Ok, I see. No, she won't connect the suited zombie wie Bill Roberts right now; but so does not anyone else - yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grognaurd
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Ok, I see. No, she won't connect the suited zombie wie Bill Roberts right now; but so does not anyone else - yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grognaurd
I really think that Michael expresses major characteristics of an INTJ, if you don't know what that is you can google portrait of an INTJ. Basicly they're stratigists who lead when they think that they can do a better job than the current person. If they think the leader is leading well they usually tend to stay off to the side assisting whenever they think it is required of them. We haven't really seen Michael in a second in command roll because everybody that he has grudgingly allowed to lead has done such a crappy job that he really didn't have any other choice but to lead. The times that he allowed others to lead, I.E. burt, was in a time that he personally couldn't be there. Kemit was only in charge until Michael had enough with the chain of command and figured he was no longer fit for duty and took things into his own hands. Now he sees CJ, and she is doing one hell of a job leading. Sure there might be some PR issues that will need to be addressed, but look at how much they've gotten done in the past few days. She managed to grab an entire group of people rangle them into submission and accept her orders as if they were law. People began to question Michael within the first couple of weeks of them settling the tower and that was after all the barricades had been in place, and they had water and plenty of food and living space. Michael simply didn't care about what the people thought about him or the way he lead. He saw it only as a problem when it began to create problems with his plans. He was their only figure head for them to vent at. Now ther is CJ and Michael, CJ is the new figure head in which people will vent, and Michael can now focus on the real shyte that we've been craving for the past 9 months.
* claps hands*
REAL TALK!
ZOMG! I thought that would be too technical and too self-serving so I never brought it up. Its me! LOL, I even wrote that in my about me essay in my latest job application, LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Sneak
http://www.personalitypage.com/INTJ.html
Toss in a bit of Aspergers for good measure
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome
Me, too - sort of. I'm pretty evenly split between E and I. The rest is pretty solid, though. I definitely prefer to let someone else have the responsibility of leadership, but I have little patience for inept leaders and get antsy, crabby, and insubordinate when forced to submit to them. I'm the kind of guy that ends up filling power vacuums or starting revolutions. I doubt I'd be remotely as successful in an apocalypse as someone like Michael, though. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Grognaurd
I have said this before, but his problem is himself. He tortures himself with quilt. He breaks at the start of Season 2. The people do not abandon him. To me We're Alive is his lesson's leadership. He will stand down and let CJ lead until he becomes aware she is making bad choices. This time I hope he has the strength to correct it before it spirals out of control
With the elevated intelligence level of crows, could Ink be communicating to them and using them as recon?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grognaurd
Figured I'd jump onto this crow thing you've had going for awhile
Man....quilts are the WORST man. Put me on the rack, but not under the warm comforting sunggliness of a quilt!Quote:
Originally Posted by Grognaurd
;)
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Originally Posted by nikvoodoo
Ha! I was wondering if anybody else had caught that!
I guess it is possible, but I feel the crows are more KC communicating with us. But, I just do not know. Is someone in the story as crazy as I am and writing they heard a crow in their journal? Lol. Hmmm... Shifting over to the crow thread for some more half baked thoughts
Doh!Quote:
Originally Posted by nikvoodoo
I just told SCBubba The other day i am dyslexic and did not learn the difference between b and d until 5th grade. Yup, I still get my b and d and my g and q wrong at times lol
"Nevermore"Quote:
Originally Posted by Grognaurd
Not a problem, it gave me the laugh I needed this morning... *snickers* quilt!Quote:
Originally Posted by Grognaurd
I rib in good fun. I still occasionally put a q into guilt and then wonder why it looks so wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grognaurd
Alright, trying to get better at multiple replying rather than 100 posts all broken up....lets see...
Starting?Quote:
Originally Posted by YetAnotherBloodyCheek
Tanya: "...That and animals are a lot nicer than people"Quote:
Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor
Kelly: "Until they try to bite you"
Tanya: "So I guess not a lot has changed for me"
*Both laugh*
This could be just jokingly addressing that the zombies are TRYING to bite you, or Tanya making light that she was bitten. Not 100% sure which, but at first listen I thought this was joking about her bite. Upon second listen it DOES sound like a dodge...
Love the nod to the episode "Oh! It's Elisa!", well played!Quote:
Originally Posted by LizzyFabre
Another first impression: We read Saul's journal, I thought that meant Saul didn't bring his journal with him (or had to start a new one), which might've been a cue that we finally hit 'present time' story telling. But they said 'it's what he wrote before he left', so I'm guessing he still has a journal. Damn. Thought we hit a change in narrative.....looking too hard.
I did like how as soon as WND mentioned Peg's uselessness she shows up as Farmer Green Jeans all of a sudden. It's a Nikvoodoo Kc Conspiracy! Next thing we know, Charcoal Nurse Britt will show up riding a Little one...
Alright, I dont have much in the way of predictions here, so in the immortal words of Datu in this past episode: "Ok, You keep real!"
EDIT: Alright, can't get outta here without some sort of prediction....due to michael's reaction of Burt leaving...do we think he gives chase? Perhaps he and his trusted co-horts? Giving us the final nail in the 'unity' coffin and seperating us from the Colony just before it falls to a final Ink attack? I mean, Pegs was really optimistic about the crops, and anytime we get optimism in this show.....well....it's not good. Maybe we come back just as it's falling and air rescue those who didnt go on the retrieve burt mission...Tanya, pegs, and Datu?
Yes, this is the debate I had with myself inside my head. Were you there too? O_oQuote:
Originally Posted by LiamKerrington
Ugh, I clicked like for Nik and Thisonegirl. I hope I didnot fat finger dislike. Sorry
I think the pixie dust gave the eyeless newts telepathy...Quote:
Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor
The comments about Kelly knowing Ink got me thinking and I don't think she would know him directly, atleast not in the way we are connecting the dots.Quote:
Originally Posted by LiamKerrington
What We we know about Kelly before the incident;
She is a lawyer
She had a sister with 2 kids
She was babysitting the kids when it happened
To me this doesn't make a lot of sense, why would a lawyer be at home watching a siblings kids? On a school day..
Time to jump to wild conclusion with no evidence.
Kelly's sister may be connected to Ink. The kids were being kept hidden possibly under protection during ink's trial. Perhaps she (Tommy's mother) was the judge or the prosecuting attorney. He says something along the lines of "if mom didn't dump us with you none of this would have happened".
I had noticed that and I had thought maybe Michael had come around and given her a task "off-camera". But, if it is another lie, that's interesting. What would her motives be? She's always thought she's above laundry, which makes sense with her past as a lawyer, but does she hate laundry enough for that to be the only reason why?Quote:
Originally Posted by nikvoodoo
Hmmm... I took it to be a request to be on the field team. I would have put her to work on the research team. However, we know someone has a master list and if Kelly is not doing her assigned job, it will be found out really quickly. So, she is either working two jobs or there spying for CJ.
I would have to kill you, if I tell you ... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor
I do not like this line of thinking, and therefore its probably gonna happen...Quote:
Originally Posted by Grognaurd
but truthfully, Kelly going to help tayna seems the most logical step(in my mind at least) if shes wanting to be involved in the hunting party. by doing so she's showing a willingness to work. to actually contribute in any way she can. that's the kind of thing that gets noticed...unless you work at a shitty dairy in Illinois.
but onto the "unity makes strength" ideas. while most have noticed that the group at the colony seems to be going in all different directions...coming apart at the seams if you will. it makes me wonder where all this is headed.
hmm...if only our old tower people had a place to go...ya know, one that's secure...and maybe two bro-dudes already there...hopefully they would know the layout of the place...you know its happening, hell, its already happening...
#kaw?seebelow
Hey all. This is my first post, I've been listening since the beginning but what I've heard so far this season has lit the fire under me to finally post. So far, through the first 5 installments, this story has become a Post Apocalyptic Soap Opera.
WHERE ARE THE ZOMBIES??
That's why we started listening to this thing for in the first place.
This is beginning to feel a lot like LOST. Years of anticipation and promises, yet in the final season, it feels like maybe this whole thing was just made up as the writers went along and maybe all of our questions wont be answered. Maybe that's completely false, but there's been hardly a mention of zombies in the first 5 installments this season. And there really weren't a whole lot in the second half of last season. It's just drama and in-fighting. The story feels stalled.
I'll keep listening, because like LOST, I have to see where this train takes me.
Eh, I wasn't too worried about it. I saw your like and thought that since the rib was between us three, I couldn't care less about a fourth person disliking... Turns out it was you... Are you sure it wasn't mixed feelings? :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Grognaurd
This is the ground work for what is too come.. This is the good stuff. The stuff needed to make the end make sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedStarr
I'm telling you, it's witchdictor's newts...Quote:
Originally Posted by thisonegirl
They joined Ink and I am just a voodoo doll zombie.
No wait, I laughed at Khan's superior intellect and upper body strength and he put creatures in my ears, and now hours seem like days waiting for the next episode. I wish I could "buy" the (Burt's) book to pass the time.
Finally getting a chance to chime in here....
I liked this episode. There was enough of pretty much every character that I felt like things were starting to be drawn together.
We start with Saul, Vic, and Lizzy leaving. And with end with Burt and Riley(?) leaving. In between, we get some great interactions between characters: Michael & Kelly, Kelly & Tanya, Michael & Pegs, Burt & CJ (with Glenn thrown in for effect), Pegs & Garden Guy.
The tease with Michael's arm was awesome. I actually groaned out loud in the car when Pegs' voice chimed in there. :D
Kelly and the laundry detail comment... "Comedy gold, Jerry!"
The Burt and CJ show down was great! CJ didn't even know she was being played... That's the big weakness in believing you are always the smartest person in the room... you don't realize your weaknesses. Poor little CJ (bitch!).
Kelly and Tanya discussion was awesome. I think we're getting close to bringing some things together that have been put out there for the listener along the way. The character's have not had the "information sharing" that the listener has been privy to this whole time. And as I believe we know from Kc himself, nothing is true until it is "known" by a character in the story. So maybe we will start getting some resolution to old stuff as Kelly goes through the journals and Tanya's notes. I think it's the perfect job for her right now (unless she's a CJ spy.... please don't be that!)
Tanya (aka, Artful Dodger) has long been one of my favorites in the show and her lines (and delivery of them) were awesome in this episode as well. The back and forth about bites.... Love it!
Chapter title: we've had cases in the past (recent or otherwise) where the chapter title didn't make sense until part 3 of 3. This one may be the case as well. Does it mean that the original "heroes" (Michael and Co) will be unified and strong away from the Colony? Does it mean that the Colony will be unified and strong with CJ's management? Does it mean that the zombies are unified and strong and that we will see that played out against either the Colony or another group? Or does it mean that since nobody is unified in this chapter, nobody is really strong right now and they have to learn that lesson the very hard way?
Well, no matter how it turns out I feel like we are getting close to some pay off for all the recent build up. And I have really been enjoying all the character interaction and story arc continuation in Season 4 so far.
Michael's Arm
Yes, we almost heard the story, but more importantly, Michael is ready to talk about it. He almost certainly arrived at Ft Irwin with a cast, unless Tanya is a literal miracle worker, and he avoids talking about it with the Wingman extraordinaire for several months.
I see good things. It is a level of maturity we have not seen. It is time to step up, knock some heads and start herding cats
There...there were enough zombies to detonate two nuclear devices in two locations to wipe them out.....Quote:
Originally Posted by RedStarr
As we always say, these are the episodes that make us care about what happens to the characters in the action episodes. These set up episodes make everything worth while. Though I will say that if you go back into the Season 3 chapter forums, you'll see a lot of people registering the same complaints about the pace of the beginning of last season.
It can't be all fast paced action all the time.
Hey, mate!Quote:
Originally Posted by RedStarr
Thank you for sharing your thoughts, and feel free to join in more often! Any thought is much appreciated ...
As for your first posting:
*ahem* *cough, cough*
We're Alive - A Story of Survival
So after all a story about human beings and human behaviour ...
Also: #37-1 started with what? Exactly: Killing Little Ones, aka zombies ...
Best wishes!
Liam
Didn't you just say you were finally convinced Kelly isn't an operative for the mallers?.....can't stay off the "It all leads back to Kelly" train, can you? :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by nikvoodoo
I can see where he is coming from. The past few episodes have been a bit shlow, but that's what you have to expect when starting a new season with any show, you can't just rush in guns blazing. Well, I guess you can, *points to 37.1* but you can't expect to have constant action. There has to be character development, and advancements in their understanding. If all their advancement came from split second Doctor Who like sparks, then we wouldn't be able to organize our own thoughts and plot the deaths of the characters! Ahem... I mean plot the survival blueprint? Hmm, anyway. View this time like a guiding system, we're being given the clues and motion of the story, and now we can predict and attempt to understand what is going to happen next, and then get them all shattered by the brilliance of KC's writing as we watch our theories get tossed out the window.
Well, I don't remember Kelly knowing about the digital back ups. At least nobody informed her so far that I can remember. So that means someone had to of told her about them. It is possible that Michael did in fact tell her. Also it isn't like this stuff is top secret or anything. I'm pretty sure anybody can just go up and ask to review the files, or at least nobody has indicated that they were not allowed to view them, so if she is a spy then why say she's sent by Michael when Tonya could just happen to walk up to Michael and be like, oh hey, thanks Michael, I don't have carpoltunnel any more. Michael's like, what do you mean? Tonya's like, Kelly, didn't you send her to type up a butt load of documents for me? Michael, No way, cut to Kelly sitting at a computer, and then all of a sudden Kelly's head explodicles all over the monitor, splush... maybe a bit graphic, but you get the idea.
Well here's the problem, I was never convinced she was one but I had a twinge of "Hmmm.....maybe" this episode. Then I just let it go and went with my original feeling on her. Then Kelly goes and says what she says and....Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoff4D
Just caught my ear that Kelly said Michael should do it when clearly he didn't. Or...clearly I don't remember him doing it.
It doesn't say human survival. It's actually the story of Ink's survival. Right Nikvoodoo?Quote:
Originally Posted by LiamKerrington
Darn tootin'!Quote:
Originally Posted by pmchawk
PS: Here's a quick WND #59 Preview: Britt will pronounce your name PM Chalk instead of PMC Hawk
Credit where it's due, it's still a good catch. I just think you might have a complex concerning lawyers....always putting it on kelly's head. So....something in the nikvoodoo past we should know about?Quote:
Originally Posted by nikvoodoo
I don't even see a thread for WND #59 yet and he's already getting promised a reading! And I thought Britt was the one on the dole on WND.....Quote:
Originally Posted by nikvoodoo