What Should the Government Do During an Outbreak?

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Originally Posted by random_highjinx

So, I come from an old school military family. Every male in my family has been military as far back as we can trace our lineage. My father, specifically, had quite an interesting military career. I asked him what he thought the government would do and this is what he said, "Be less concerned about what the government would do to protect you, and be more concerned about what you would do to protect yourself." In so few words I'll outline what he said.

1. In the event of a full scale national pandemic that resembles bio-terrorisim, the government would likely shut down the country's borders then the state governments would shut down their individual borders. They would likely be enforce them with fire on sight.

2. Stay AWAY from military bases. When dealing with bio-warfare, they will shoot you if you come into their sniper space. They will not hesitate. They cannot afford to let anything infected into their compounds. Most probably don't give the military enough credit on this one. If it looks like they are dealing with biological weapons, they will shoot anyone that approaches bases/military vehicles/ships/etc. In that kind of event, it is one of their first lines of defense. If you are not a soldier in communication with the base... do not go near it. It'll give you a chance to live a lot longer.

3. If things get out of hand, they will bomb the shit out of everything. If it looks like they cannot first stop the problem, they will withdraw and try to contain it. If they cannot contain it, they will destroy it.

There's probably more details to it then that. But, there ya go. lol

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I think that a pretty spot on assessment. Military bases are going to be like hospital, don't go there unless you want to die. Even if they designate them as refugee points and allow civilians to enter I would be worried about some hiding a bite or a scratch and then all hell breaking out within the fence.

The government should announce to all rednecks there is a zombie hunting season, no limits, any weapons. Then just sit back and let us rednecks take care of the problem.
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Originally Posted by Cabbage Patch

Excellent point. And that is the real social benefit of programs like "We're Alive". Two years ago no government official worth his salt would have believed that the zombie apocalypse was possible. Now we have the CDC publishing its zombie preparedness guidelines, we have cities like Bristol creating zombie preparedness plans that, while tongue in cheek, actually look somewhat sound. I predict that by the end of Season 5 of WA there will be a federal department of zombie preparedness!

Which is why we need to get on record now and help shape the emerging government policy. Oh, and I nominate KC Wayland for Presidential Zombie Czar.

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While the zombie preparedness is "tongue in cheek" they do it for a reason. First off, a zombie type situation is not a scientific impossibility. Maybe the George Romero version of it, yes. But there are viruses, bacteria, spores, molds, fungus(GB!), etc... that have actually done something similar to "zombification" in nature. It's not out of the realm of possibilities that one of these can be adapted to a human. In fact, a type of human rage virus (think 28 days later) is highly probable a lot of scientists say. So it's good for "tongue-in-cheek" reports and preparations but there might always be a situation where it will come in handy.

Which is also the most likely situation. A viral or bacterial epidemic that is killing in mass. Think Spanish flu, bubonic plague, etc... Since a zombie virus scenario plays out just like a flu or plague situation. Think that an infected person with the flu suddenly becomes a "zombie" and that "bite" or transmission to another person adds another "zombie". CDC and cities planning for a zombie apocalypse might make some people laugh, but there are important things to consider in such a scenario.

Anyway, I'm sure you knew all that.
Frankly I think it's the regular people who are responsible for preparations more than the government. The government is only as good as its people. I read World War Z. Spoilers below in case anyone wants to read it and hasn't.



In one chapter of the book a girl describes how a bunch of Americans decided to move north to canada and live in the wilderness because the cold seems to be a sort of kryptonite for the zombies. The girl talks about how the population was TOTALLY unprepared. Almost like they were going on a short camping trip. People brought crap that won't do any good. iPods, laptop computers, cheap sleeping bags that have ZERO insulation, perishable food instead of MREs or canned goods that can last long. They filled their cars full of first world crap. At first things were good in Canada. Then things got a little violent, and eventually people resorted to cannibalism. Amazing... they became the thing they were running from without even catching the virus. People can't live without their cozy lives. Once they have them, why go back? I love America, I love what it represents. But I know that if a really bad situation like this were to happen, we'd not pull through it very well. 3rd world countries that already understand survival skills and what is REALLY important, not their crappy iPods.

Of course, I could be wrong. We do live in a world where Survivor man and Bear Grylls are on TV. I've learned a lot just from watching Bear Grylls lol. I think I could survive in Moab, UT :)

As Mr."riskbreaker23" says zombie type scenarios are possible (although the example below is unlikely to spread to humans as we are immune to most fungal infections du to our high body temperature (with obvious exceptions).
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/ne...rasitic-fungus

My plan for the government is pretty simple, they and military forces must survive. All military bases must be secured. The next step would be a bombing campaign as seen in Day by day Armageddon (using moabs and carpet bombing techniques rather than nukes). While this is going on the government must move to a secure position and begin planning for a safe haven. Preferably a small island that is fertile and on which agriculture is already practiced. The island must be able to host a population of workers, military personnel and the government it self. From there the government goes about locating more suitable islands, purging them of the nasties and starting new centres of population there. Communication with other surviving governments would be essential and measures must be taken to ensure that we continue to progress scientifically such as creating one or more universities. After this point with stable populations and good relations with other surviving groups the government can begin to consider reclaiming there respective country and resources necessary for humanity to begin from where we left off. Search for a vaccine/ preventive measure against infection is important but must only take place when security is ensured, no point sacrificing everything with one small accident.

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Originally Posted by riskbreaker23

Of course, I could be wrong. We do live in a world where Survivor man and Bear Grylls are on TV. I've learned a lot just from watching Bear Grylls lol. I think I could survive in Moab, UT :)

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Don't forget the show "Doomsday Preppers". I keep waiting for an episode where the person says , "I'm prepping for the zombie apocalypse".

Despite the efforts of well-meaning humans, the world has suffered terribly throughout history. This causes thinking persons to wonder, as did the late editorial writer David Lawrence: "'Peace on earth'—nearly everybody wants it. 'Good will toward men'—almost all the peoples of the world feel it toward one another. Then what's wrong? Why is war threatened despite the innate desires of peoples?"

It seems a paradox, doesn't it? When the natural desire of people is to live at peace, they commonly hate and kill one another—and with such viciousness. Consider the cold-blooded excesses in monstrous cruelty. Humans have used gas chambers, concentration camps, flamethrowers, napalm bombs, and other heinous methods to torture and slaughter one another mercilessly.

Do you believe that humans, who long for peace and happiness, are capable, in themselves, of such gross wickedness against others? What forces drive men to such loathsome deeds or maneuver them into situations where they feel compelled to commit atrocities? Have you ever wondered whether some wicked, invisible power is influencing people to commit such acts of violence?

time will come an all the human governments today will vanished.






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