eye transplants...

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Green eyes? ; )

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Originally Posted by Grognaurd

It is storycraft. Let's say Skittles just happened to be a mental patient and say Lizzy was a therapist who studied in a mental hospital durring her phd program. Maybe Lizzy could get more out of Skittles since he might already feel comfortable with her. If Lizzy stays in the colony, I do not think skittles is going to show up any time soon asking to borrow a cup of sugar. So, the story would require Lizzy to be outside the colony for this to occur. Now for good measure, toss in a criminally insane dude covered with tattoos who seems to like tattooing little zombies so they grow up to be great big killing machines. Oh, and do not forget that this was done in a hospital called Canes and the plot driving the story is Fratracide; killing of a brother.

As long as i am here, I think Tanya has it wrong. The teeth are not serially replaced like a shark, those were the baby teeth; hyper accelerated growth, essentially growing from toddlers to over six feet tall in a only a few months.

Then, I get handed a tinfoil hat and I start listening for crows to have with my humble pie...

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I think you mean "Listening for crows....before I have to eat them" lol. Seriously though, you can have your hat back, I can't even rebut this here::tinfoil:

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Originally Posted by LiamKerrington

Good point. I didn't ask, 'cause I already fueled the discussion with criticism about the process of her treatment and cure ...

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Late to the party, but good point...if there is a transfusion of blood from Saul to CJ....if we keep this immunity theory alive.....is CJ immune now? she's got one leg, if they get over run, it's likely she gets bitten. I foresee an epic non-turning peg-leg moment....

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Originally Posted by LiamKerrington

Welcome to the show and the forum! That alone earned you your first rep from me.

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Thanks! I appreciate that. Question, what does one do with rep points?

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Originally Posted by LiamKerrington

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And even if there are so many people remaining, I think you should consider a few things:
-) a couple of the remaining people are more or less badly wounded, so during the first days (maybe even weeks depending on the type of bruises and trauma) they are not available for any work;
-) also not everyone might be suitable for heavy duties on fixing the fortifications; important fact: the area of the Colony is quite huge, and if CJ plans a similar solid fortification with what she did in Dunbar, "fixing" the Colony's walls is more than just filling the holes;
-) finally: besides the high priority tasks there are day to day activities like medical treatment, food-service, laundry service (Kelly, anyone?), garden duty etc., which need to be attended as well. So 80+ people are not around to work on the priority-shit only ... So 3-4 months didn't strike me as unlikely ...

Best wishes!
Liam

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So when the conversation happened with Tanya about the vote happening I believe most of the people were still in the hospital. I am assuming that most of the injured were still in the hospital as well, but I could be wrong about that. I'll have to go back and re-listen to it. Tanya is told that even if they had let 'non-colony residents' vote they still would have lost because they had 65 votes and that still would have been a majority. That could mean anywhere from 1-65 non-residents but guessing it somewhere in the 30-40 range (and like you mentioned some of those are still in the hospital). Anyway that is how I got my idea for how many people were left available to work.

Great points though on not everyone available for the heavy work, didn't think about that. Good call with Kelly on laundry duty too :-) I retract my statement about 4 months seeming ridiculously long. You have opened my eyes good sir haha

Hi there,

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Originally Posted by Unit9014

Thanks! I appreciate that. Question, what does one do with rep points?
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Great points though on not everyone available for the heavy work, didn't think about that. Good call with Kelly on laundry duty too :-) I retract my statement about 4 months seeming ridiculously long. You have opened my eyes good sir haha

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Rep(utation) Points are one of two major ways to give forum-members kudos for what they do and write on this platform. It is this small STAR-SYMBOL below any entry/ posting of this forum.
Below any forum-member-avatar there is this smaller or bigger row of green cuboids - the more one has, the bigger his reputation is. ; )
And as for discussing and sharing thoughts: Anytime. What I did not have in mind was that CJ corrected her own estimation down to two months; so yes, maybe four months was kind of a stretch, but at least it did not seem too far off. So you raised a very important question there. I (try to) treat any bit of information and opinion shared on this forum about what is going on in the WA-show as a means to test my own understanding and knowledge of the show. So almost any posting is at least valid packed with a high value. So, thank you very much for raising the 4-months doubts, because it helped me to think about it and to draw a proper picture about what is going on. And besides this: 7odd and scbubba (and more) added some more spicy thoughts to it ... And things like this is probably the big plus of this forum!

Best wishes!
Liam

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Originally Posted by LiamKerrington

Green eyes? ; )

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No black like her soul :) she's acting like the harbinger of death towards Datu, all because her vision is fuzzy.

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Originally Posted by runs4theheckofit

No black like her soul :) she's acting like the harbinger of death towards Datu, all because her vision is fuzzy.

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The title of this episode should be Hope becomes Despair.

Since I've got number on my mind at the Colony and folks have been talking about voting CJ in as the leader...

What's the timeline we are talking about here? From the day CJ "led the rebellion" to kick out the Mallers until the day after her surgery is a week or so at least? Working from memory here but didn't she sit waiting in the infirmary for several (3 or 4) days before Glenn and Pete made it to the Colony with the sat phone? And then another couple of days from that point to the surgery (with the initial zombie attack and the couple of waves after it)?

In that time, CJ was pretty active with the radios and directing people in person. People were used to coming to the hospital to see her and talk things over/get orders.

So, I think there was plenty of time to organize a "let's put CJ in formal command" movement among the natives. So, by my way of thinking, most of the work was done before Michael and Co. arrived from Fort Irwin. Having Michael on the ground at the Colony might have galvanized the people to have a vote.

Seems plausible to me, anyway....

i am just to start my second listen for that. I got the impression that it is long hours, maybe a day or two max. Not a week.

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Originally Posted by Grognaurd

I do not think CJ can do that. Period. Saul cannot plan shit, but he can spontaneously react to adverse situations and recover. The .50 cal won't take the whole nine yards. Screw it, feed it one round at a time. CJ would cry about it and blame the equipment. Saul gets the job done.

Train your people well and give them autonomy to react spontaneously. Teach them to fear you and watch your house of cards collapse the minute your plan makes first contact as they clog up the chain of command requesting new orders.

Datu FIX! vs. That weld will never hold!

Really, CJ? Really? Maybe she is right, but the character who knows her best, Saul, says "... because you know everything..." when he is operating as a combat medic and knows she is bleeding out.

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Somebody Rep Grognaurd for me for this one! I'm gonna need to spread it around a bit, first.

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Saul cannot plan shit, but he can spontaneously react to adverse situations and recover. The .50 cal won't take the whole nine yards. Screw it, feed it one round at a time. CJ would cry about it and blame the equipment. Saul gets the job done.

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She wasn't going to storm the Colony with her plan because it wasn't air-tight. Saul takes risks and will jump at a plan that is 'good enough' or "Sounds about right" (Liddy:Lizzy)

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Train your people well and give them autonomy to react spontaneously. Teach them to fear you and watch your house of cards collapse the minute your plan makes first contact as they clog up the chain of command requesting new orders.

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I've had (and still have) bosses like the Fearleaders. My way of dealing with them is to follow orders to the letter then watch the stink rise to the top from the pile of s..t of their own making. Then I silently giggle at watching them hemorrhage when I put on my loyal-servant-dutifully-following-my-masters-wishes-like-no-other face. This only works when their boss is around and steps onto the pile of doo doo. Otherwise, I would get blamed for the fiasco....
At Mysterical Island Laboratories

Mr. Talisman: "Witch Doctor! Mr. Mephistopheles has just turned pink and a Unicorn horn has replaced his Goat horns! Why is there pixie dust all over the place? :mad:"

Witch Doctor: "But Mr. Talisman, you insisted that I remove the eyes of ALL of the newts. When I told you we didn't have enough jars for them you told me to use the Pixie Dust jars. Well, 100 blind newts went running amok spreading Pixie dust all over. We couldn't catch the newts because pixie dust turns them into chameleons. It says on on the MSDS labels that you had me glue onto all of the bottles last week. One of the ghouls says that he followed a trail of pixie dust heading towards Mephistopheles' stash of Greek yogurt and dolmades.:o"

Mephistopheles: "Talismaaaaaaaan!!!!! In my office NOW!!!! :mad:"
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She practically imprisoned people in Dunbar with surveillance cameras watching the inhabitants (could also be used to track intruders too, though.) She even suspected that she lost people via desertion. She treats peoples' will and actions as a controllable variable, not valuing their wildcard nature, like you said. Sadly, I hope her disdain for acting-on-the-fly hasn't been reinforced by her deviating from the plan when she entered the hospital without waiting for Saul.

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Datu FIX! vs. That weld will never hold!

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This, my friend, says it all.

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Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor

Mr. Talisman: "Witch Doctor! Mr. Mephistopheles has just turned pink and a Unicorn horn has replaced his Goat horns! Why is there pixie dust all over the place? :mad:"

Witch Doctor: "But Mr. Talisman, you insisted that I remove the eyes of ALL of the newts. When I told you we didn't have enough jars for them you told me to use the Pixie Dust jars. Well, 100 blind newts went running amok spreading Pixie dust all over. We couldn't catch the newts because pixie dust turns them into chameleons. It says on on the MSDS labels that you had me glue onto all of the bottles last week. One of the ghouls says that he followed a trail of pixie dust heading towards Mephistopheles' stash of Greek yogurt and dolmades.:o"

Mephistopheles: "Talismaaaaaaaan!!!!! In my office NOW!!!! :mad:"
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I just.....brilliant. I lost it at the "MSDS Llabels you had me glue ontl all of the bottles last week"....having come from a re-up of my hazardous materials class recently. Awesome.

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Originally Posted by scbubba

Since I've got number on my mind at the Colony and folks have been talking about voting CJ in as the leader...

What's the timeline we are talking about here? From the day CJ "led the rebellion" to kick out the Mallers until the day after her surgery is a week or so at least? Working from memory here but didn't she sit waiting in the infirmary for several (3 or 4) days before Glenn and Pete made it to the Colony with the sat phone? And then another couple of days from that point to the surgery (with the initial zombie attack and the couple of waves after it)?

In that time, CJ was pretty active with the radios and directing people in person. People were used to coming to the hospital to see her and talk things over/get orders.

So, I think there was plenty of time to organize a "let's put CJ in formal command" movement among the natives. So, by my way of thinking, most of the work was done before Michael and Co. arrived from Fort Irwin. Having Michael on the ground at the Colony might have galvanized the people to have a vote.

Seems plausible to me, anyway....

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Originally Posted by Grognaurd

i am just to start my second listen for that. I got the impression that it is long hours, maybe a day or two max. Not a week.

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If I remember correctly, it was hours. Something about Saul saying that her leg wouldn't last longer than 4 hours. Pete and Glen took 8 hours because they were chased back into the safe house. Several more ours after fixing the phone, getting the message to Irwin, drive, drive, shoot shoot, gas bombs boom boom, drive, shoot, Datu "I can fix it Micheal! O-kay! Ay Nako! Aray!", dial, dial, no signal, BOOM!!! Victor "Sons's of bitches (Something badass in Spanish)" Puck "Y'all stink anyway!"

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Originally Posted by Grognaurd

I think 70 is way way low. Marcus tells Michael there are hundreds at the colony. Was Marcus lying? Maybe. Have they literally lost hundreds of people in the coups? Greater than 75% casualties?

Me, I am in the much more sinister camp. The colony treated people like crap, CJ did also and the mallers kept slaves. I think they have continued those ways. There maybe 80+ of the ruling class, but I think there are still a lot more peasants available to say jobs done.

Saul and victor find a maller and (s)he has a bunch of IDs. I do not think they are fake IDs. I think they literally are IDs of the slaves owned by that maller.

As for how much does CJ know. I am sure we have all had Screamers for bosses. They micromanage everything. A weld may be placed at five feet with a tolerance of plus or minus three inches. Maybe you are about to lock it down right at five, but just to to be dick and to put on a leadership show the boss will scream bloody murder about how that will never hold and have you move it to five feet one inch.

Some leadership is about showmanship and power. CJ may be awesome smart and/or maybe she is just putting on a good show. If Michael does not know shit about welding, he might think she really does know her shit. However, She brags about her proficiency with a sword and is a total spaz.

Like I said, maybe she is awesome, but leadership is planning and execution. Eisenhower taught me Planning is everything, but THE Plan means nothing. One must have to be able to drop the plan and instantly go to B and onto C right in the middle of the operation.

I do not think CJ can do that. Period. Saul cannot plan shit, but he can spontaneously react to adverse situations and recover. The .50 cal won't take the whole nine yards. Screw it, feed it one round at a time. CJ would cry about it and blame the equipment. Saul gets the job done.

Train your people well and give them autonomy to react spontaneously. Teach them to fear you and watch your house of cards collapse the minute your plan makes first contact as they clog up the chain of command requesting new orders.

Datu FIX! vs. That weld will never hold!

Really, CJ? Really? Maybe she is right, but the character who knows her best, Saul, says "... because you know everything..." when he is operating as a combat medic and knows she is bleeding out.

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It is a simple question, has already enough happened to let CJ's house of cards crumble down? Yes. She already must be very careful with whom, at what moment and about which topic she can discuss a certain topic. Hence, she will be pretty fucked up in the long run. In my opinion, this is an ineluctable fact.

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Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor

The title of this episode should be Hope becomes Despair.

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:) May I propose Sunglasses At Night as subheading?

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xsr...at-night_music

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Originally Posted by YetAnotherBloodyCheek

It is a simple question, has already enough happened to let CJ's house of cards crumble down? Yes. She already must be very careful with whom, at what moment and about which topic she can discuss a certain topic. Hence, she will be pretty fucked up in the long run. In my opinion, this is an ineluctable fact.

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You are correct. Notice how she verbally stumbles when explaining to Michael why she's sending Victor ans Saul to Dunbar?

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Originally Posted by YetAnotherBloodyCheek

:) May I propose Sunglasses At Night as subheading?

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xsrcb_corey-hart-sunglasses-at-night_music

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this I can get behind

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Originally Posted by YetAnotherBloodyCheek

:) May I propose Sunglasses At Night as subheading?

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Why not? When Datu first encounters Samantha, he describes her as two faceless eyes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKmldYSDJaM

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Originally Posted by witch_doctor

at mysterical island laboratories

mr. Talisman: "witch doctor! Mr. Mephistopheles has just turned pink and a unicorn horn has replaced his goat horns! Why is there pixie dust all over the place? :mad:"

witch doctor: "but mr. Talisman, you insisted that i remove the eyes of all of the newts. When i told you we didn't have enough jars for them you told me to use the pixie dust jars. Well, 100 blind newts went running amok spreading pixie dust all over. We couldn't catch the newts because pixie dust turns them into chameleons. It says on on the msds labels that you had me glue onto all of the bottles last week. One of the ghouls says that he followed a trail of pixie dust heading towards mephistopheles' stash of greek yogurt and dolmades.:o"

mephistopheles: "talismaaaaaaaan!!!!! In my office now!!!! :mad:"
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Ll.

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rotf lmfao

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GRATZ on 25k achievement!

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Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor

Why not? When Datu first encounters Samantha, he describes her as two faceless eyes.

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Nice one. Besides, Hope still cannot see clearly, just some blurred lines.

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Originally Posted by YetAnotherBloodyCheek

Nice one. Besides, Hope still cannot see clearly, just some...

http://www.alltimeclubbing.com/video/2404694/

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HA!!!!!!!! You Win!!! :cool:

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Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor

It says on on the MSDS labels that you had me glue onto all of the bottles last week. One of the ghouls says that he followed a trail of pixie dust heading towards Mephistopheles' stash of Greek yogurt and dolmades.:o"

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I love dolmades, especially with a nice lemon sauce!

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Originally Posted by Grognaurd

i am just to start my second listen for that. I got the impression that it is long hours, maybe a day or two max. Not a week.

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Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor

If I remember correctly, it was hours. Something about Saul saying that her leg wouldn't last longer than 4 hours. Pete and Glen took 8 hours because they were chased back into the safe house. Several more ours after fixing the phone, getting the message to Irwin, drive, drive, shoot shoot, gas bombs boom boom, drive, shoot, Datu "I can fix it Micheal! O-kay! Ay Nako! Aray!", dial, dial, no signal, BOOM!!! Victor "Sons's of bitches (Something badass in Spanish)" Puck "Y'all stink anyway!"

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Checked it again. You guys are right in that it's not a full week. It took almost 24 hours for Glenn and Pete to get to the Colony. From there to the start of 38-1 is several more hours (big zombie fight, arrival of helo from Irwin, second wave of zombies with the 2 little ones that get chased down by Michael/Puck/soldiers). Michael sleeps for a few hours then goes to make chloroform for CJ's surgery. The surgery happens overnight and then we have 2 days following the surgery where nothing really happens.

So, one day from the fight with the Mallers until the fight with the zombies. Part of a day between the zombie fight and the surgery. Then 2 days from surgery to the "CJ got voted in" discussion.

That gives about 3 days (instead of a whole week) to rally the troops in CJs favor. Still a reasonable amount of time.

I can't wait to see how long it takes before Michael and the others to find out the truth behind Saul and Victor's Exodus.. I feel Lizzy will say something to Riley if Saul tells her.
It will be interesting for sure.. But then again. If things are working well between the Colony and Dunbar with the network of safe houses, then does it really matter if it comes out at all. I can see it coming to light if there is unrest at the Colony to pull the troops back together (Unity)to go to Dunbar or take over the Colony from CJ.
My personal preference would be for Michael and crew to make Dunbar their home and have a decent relationship with the Colony.

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Originally Posted by Merlin1274

I can't wait to see how long it takes before Michael and the others to find out the truth behind Saul and Victor's Exodus.. I feel Lizzy will say something to Riley if Saul tells her.
It will be interesting for sure.. But then again. If things are working well between the Colony and Dunbar with the network of safe houses, then does it really matter if it comes out at all. I can see it coming to light if there is unrest at the Colony to pull the troops back together (Unity)to go to Dunbar or take over the Colony from CJ.
My personal preference would be for Michael and crew to make Dunbar their home and have a decent relationship with the Colony.

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Or Unity might be this: Lizzy tells Riley (or whomever), Riley gets even more crazy and tells all the other closer friends. And then all of them start a small "campaign" and literally flee the Colony in order to stick together, like they did in the first place - just in another new tower. And the more I think of it, the more I like this picture. CJ never was one of the "friends". Do you remember, what Michael said at the end of the War? About this tattered bunch of misfits and civilians? And now, after the group was split for 4 months they would have the great opportunity to stick together again ... And they know: together they had the best moves, they made the best decisions, and they survived much better than any other group after all ... How cool would that be, if things would turn into pre-Tower-collapse again, just with Dunbar as the new location?

Best wishes!
Liam

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Originally Posted by pmchawk

Yeah, I looked up some information.

Irritated burning eyes, a few days after the surgery is common as is blurry vision. The one I'm looking at has protective contacts put in your eyes while they heal.

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It's kind of been more than a few days after her surgery.

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Originally Posted by Wayfarer

It's kind of been more than a few days after her surgery.

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True, but the bandages werent suppose to be on nearly as long as they were.