My brain saw "Tinkerballs" instead of "Tinkerbell", and now can't stop snickering. Yeah, I'm 12. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by YetAnotherBloodyCheek
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My brain saw "Tinkerballs" instead of "Tinkerbell", and now can't stop snickering. Yeah, I'm 12. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by YetAnotherBloodyCheek
Guys, Burt CANNOT be in my wedding. He'll probably have blood in his beard.Quote:
Originally Posted by nikvoodoo
His speech would probably be lifted from JAWS anyway . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by LizzyFabre
"Marriage is a battle, like the battle of Waterloo. And the idea was, the shark comes to the nearest man and that man, he'd start poundin' and hollerin' and screamin' and sometimes the shark would go away. Sometimes he wouldn't go away. Sometimes that shark, he looks right into you. Right into your eyes. You know the thing about a shark, he's got...lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll's eye . . . I mean, uh not that Lizzy's a shark, it's just--I mean, I didn't really have any time to prepare a . . . congratulations, uh . . . and may your first child be a masculine child."
Yeah I've been wondering this myself. I wonder if this means Ink an co. Have moved on from the hospital? We gotta assume Michael is going to check it out again considering the chamber of horrors Riley and Kalani found in the basement. If it took Michael four months to think of checking it out again I'm gonna be pretty Damn disappointed in him. The only logical explanation I can think of is Ink moved out of there and cleaned it out enough that there's nothing interesting left. Which leads me back to the idea that he's moving on to bigger plans.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7oddisdead
My brain keeps telling me that Michael and crew check on all the old haunts, including the hospital, and turn up nothing of interest except for long cold trails.... The zombos have moved on. The more animalistic amongst them have been Naturally Selected out of the pool and only the strong and the smart survive. And I'm thinking they are pretty damned smart by now....Quote:
Originally Posted by HardKor
I agree that bigger plans are in the works. The Little Ones were not the crowning achievement. They were just one more step forward in the evolution/design of the New Race.... (:tinfoil: seems appropriate right here)
Well, you may not be able to notice the blood depending on the tux and accessories that your man chooses for his guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by LizzyFabre
Then again, he will probably hog all the tuna salad at the reception and end up propped up next to the DJ clutching a piece of battered steel quietly weeping.... What a buzz kill!
But I thought Burt would be the perfect choice to give away the bride.Quote:
Originally Posted by LizzyFabre
I can tell you from experience, once blood dries it combs out of beards rather easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by LizzyFabre
Most if my thoughts have already been covered by others, but the part I can't get over is Michael's shift in personality.
It seems like every time he talks now, I can't even recognize it as Michael Cross. He has become a pushover. He calls CJ on lying to Saul and Vic and she threatens retaliation like he is an AWOL soldier and Michael instantly crumbles.
Pegs goes in to her lets be friends speech and tells him he is fragile and weak, and he still leaves like all giddy with a big grin on his face. What happened to the Michael that took a shovel to a guys face for hurting one of his friends, or stood up to Marcus for lying to the colony or took charge in Irwin and rallied some troops to stand up to a superior officer and delay the nuke detonation or brought a zombie body back for testing even though he was ordered not to? What happened to that guy?
AWESOME EPISODE. Mostly due to the ending. I wonder if, and I apologize if this has been covered, maybe Randy is the ultimate version of what Ink is going for. Except Randy turned on Ink and is helping out Michael. That'd be interesting than just being another "Boss" that will have to be defeated. Either way, I am pumped for the next chapter. Looks like, if the next chapter picks up where Michael left off, we will have a baby too.
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Originally Posted by 7oddisdead
you forgot...
no beard = Lady
Skittles is hanging out with Nurse Brit. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by LiamKerrington
Seriously, I don't think we've seen the last of Skittles (at least I hope not). I can see Skittles spotting Scratch (and maybe other Mallers) running from a pack of zombies. He helps them get to safety like he did with Kalani and Angel at the base. He takes them in not knowing what bad news they are. Later he runs into Burt and Riley. When he recognizes Riley, he invites them back to his safe house where things gets real interesting.
I'd say it's more likely that The Colony gets overrun and they have to get to Dunbar where Saul and Victor re-negotiate the deal with CJ. Besides it looks like CJ may be heading back toward her controlling ways that led to the original downfall of Dunbar. There were people who had left Dunbar because they were tired of CJ's leadership, that may happen at the colony too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Merlin1274
Is that a ring in your pocket or are you just glad to see me. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by pmchawk
I agree it's just foreshadowing. It will be a way to pick up the pace on what's about to come to get set up for some serious action and story that will lead to a lot of answers and begin the final resolution. We probably won't hear much from Michael and the soldiers in the next couple chapters other than maybe brief narratives of "We've been doing _____ for ____ weeks now..." or "Today we found ______". Most likely the next few chapters will focus on the other "groups" (Burt/Riley, Kelly/Tanya, Saul/Victor/Lizzy) and stories of their 4 months.Quote:
Originally Posted by YetAnotherBloodyCheek
Come on now, we can't just skip ahead 4 months until we get a very special "How the Scratch stole Christmas" episode.
My guess is that the stress he's under has changed. He seemed aloof before the outbreak, full of stress when he took command after the out break but he's different when someone he's someone else is in charge. Even still, he's different when Kimmet was in charge vs the way he is when CJ is in charge. I just agree that he IS different.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unit9014
He is different but he's not a different person. A LOT has changed for the man since those first few months after Z-day. Our little Mikey has even grown up some....Quote:
Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor
At this point, Michael doesn't see that anyone (CJ) has hurt his friends or even put them in danger. So no need to be the shovel swinger. Yet.....
Just a side thought, did it sound like Nate Geez and Blair Wayland were not in the studio recording at the same time? There seemed to be a pause in between each of their lines and the 'chemistry' seemed a bit off.
In pretty much every situation where someone else was 'in charge' and he was the right hand man.. Angel as his commanding officer, Burt takes charge in the tower, Marcus in charge of the Colony, Kimmet in charge of Irwin... Michael still had a take charge personality and still stood up and spoke his mind and did what needed to be done; for some reason he doesn't seem to be the same with CJ.
Could it be because he likes her leadership more than the others? because she is a woman? because he feels in the other scenarios it didn't work out well so he wants to change it up? maybe he feels CJ is giving him enough freedom to do what he wants so no need to take charge on his own?
I don't know the exact reason but it is very noticeably different and a very drastic shift in his basic personality, without much of an explanation as to why the change has occurred.
At the end of this episode Michael mentions how optimistic they were. Maybe that is the thing that has changed, the stress is less and he is feeling optimistic and so less 'on edge' so he is relaxing and letting go of the reigns a bit. I don't know.
Kc Ive always enjoyed the cliff hangers bring it on. Not kissing ass but I dig how every episode I can still be hanging on at this point. I don't even mind the wait these days. I've been so excited this season but haven't been on the forums lately. I'm still reading pages on here and all but my 2 cents is that and hearing that last line about randy made me grin. I have no speculation right now I'm just going to stick my tin foil hat and be in the corners reviewing evidence with Tanya
Yeah I was noticing the same thing, you are spot on... just a little gap in between their lines that sounded unnatural and it didn't flow together like a normal conversation would.Quote:
Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor
Sad. :( We were definitely together. We even wrastled!Quote:
Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor
Yeah, you're right. He does roll over easily when CJ talks. Could be her charisma or it could be that everyone else would butt heads with him totally, but CJ does things differently with him. She makes her point, acknowledges his concerns, then gives him some sort of concession. I've noticed this time and again. Michael questions something, she tells him why her plan is the best, pats him on the head for the wittle bwitty idea then gives him a treat and sends him scurrying away happily. Think back when he questioned sending Saul & Victor away and the four months delay in his research.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unit9014
CRAP!!! It STILL took four months for Micheal to make any headway? :tinfoil: (Nothing to see here. Move along, move along.)
Still a very good performance, as always. Love that you wrote 'wrastled'. I just LOVE a southern accent.Quote:
Originally Posted by LizzyFabre
I thought the wrastlin' scene was pretty cool. Especially since we had no clue what it was that y'all were wrastlin' over <wink wink nudge nudge> :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by LizzyFabre
I think you're basically right. In each case, CJ gave what seemed to Michael to be logical reasons for each thing. We got shades of he old Michael at each event but he was diffused, so to speak, by CJ's reasoning. The closest we got to an FU CJ from Michael was when she told him the search and research were not very important and would be 4 months out. When CJ realized that he wasn't buying her reasoning on it, she switched over to appeasement by agreeing that it was at least somewhat important and he would be allowed to do some of it (but had to do it her way) and that it probably wouldn't take 4 months to get to that point. Mikey got almost giddy at that point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor
It didn't take them 4 months to start searching. Just 4 months to find anything..... I guess Muldoon's idea on how to find them didn't pan out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor
Some more thoughts on Leadership
RE: Kelly
When in a position in power, it is easy to task someone with a crappy job (laundry) just to be a jerk, but it is better to find the best person for the job and to find something they would enjoy doing. It is interesting that in Chapter 4 that Kelly thought the journals were a waste of time (@WAFanCast, nice catch) now she may become the linch pin to unraveling the mystery
RE: Burt & Riley
We are taught that we should seek win-win situations. That is right, but when an impass is reached, decisions must be arbitrated in favor of the customer and in this case the customer is the colony as a whole. AWOL and desertion are terrible for morale, but what is even worse is a couple of high profile malcontents. Like Michael said about Saul, he cannot be controlled, but can be pointed in the right direction. Task Burt and Riley with recon, it is required.
Very well said, Grog! A good leader helps people find the best seat on the bus. Kelly has, as a lawyer, a distinct set of skills. Good for Michael on working with Kelly to figure out how best to apply those in this situation. Even better since he's the one that started the "Kelly is, well Kelly she's great" WA meme...Quote:
Originally Posted by Grognaurd
I think you really nailed it with the Burt/Riley bug out. To best protect the Colony as a whole, the lie about them is, I hate to say it, necessary. I just wonder if it was necessary to lie to Saul and Co?
I wonder how the situation would have played out if CJ hadn't been with Michael at that point? I'm pretty sure that he would have definitely told Saul, Vic, and Lizzy. He may have eventually have come to the same conclusion about the "general story" though. But I'm not sure....
I hope that when we see a zombie horde they see a big fat jolly guy in a red suit and hat as a zombie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooer
So my real life job has changed a bit and I am more responsible for the logistics for my company. This has got me thinking about Burt and Riley running around on there own. How much food is actually available? We know that the monsters were running around eating scads of food because Saul and Angel witnessed them eating food in a store. There just can't be that much food left. This brings me to the actual amount of fresh water available in LA. The colony has access to water but if Burt and Riley are out and about where can they get a consistent supply of drinkable water? Then there is fuel for the car. Not to mention tires and various parts to keep it running. An apocalypse like this is just a logistical nightmare.
I won't go so far as to say the show has turned to utter crap but I was wondering the same thing. This was very dramatic and it sort of got on my nerves. I didn't feel like there was a valuable progression of the story. Just a lot of swooning and then "until next time on...". Idk, I'm not really feeling optimistic about the show since it re-aired. We either seem to get all zombies or all drama. I don't need a saturation of either per show I think I'd like to see more balance like there was in previous seasons. The other word that strikes me is formulaic.Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronarturus
I can see that KC is trying to put all the characters in certain places for the show to go in a certain direction, which is kinda what the writer is sposed to do but it seems too obvious to me. The Lizzy/Saul parts in particular....I didn't even feel like they'd been reunited before they were off and gone to Point B in a very staged way. I hope it improves.
ah, the magic of fiction. it solves aaallllll those pesky problems!Quote:
Originally Posted by trubkir
but seriously, it does.
The soapy stuff could be sooo much worse. Starting around season 4 of Buffy, I found myself frequently exasperated to the point of screaming "Less soap, more stakes!" at the TV.
I had another thought, what if that is how we get Scratch back into the picture? She knew Lizzy was preggers and when the baby is due. What if she was scoping out the colony, saw them leave and tracked them to Dunbar. She waits for the baby to be born, kidnaps it and holds it ransom in exchange for Pegs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Condor
Oh oh oh... Or maybe she tries keeping the baby as the one she never had? Maybe instead of taking Pegs life in retaliation for her brother, now she claims a new life to raise in his place. She takes the boy, names him latch and tries to raise him as her own.
I too miss skittles- even though I still think he is the true puppet master of this all and we will soon find out his deep dark Jeckyl/Hyde secrets!!!!
I will scream ":mad:UUUGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!:mad:" if there is a Hybrid-baby-with-the-key-to-survival chase scene at the end of this story. This seems to be where things are heading BUT, KC has a knack for pointing the story into an obvious direction and pulling a rabbit out of a hat, or something. This keeps the story fresh an non-cliche. Anyway, if this is the case, I'm sure it will be done well, none the less.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unit9014
BSG: Hera, Human-Cylon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbFWStEZYxw
V: Elizabeth, Human-Reptilian Visitor Alien
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X-Files: William, Human-What ever the hell this show was about.
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Sup' Peeps! :p
I FINALLY got to listen to the last episode!!! Its been insane here, and not listening has killed me, but i wanted to have time to really sit and listen.
This was once again, an AWESOME one... I'm loving the character building we are getting to kick off this season. Anyway, I think we will hear from Burt and Riley for the next chapter...dont expect to hear much if anything from Michael, CJ and gang for a little while, because he pretty much said all was well for 4 months... And that last line about randy sent a quiver of happiness up my spine! Sadly, i gotten run so i cant dive into theories right now, but i shall be back after listening to this episode 1 or 10 more times before the next one!
Was glad to see the cats welcome Vic back! lol
REZ you may have a point. Would not be the first time in this series that has happened.. But We shall see come Monday...
IMHO, Michael's a non-com by training. As long as someone is around to plan strategy and he doesn't totally disagree with them, he's willing to take direction. And CJ is mostly aware of how far she can push people, so she usually compromises just enough to keep the operation going.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unit
Michael's also a little bit passive and emo, as shown by his relationship with Pegs or letting everyone talk him into a party, but that's why we love him.