Chapter 19 - 1 The Catalyst

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Originally Posted by mascaria

Do you really believe that's all the Mallers wanted? Not for nothing but if you wanted to take a place over, maybe pipe bombs would be left at home?

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No, but I would guess that the best plan the Mallers could come up with is Take over first, but if that fails, kill the enemy. If the Tower people are gone, there's more supplies for the Mallers to take for themselves and not have to worry about competition. The Mallers are a group founded on what they know: violence. Even there attempts at negotiation were hostile. Listen to Durai as he "negotiates" with the Tower. It's all threats. I'm not surprised at all they resorted to the tactics they used.

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Originally Posted by Ra1th

well the reason the mallers came a knockin on our tower's front door was because they needed a new place to stay, and that's exactly how there could be a maller team up with the tower. the tower has its agenda, rescue group michael, and the mallers get a new place to live. of course the hole in this plan is the people living under tyranny in the colony. they cant live there if the mallers are gonna be in charge. they shoulda been cannibals, no one cares if cannibals die

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Think Road Warrior. I'm pretty sure the guy in the hockey mask was an understanding and trust worthy person as well. After all, he did try to negotiate too.

I don't see Michael (OR Burt) saying to the Mallers. "It's okay that you tried to kill me and my girlfriend and take all my stuff and try to get one of my other friends to pay you with sex for fuel tank. And about that thing with trying to burn me alive..... It's all water under the bridge now! Come live where I sleep."

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Originally Posted by Zombiehead

Think Road Warrior. I'm pretty sure the guy in the hockey mask was an understanding and trust worthy person as well. After all, he did try to negotiate too.

I don't see Michael (OR Burt) saying to the Mallers. "It's okay that you tried to kill me and my girlfriend and take all my stuff and try to get one of my other friends to pay you with sex for fuel tank. And about that thing with trying to burn me alive..... It's all water under the bridge now! Come live where I sleep."

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oh no by no means do i mean that the tower and the mallers become buddy buddy, live together in the colony. i'm just saying it's possible for a momentary alliance to take down a bigger enemy. I'm saying that the tower's future lies in Hope and finding the second tower, while the mallers get the colony. And although i can see michael holding a grudge against the mallers, i dont see him having any real input in that particular aspect of the plan, he's probably going to be stuck inside the colony doing his revolution thing, while Burt and Angel plan out the attack on the colony, and just knowing burt, i get the feeling he'd be down for a momentary team up with the mallers.

but once again there is the moral issue of what happens to the people living under tyranny in the colony if the mallers take over

When I was listening I thought Marucs might have been skirting the subject of his military past not because it was a lie, but maybe because it was a darker subject you would not tell someone when trying to get them on your side. Maybe torture or something? Michael might know what he was up to if he gave him more information. His morality seems to be by almost any means necessary, and we have seen how he treats people, so maybe he got in trouble for his brand of ethics back in the normal world. Also, what sort of person outside of a cop or someone in the military would think of tasers in this situation? I doubt that would do much against a zombie, and seems to be only useful for keeping people in line. Also, something is fishy about Marcus telling Michael that he cant leave because he might tell others about the colony. Why would he kick out Hope then? Her blindness makes her less of a threat but there must of been others incapable of contributing as in Marcus' eyes. Something tells me those people are taken care of once the leave, one way or another.

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Originally Posted by Ra1th

well the reason the mallers came a knockin on our tower's front door was because they needed a new place to stay, and that's exactly how there could be a maller team up with the tower. the tower has its agenda, rescue group michael, and the mallers get a new place to live. of course the hole in this plan is the people living under tyranny in the colony. they cant live there if the mallers are gonna be in charge. they shoulda been cannibals, no one cares if cannibals die

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Would you give a fortress to a bunch of people who couldn't be trusted? Especially knowing that your own people are struggling back home. True I would like see them run into cannibals at some point. Maybe next season. They're one up on the psycho entertainment charts ahead of mad scientists. Anyway I'm going to stop theorizing for now before I start going into my wild ideas of Angel and Scratch hooking up. I'll just keep pacing until next Monday.

Bow chick wow wow. That is all, thank you for you time.

P.S. Really great episode, as always.

P.P.S. Sean was murdered.

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Originally Posted by Zombiehead

Would you give a fortress to a bunch of people who couldn't be trusted? Especially knowing that your own people are struggling back home. True I would like see them run into cannibals at some point. Maybe next season. They're one up on the psycho entertainment charts ahead of mad scientists. Anyway I'm going to stop theorizing for now before I start going into my wild ideas of Angel and Scratch hooking up. I'll just keep pacing until next Monday.

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angel and scratch?!?! *gasps in horror!*

i dont see the tower moving into the colony, even after the revolution, cause there are too many mysteries in LA that have yet to be solved. INK is still there, ground zero is still there, and the mystery of the second tower is still there, i think by giving the mallers a fortress far far away, you could probably keep them out of your business.

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Originally Posted by Ra1th

angel and scratch?!?! *gasps in horror!*

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Well, Angel did just get all cut up by that window.....maybe he'll end up with matching scars and they'll be perfect together.

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Originally Posted by eraesir

When I was listening I thought Marucs might have been skirting the subject of his military past not because it was a lie, but maybe because it was a darker subject you would not tell someone when trying to get them on your side. Maybe torture or something? Michael might know what he was up to if he gave him more information. His morality seems to be by almost any means necessary, and we have seen how he treats people, so maybe he got in trouble for his brand of ethics back in the normal world. Also, what sort of person outside of a cop or someone in the military would think of tasers in this situation? I doubt that would do much against a zombie, and seems to be only useful for keeping people in line. Also, something is fishy about Marcus telling Michael that he cant leave because he might tell others about the colony. Why would he kick out Hope then? Her blindness makes her less of a threat but there must of been others incapable of contributing as in Marcus' eyes. Something tells me those people are taken care of once the leave, one way or another.

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i dont think that's the case, at all. He didnt know what MOS was, and michael had to restate the question in civilian terms, ill bet anythign he's lying about his military ties to establish his authority.

who would think of using tazers? not that hard to think of. THink about slavery, they were kept in line by fear of whips, modernize it, and make it a little less horrific, and you've got tazers. that could just be anyone, doesnt have to be military or police

he wont kick out michael because michael is EXTREMELY valuable! so valuable that michael was offered second in command. Hope cant do anything... i hate to be that guy, but she's blind, she's not very useful. Should she be thrown out of the colony, she'll be eaten really fast. and there very well may have been others who were "useless" in Marcus's eyes and got kicked out, the reason hope wasnt, was because Tanya stood up for her.

what tells u that the people thrown out of the colony are taken care of? we've seen nothing of another group of survivors near the colony, if ur thrown out into the zombie apocalypse, ur screwed

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Originally Posted by nikvoodoo

Ra1th and Adogg, I will need to see you after class......(and Adogg, I'm not even sure what your I told you so was for. Write it in a two page essay by class time tomorrow...).......

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Your gonna make me find my "Rescue signs are bad" posts aren't you? Remember my whole theory on funneling the living into a kill zone? Place cars to block off entrances (not for Zombies but for other cars)?....


I recommended NOT going into the way they wanted you to (ie, following the signs, unblocked roads) so that Michael/Pegs/Kelly could pick their terms for meeting the "rescue" people.


TOLD YOU SO! :D