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I dont think I've ever been so upset over being right before.....WOW. Powerful episodeQuote:
Originally Posted by Hoff4D
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From 44-1 Discussion:
I dont think I've ever been so upset over being right before.....WOW. Powerful episodeQuote:
Originally Posted by Hoff4D
Only 9 pages so far................... I have a feeling that the vast majority of people are just sitting there staring at their computers unsure as to what just happened.....................
It's okay, everyone. I'm a ghost now. OohohooOOhoO. GhOsT LiZzY
Ok, but now Lizzy is dead - who is going to record the commercials?Quote:
Originally Posted by LizzyFabre
Boooo. BOOOOO. Booo. Square Space. Booo. BOOOOOOOOOO.Quote:
Originally Posted by YetAnotherBloodyCheek
Cried.
Kinda still teary
Conjectures? Hell no!
Too busy being upset at the pretend
Please do not go haunting Saul. poor guy has had enough. No need to keep freaking him out mths later.Quote:
Originally Posted by LizzyFabre
Unless you can float on into the heart of the Z-Camp and tell Saul what is going on..
If not then Maybe we need to Salt your body and burn you for good measure. So you can rest in Peace.. Go all Supernatural on you.
Or a dog....of sortsQuote:
Originally Posted by Merlin1274
Edit: Whoops, late to the party on this joke, should've finished the previous pages. My bad.
Oh man, what an episode.....I'm just going to....
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What a depressing episode....
If the next Commercial is like this..... that would be Epic!!!!!! :yay:Quote:
Originally Posted by LizzyFabre
Well, in addition, we can rule out that it is time for a return of Mr Whiskers - wrong gender, buddy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoff4D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-OwMoAsP38
Use coupon code "Boooooooooooooooooooooo!" to get 30% off. Wait, how many "o"s was that? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Gnex
Alright, I think I've collected some of my thoughts:
When the treehemoth was holding onto the heli, I thought Kc was going to pull a switcharoo on us and CJ would jump out of the heli, peg leg first and stab that Treehemoth in the face and go out in a blaze of glory.
Along those lines, I thought we were going to cut to Scratch busting in to save the baby delivery crew. Oh how was I wrong on all these accounts...
So, I know these chapters usually have double meanings, but at face value we had Life & Death....and Death. Should we not have another Life in the name of balance? OR, is Datu going to come back to life, since we've already proved time and time again he just can't die. he cant. period.
I also want to address the Treehemoth with a group of zeds. I know we've said that Skittles told us they dont play well with others, but then we saw them working together on the attack on the colony, yet a lot of people still put forth the theory that the Treehemoth might've provided them clear for an escape at Cain in this episode as it would fight others attacking, I think this instance is enough to totally debunk that going forward. Any other thoughts here?
First listen. Wow
After they give Datu the shot, was that his heart thumping or mine?
*Speechless*
WOW, WOW, WOW! Awesome episode!
I need some of Tanya's super powered muscle relaxant to calm me down a bit, I'm still trembling :britt:
On the podcast: his. But i wouldn't be surprised if it was yours too...Quote:
Originally Posted by Grognaurd
Holy sh!t double wammy....man-oh-man, I'm just starting to calm down from that. Nate (Saul), you really made me feel that, well done!
Datu 'ol buddy, I really thought you'd pull through, sorry to see you go. Lizzie, you were brave to the end.
While listening I was starting to think this just might be the moment that Burt has survived for. Thought maybe he would show up in time with Riley to hold them off while they get away and die doing so, but nope. His big moment is yet to come.
What a powerful episode. As a grown man with kids thinking about if i had lost my wife she had the same issue losing a lot of blood thankfully my wife was fine. This brought me to tears I couldn't even listen to it again I will after work but what great episode very emotional. It actually surprised me I figured datu but not lizzy
I wasn't really sure whether Datu would go or not. I thought maybe something like they get separated when it was time for him to turn. I'm glad his death was peaceful, in a way. Depending on what happens to his body I wouldn't be TOO surprised if he ended up as a special (if Ink gets him somehow). Unlikely, at this point, I think. We'll see.
As for Lizzy... man, that blindsided me. I knew someone was going because... well "Life and Death." We got the life, and then Datu died so... Well, I was frustrated because I didn't see any of this supposed foreshadowing that KC tells me he put in. I guess I'll have to wait his response here to see what he was referring to.
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grognaurd
At some point during this episode I became certain that Lizzy would die, and then when Datu died I thought "no, she won't, then". I figured Life and Death would be an equal exchange of one life for one death. And I suppose it was, actually, since Datu basically died a few episodes ago when he was bit, the clock was just running down. I don't remember the actual point when I became certain, but I don't want to go back and listen to find it because this episode wrecked me, and I don't really want to feel like that again. But these deaths were handled with such tact and care... You just know that the person who wrote them cares about them as much (and more) as you do.
Anyhow... I think Datu's saying that Samantha was there with them might be more than in spirit. Not like, "oh she's standing over your shoulder as a zombie, dun dun dun". But, I think Ink might have used her for something other than sport. Perhaps turning her into an Inkling, or using her as a breeder for the more advanced kind. It always struck me as odd that the biters would have an arena for storing humans as food, when capturing them usually results in the deaths of many biters. It doesn't seem like an equal exchange. But, if they're being used for experiments, that changes things.
Are you and Datu going to stand over Lil Nik as Jedi master ghosts?Quote:
Originally Posted by LizzyFabre
I hate this but this world that we've all become so attached, it's dangerous. Without loosing people we've come to care for and love than the atmosphere looses something. Our intrepid group has been lucky, far luckier than I think is possible. I will miss these characters very much, the actors did such a wonderful job bringing words to life. KC's writing is fantastic and riveting.
The quietness that we feel and are experiencing now is a true testament to the skill of all the wonderful people involved in this production.
Thank you.
I'm here :) Yeah, Lizzy's death is foreshadowed more by medical circumstances rather than Datu's more physical transition. Her symptoms starting in 43 were meant to lead into it in 44. There's a few small plants along the way, including Tanya saying how serious the situation is in Chapter 43. Had they stayed in Dunbar much longer they both would have died. If it wasn't extremely serious, she wouldn't have risked so much to get them to Cain. There's also small bits about Lizzy's exact medical condition that caused her death, which was that she bled out from not passing the placenta, and it becoming partially detached.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ser_Capelli
It's difficult to give hints, but also not to be too blatantly obvious. I wanted to ease everyone into the possibility of her death, rather than it being an outright shock. I weighed that when I decided on the title "Life and Death". It gave away a lot and there was much discussion behind the scenes on whether or not it gave too much away. Coming later this week I'll give some more behind the scenes insight as to what went into this episode, which has been planned for a very long time. Just to give a hint as to how long, DJ, who we recorded very early, is coming up on two years old in August.
Ok so then I was right in that all the medical talk was the foreshadowing. As I said before, the storytelling is extremely well done. I was mostly thinking you wouldn't kill her off because how is the baby going to survive, now? Formula, I guess, but does that expire and whatnot? Eh, I dunno, but I was like "there's no way they'll kill the baby and he needs Lizzy for that."Quote:
Originally Posted by Kc
The whole time, though, I was just waiting for Scratch to show up and take the child after hearing where they were on the radio. With their saying "ANYONE come help" I was sure she would be there.
Keeping the title as "Life and Death" was brilliant because it gives Datu's death as a red herring to us thinking Lizzy would be fine. Aahhh I can't wait for the rest of this show. Keep up the great work, KC!
So CJ's holding el niņo, kinda taken over Lizzy's role ATM (come on! Play along!)
Victor promised Saul that he'd take care of Lizzy and el niņo is anything happened to him...
So if Saul dies... Does that mean that CJ and Victor will raise the child together? :)
I doubt it on the CJ part though, she's got way too much to do already...
But please! Don't let it be Pegs...
I thought you were going to suggest that C.J. was going to fill in as stepmother, and kindles a relationship with Saul. Yeah, I'd be o.k. with that. (Mourn first, Saul)Quote:
Originally Posted by Storm
The main obstacle is that C.J. doesn't sound comfortable around babies. I just knew she was going to refer to the baby as 'it.'
Fucking awesome episode.
Was waiting for shit to actually hit the fan, the climax was definitely worth it. Very sad of course, but to keep momentum and story believable they had to go! It is a survival story and as any great horror/post apocalyptic story fan knows, not everyone survives!
I'm looking forward to the return of Scratch. And another appearance from Ink - really brings out the sinister side of the story!
Thanks Kc & all the cast, fabulous chapter as ever!!!
Holy Smoke, you're right!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jannit
It takes a bit of time, but it looks like it works.
http://www.wikihow.com/Lactate
Wouldn't it be great if they both made their reappearances in the same chapter? Then the shit would truly hit the fan!Quote:
Originally Posted by BunnyButters