Hi. Am I the only one thinking that it was a regular biter? Little Ones sound very different. It might have been a smart one instead, but not necessarily Ink or Randy ...
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Hi. Am I the only one thinking that it was a regular biter? Little Ones sound very different. It might have been a smart one instead, but not necessarily Ink or Randy ...
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Originally Posted by Elisa
I am looking at what Grognaurd is saying with all these new names dropping into the show right at the end, and thinking about what KC said in an interview, I believe at the end of Season 3, that we aren't going to see the introduction of any new 'significant' characters in Season 4. I think with all the new names dropping, it isn't so much about who these people really were, but about what we can learn from their story. I don't particularly think there is anything special about Cohen, or Nick Rivers, or Austin etc. It isn't about them... it is only about what we learn from their story that leads us farther down our already existing path. Sure we will probably find out later who Austin was, Vic will remember and go 'Oh Yeah! That was the guy from the court papers!', but it won't matter who the guy was, only that it gave us just enough info to lead us somewhere else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grognaurd
Don't know if any of that made sense?
My other thought... Tardust was already in prison, and from what we learn when he tries to get busy with Mrs. Lizzy, he had been in for a long time already. The court papers that were mixed in with Ink's leads me to believe that this was a concurrent case, perhaps with a hearing on the same day or perhaps somehow related to that of Ink's. I don't see how what we know about Tardust could fit him into that role.
I am sticking with Austin is someone we haven't exactly met yet and isn't a significant character.
Why Bricks?
Because I am still not clear if Ink bribed Cohen for the Tattoos or if someone else bribed Cohen to "inflict" the Tattoos. If it was done against his will, my guess is Bricks could hold Bill Roberts in place during the procedure.
The line is ...he bribed Cohen. He could be Bill Roberts, tha works. But, before that line was something like someone smuggled in a shitload of pens. So, the "he" could refer to the unknown smuggler.
Does Bill Roberts go nuts in the prison and ink himself up?
Does the Family seek revenge and dessicrate his face like has been done to so many others. Scratch, Charlie, Pippin, Gatekeeper, etc...?
Bricks provides a family connection. Bricks has no fear of normal biters, but the special ones freak him out and Durai seemed to have it in for the special ones and was planning to fire bomb them with tanker trucks pretty early in the outbreak. They rescue Lady, and those water and food dispensers are designed for a few days not a few weeks.
Edit, oh and the significance of a picture and not just a name, Lizzy can recognize a picture of Bricks or Tardust. Another possibility I now consider is could there have been a picture of this guy where they found the picture of Kalani when looking through CJs files?
Not necessarily, there were hundreds of people in the Colony, and Tanya seemed to spend most if not all her time in the hospital. Plus she mentions while fixing Michaels arm in the hospital that she makes a point of not getting to know anyone because she isn't sure how long they will be around, its better not to get attached.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elisa
Also the population of the Colony changed a lot after the Mallers came in and brought some of their 'slaves' and then the attack happened and wiped out a big portion too.
Could well be. Though if it was Ink, Datu would have expressed some surprise at seeing him. Mind, that's assuming that it was Ink that he saw at the Arena when Samantha was killed. It's a safe bet to assume that it was a Little One, but remember what Burt said: "The smarter you are in life". Seems coincidential that the comment was brought up by Kelly in this episode - perhaps we've been introduced to anothet "smart one", which ties in with the Austin fella who was also mentioned in the episode.Quote:
Originally Posted by skankyfish
Another issue with Bricks, Bricks was in East Bay, but Ink never was, he was in the mental facility and in jail but never in prison. So unless Bricks somehow got out of prison and to the jail just to hold a guy down.... nah that just doesn't make any sense to me...Quote:
Originally Posted by Grognaurd
What if it was Randy?Quote:
Originally Posted by tonyhind86
Maybe it was Randy who did not kill R2Da2; but it killed Jay and Glen, unless there were more than just one zomb ...Quote:
Originally Posted by tonyhind86
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Originally Posted by tonyhind86
Yep, now totally wondering if it was Randy. Datu probably wouldn't recognise him, and either way he'd be terrified because zombie...Quote:
Originally Posted by Unit9014
Good point about Eastern Bay. All we really know is he was with the mallers. Maybe Scratch was a local bus driver and made a few stops along the way lol. Grrr... Umm, seen any flying squid Cthulhu clones...?Quote:
Originally Posted by Unit9014
March 10, 2010. Victor joins Michael and a group of soldiers on a scavanging run to a local COSTCO store. The location has already been heavily picked over, but the group still finds an impressive haul of home electronics, batteries, and toilet paper in bulk packages. Michael notices a yellow plastic bag sticking out of Victor's back pocket and asks him about it. Victor says that he found a bag of beef jerkey. Michael asks if there is more, but Victor says it was the only one. Michael asks for a piece, but Victor has already eaten them all. Michael sulks all the way home.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooer
Relistening to it, it sounds like multiple sets of footsteps. Hard to tell for sure thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by LiamKerrington
Now I want beef jerky! Thanks... Sucks that it's so expensive here in Denmark... And that you can only get it in the few shops that actually sell American stuff. Just like skittles... Speaking of which... Where the fuck is that guy? ... He probably became Zkittles a long time ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabbage Patch
Anyways....
There is at least one little one, you can here their metalic scream/squeak thing at 16:07.30, and at 16:09.30. There's a different scream at 16:22.50, though, not sure what that is.
At 16:33.80 it sounds like the zet is saying something. The only word I can hear though is "hi", and that would just be weird.
At 16:24.50 it snarls and bites (sounds like that to me) before saying "kill"/"get up"/"*****" at 16:50.30.
Am I the only one who can hear a zombie to the right at 16:33.00, and again at 16:36.40?
Backs up the theory (can't remember who posted that, sorry) that there are more than one zombie in this scene. I kinda like that idea.
Re-listened to the attack scene a few times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unit9014
At the end it sounds like an alarm, weather it is linked to the gate or a general alarm for the colony, and multiple footsteps coming out of the gate in response to the gunfire. This would make sense because the colony is not going to sit still as three of their own is attacked directly outside of their gate, and that also explains why the zombies run off suddenly.
And i agree with several people here, CJ is not going to shut up about this now and it is all Michael's fault for not bringing the gun truck back.
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Originally Posted by Nathan.Luiz
I think that there might be a problem with Austin McCooben being a Maller. McCooben's Trial info was in the Judge's chamber along with Ink's. This was immediately prior to the outbreak. It seems that his case was being tried at or around the same time. So, unless he was recently convicted and immediately sent to Eastern Bay Prison then he really wouldn't have been in the prison when Scratch broke them out of jail. Even if he was just sent there before TEOTWAWKI, would he have had time to form a camaraderie with the inmates in such a short time?Quote:
Originally Posted by skankyfish
BUT, story wise, as someone said before, what would be the purpose of bringing back a dead character with some sort of possible connection to Ink? Well, if it is a Maller who might have some sort of insight into INK, then there could be a mad dash to find them before Burt and Riley does. This could also lead to the (please dear Lord, NOOOO) possibility of a truce between the Mallers and the Colony. (I'm now thinking of last night's Walking Dead episode.)
I am racking my brain trying to think of who I would even want Austin Mckiben (sp?) to be! What if it was little one #7 that he and Tanya ran into earlier? very far off chance since they all started off small I know. I like the theory of Austin being a "special" zombie that they might have encountered at some point. Either way, I think they'll be able to look into him a little bit and discover where he was turned or something along that line, and if he was/is a special one, they might find another place like the hospital.
I swear I'm hearing get up... and if so, why would that get said to Datu? I am thinking that Datu was bitten, told to get up so he would know he wasn't going to be killed and then the zom (Randy, Ink, Smart One) left him. If there is one thing we know about Datu it is his crying noises! That sounded like a "the world is done and I'm going to die" cry unlike any we have heard from the leaky faucet! I think he's going to turn and be another challenge facing the survivors, both in him being extremely smart so the smarter in death... and also an emotional challenge. It will be difficult for anyone to kill zombie Datu!
I thought I heard "Kill" too. Yes, I'm sure there are several Zombies running around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Storm
Ah, If I smoked I'd say lets trade, Beef jerky for Cuban Cigars.Quote:
Sucks that it's so expensive here in Denmark
Austin could be Randy, but I don't think so. Michael knows Randy as well. They said that they had been seperating the pages. That means others saw the papers. We know that Puck, Michael, Victor (If I remember that when the Colony was attacked Victor said in his journal that there was a beared man with a tattoo on the right side of his face. Thus why I think Randy works with Ink now. Marking his second in comand. That has nothing to do with this thread though), and Trainee (Can't think of name) saw him on the camera. I can't imagine that no one helping sorting the papers didn't notice. It could happen, but I am not feeling it. That and Michael isn't really hiding Randy anymore. Hell, He chansed him down with Puck. I just can't see Victor pointing at a pic of Randy going "Hey. I know that guy." and Michael make making a sound. I mean no sound at all. No "Hmmm" or "Are you sure?". If it were Randy I am betting Michael would have went "WHAAAAAT?". Mainly with him knowing he is moving chemicals that Ink had in his lab. Michael keeps things close to his chest, but that kinda info could wipe out the group. Unless Michael was a serial killer with Randy and he doesn't want ppl to know about it. He was even about to tell the story to Puck. Granted when they chased him he didn't go "Hey! I know that Guy!", but finding hard evidence that he may be linked to Ink? Yeah. Michael would have said something. Even if it were to find out how much Victor knew and down play it.
Still at work so I haven't been able to listen to the Datu scene again. If it was Ink, Randy, Little One, random Smart one it would make sense. Ink and Randy are smart. Ink atleast is able to read, write, think, plan, speak, mix chemicals, ect. Odds are Randy can atleast Read (How did he know what chemicals to grab and where to go? Regardless of if he is working with Ink or not he has to know something for him to go to Raydon... Ink's Lab... and grab stuff Ink was getting. My guess is he was the one that left the note. Ink gave it to him.. he went there... and read what he needed) and think/plan.
CJ made the comment that "All they had to do was wait us out...." Ink seems to be doing that. Waiting. Letting them starve. If Randy is working for him he could have looked at the pump and went "Hmmm. That is a Water Pump. I was at the Water Station before I was turned so I know something about this stuff. Odds are I know what this is. If I mess this up they will have no water. Then they will die faster."
Also fits Ink's MO. He snuck in and killed ppl and tricked them into letting him in. After ppl got wise to that he stopped. He sent waves of normals to attack The Colony before him and his Little Ones went in. He is a planner. When he realized that they have more Fire Power and could hold the line.. he has left them alone for a while. This would fit what has been going on. Take away the water and watch them die.
What does Victor say to Micheal when he asks to go along with him? It sounds like "You take ???????? out there, like every day I'm better than them." Then Micheal says, "That's only because I have too."
He said Trainees. Thus why Michael has too. CJ assigns them to him so he has no choice.
@Verse
I think a lot of that sounds good! I think Michael might have kept quiet if it was Randy since he is mad at Vic. They are making a point to show this chapter how Michael won't do ANYTHING with Vic now. Maybe he looks at it like if he seems interested at all he won't be able to do anything without Vic. Kinda a long shot, just playing devils advocate!
And don't forget to add Tattoo artist to the list of Ink's implied talents! Maybe not his own, but the little ones got marked somehow.
What would really suck? If the sound we hear near the end is the water pump or generator pumping water that's just been contaminated with Inkling goo! A full frontal assault didn't work, and why would Ink want to assimilate emaciated corpses when he could get living human beings?
This story has so many Trojan horses that (Insert Hacker joke; I got nothing)
I think Witch_Doctor just won all the internets...
Am I the only one who is confused by CJ only sending Jay out with Glenn and Datu. It almost seems like a shift in her thinking as she wanted the gun truck which seems to always have at least 4 people with it to go with them.
But one person with a gun they have never used before is more then enough to protect them once she hears about it.
I wondered about that too. all we heard before was "GUN TRUCK, GUN TRUCK, GUN TRUCK, GUN TRUCK, GUN TRUCK, GUN TRUCK!" and then suddenly "Oh, new weapon prototype that really has had only one successful test? Sure, take it and a lone gunman as security and go finish this vital piece of equipment outside our walls that we need to survive before it starts to storm."Quote:
Originally Posted by Mondy
Da Fook, CJ? Was that a brain-fart or was that you sending them out to die?
Thanks, now what does that dang fox say?Quote:
Originally Posted by Verse
For The Win!Quote:
Originally Posted by Storm
I have no clue what you or Witch_Doctor are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Storm
I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with this show.
and I'm happy that I don't know.
Ever try to make your own? Very easy to make and not very expensive, pretty much the cost of the roast you use is the majority of it. If you are interested in trying let me know and I'll PM you some recipes and walk through how to do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Storm
I agree you should look into making it yourself, I make my own deer jerky all the time. Home-made is always better than store bought.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unit9014
Doc won their internet earlier. But storm may have just taken it away.
miskatonic university is correlating the scores as we speak.
I've brought up something before and it still nags in the back of my mind. Ink and some random others are supposed to be very smart. They are attacking humans for food or to turn them. What happens when all of humanity is either eaten or turned? Just like the zombies found on Catalina island were starving to death, all zombies will starve and die. It doesn't make sense for Ink to want to destroy ALL humans, in the process he destroys himself and all other zombies as well. As much as he can plan and logic and reason he must know this. Is he so bent on death at this point that he is content to kill himself as well? It would be in his best interest to preserve some humans just to keep them as a reproducing food source. What do you all think?
get off of what that dam fox says geeze. so what I heard is that
Glenn is gone, and the solider is gone too. so is Datu hurt and still alive
or is he going to slowly turn? the last 3 mins were confusing with all the stuff going on.
edited: ok so it was jay that bit the dust. after reading some of the earlier post.
I am still confused if Datu is wounded or not. he crying but that could because of Glenn
and what is it with killing off the old guy KC. the walking dead did it last night now you.