yea, im finding the correct one elsewhere, but on the main page (for me) its streaming the wrong one, just trying to see if its just me or notQuote:
Originally Posted by Arthur LaMarche
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yea, im finding the correct one elsewhere, but on the main page (for me) its streaming the wrong one, just trying to see if its just me or notQuote:
Originally Posted by Arthur LaMarche
Scratches, did "we" discuss the little ones bleeding themselves to poison their nails to turn by scratches? Maybe it is too speculative for the WND podcast. Going back to read 37-1 thread.. BRB
Yea, Nik says in WND #55(regarding a scratch to amy) "it can turn you into a little one", however in my earlier post i mentioned/quoted Tanya's autopsy saying that little ones have normal eyes, and normal zeds have cloudy eyes....yet Michael notes Amy's eyes are turning cloudy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthur LaMarche
Original post here: http://www.zombiepodcast.com/forum/s...ll=1#post62891
Eyes are important. Ink has clear eyes, right? When he impersonates Paul, they reference his clear green eyes, but biters 1.0 go cloudy. Inklings have clear eyes, but infected 2.o may get some power up with harder skin and such, but their eyes may still go cloudy
I think the Michael line you reference is with Pegs and the cat.
I guess my point is hat I thought the autopsy referenced self inflicted wounds. We now suspect that a scratch can turn. If it was an inkling, they see, to be using their claws like a Komodo dragon / biter uses their mouth to spread disease and they may be doing it by scratching themselves or others of their kind.
Eyes
Since we never see Amy fully turn, we don't know what her eyes would have looked like fully turned. We also only have points of reference on eyes for a) normal biters (cloudy/dark), b) Ink (clear green), and c) one numbered Little One (clear brown). We don't have examples of the eyes of non-numbered Little Ones to know if they have clear or cloudy/dark eyes.
So..... We're left up in the air on who and how Amy got turned. Dammit! :mad:
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Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor
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Also, I am pretty sure I click dislike when I meant to click like. Is there a way to correct it?
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Chapter 1 the zombies were taking huge chunks out of the dude that honked. Interestingly, Michael wakes up starving in chapter 2. Burt survived starvation pretty well not to mention a drop. Angel a building collapse. Pegs breaks a hammer. Lizzy is an awesome shot. Riley is an empath, Datu fix. No no no no art keep your mouth shut... I keep telling myself that's stupid, but brainstorming requires I provide the crazy crap so someone else can put additional things together to make senseQuote:
Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor
Don't forget Kelly. Kelly is... Kelly, she's great.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthur LaMarche
Hmm, let's see...
Angel Drops a building onto a behemoth, then survives a building collapse.
Kalani survives a plane's crash landing, dies in a helicopter crash.
Lincoln was in Monroe Maryland a week before his assassination, Kennedy was in Marilyn Monroe...
Nah, dead end here.
OK, let's try....
Riley is an empath from the Betazed Quarter in Paris.
R2-DATU fixed the hyper-drive on the Millennium Pelican... Nah, Ive used that R2-DATU joke to death.
Gimme some more Arthur. We're on to something. I can feel it.
Ha haa! No worries. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthur LaMarche
You want Crazy? TOWTM speaks softly, but it is a pretty standard. The others that we understand are more foreign. We can speculate that they are learning to speak English to communicate with eachother, which seems odd because they clearly can communicate without it
So, spin it around. Maybe the survivors are beginning to understand "zombie". Granted this is more complicated, but the contagion, infection, narcotic, alters behavior, physiology and perspective. Why not language?
That sound you're hearing is my brain, exploding! Everybody is infected? Everybody is evolving, whether they've been bitten, scratched or otherwise attacked? If they've already changed enough to be able to understand some zombie speech then what else might have changed?Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthur LaMarche
Say that someone new should arrive who is completely untouched by the contagion, maybe someone off a nuke sub that's been submerged, or an astronaut just down from space. Would the survivors at the Colony have changed so much that the newcomer would mistake them for zombies too? Could they still communicate? Would our heros even realize that they had changed, or would the uninfected person seem like the strange one to them?
I do believe it's time for me to get fitted for a tin-foil hat. Do I need to make my own, or is there a place where I can buy one ready-made?
Just listened to the latest WND (#55, right). Good show!
And thanks for the correct name drop, nik... :)
Arthur - I'm gonna have to think on the whole "everybody is infected" thing. Intriguing, to say the least.
The first thing that comes to mind is an animated short in the bonus features of the "I Am Legend" DVD. Written by Orson Scott Card, it deals with perception and is pretty awesome...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bH2qmXSOJQ
The Colony IS the control group. Marcus would not let them leave. Very few have ever been beyond the walls since the outbreak. Some of the people in the colony may not have been exposed. Here comes the third wave and it is already inside the walls.
Inks Primary Purpose has been to break Quarantines, right? Inject the infection and it is a massive Force Multiplier...
Argh!!! Stupid fat fingers hit the f'n dislike button by mistake..... Can an admin undo that? (nik, Osiris)Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthur LaMarche
Sorry, Arthur.
I have a tin hat, I am immune to dislike. :rolleyes: Craft your's today, you can even put a Jayne Cobb camoflauge on top!Quote:
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RE: SCBubba's .sig fileQuote:
Originally Posted by Arthur LaMarche
LOL EXCEPT Mudslingers...
Not sure if I can undo it. I'll look into it
I listened to Remains of Eastern Bay. First Scratch appearance. I do hear a crow just before The execution of Charlie...Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthur LaMarche
His crime falling asleep on guard duty. Despite the theft of a big rig, Burt's hand cannon, Saul's M16(?) and the zombies raging on his car. More sleeping!
I Also hear the trill/caw I associate with the little ones. Pretty damn close to Saul. Chapter 6 3 of 3 ~ 6:45,. In fact, zombie sounds are the last we hear before we roll back to Michael. There is some drama, but importantly, there is another night cycle before Saul shows up. He thought it best to hunker down instead of trying to get back to the tower. If he was nipped or scratched it could easily be lost in the whiskey wounds.
Successful relisten in my opinion...
Is there a thread to collect little ones soundings or crow sounds. At this point crow could be coincidence. I want to listen to the sweat trial and the walk to the arena. I suspect to hea little ones, but crows would only be ambiance unless they are for more than just Scratch...
Might be a database changeQuote:
Originally Posted by nikvoodoo
Chapter 7
Did not hear a little one in the sweat or tagging. Did hear a crow in the tagging. Foreshadowing Scratch's arrival at the tower. Alternatively, it would be about the time she says...
Better start running!
They go to the arena tomorrow and Kalani is held captive prior to Datu's Capture.
My guess is Scratch and Latch are sent out when the tower falls to try and find it by the gunshots and chaos.
We also are told by Datu that some of the biters change direction.
Interetingly, Michael is too tired to insult Burt after the mission and goes to sleep. That fits, but it also happens when angel slaps him on the shoulder and plants the suggestion of sleep. That's twice
I hear crows at the pumping station. Can't parse this easily. Also, Samantha is going to say some ungodly number of days in captivity. That blows up the above crow, better start running connection. damn. But, the way to acccount for a huge number of days is an aberrant sleep wake cycle, not caused by a body's circadian rhythm. More with the sleep stuff. What did Witch_Doctor call it, necro narcosis? But 20 to one is wayyyy tooooo much compression. Lol. I'll tell you one thing, I am going to have an all I can eat crow buffet if I am wrong on this.
Double damn, it would fit so nicely if Samantha didn't open her mouth...
I am king Arthur and I wear a tinfoil crown lol
Hmmm... Assumption, associate crow with the family and not scratch specifically? Some of the people with CJ were also Family? This works, but its thin ice. This crow thing sounds awesome, but I do not think I can tie it to scratch unless there is yet another backstory and we are running out of time.
I really only had one reaction to this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grognaurd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Y73sPHKxw
Everyone is already infected... I was only going to post the video to be silly, but this just jogged something loose that has been quietly incubating in my brain waiting for the right moment to pop out... This is gonna get weird and disjointed as I go through my chain of thoughts.
Tanya has said that she could discern no difference between infected blood and normal blood. This might be because her training is as a veterinarian and might not have included things like the human side of immunology, microbiology, virology and so on. She may not know what to look for or not recognize something that shouldn't be there. Like the recently discovered giant viruses that were thought to be something else they were so large...
Then my train of thought blew through that station when I came to the realization that:
Maybe Tanya's inability to find anything is because whatever "it" is, it's not out of the ordinary because IT'S BEEN THERE ALL ALONG.
But what is "it?" Surely human microbiologists even in a fictional setting would have found something like that, right? Not if it's hidden in plain sight.
When I started the ""Ink," the origin and meaning of his tattoos..." thread I mentioned in the Hydrocarbons section that the chemical symbol on his wrist resembled Benzo(a)pyrene's carcinogenic interaction with DNA. As I mentioned, A great deal of these hydrocarbons are found in coal tar, oil, fossil fuel, ect., the stuff found underground.
I (think I) penned that well before the Inglewood Haze really came into play. Many Hydrocarbons are/can be gaseous or be easily aerosolized. I've also mentioned my suspicions about the nature of ancient viral DNA that has been incorporated into the Human Genome. (Articles HERE and HERE.)
Then it struck me. We're not already "infected." We are already latent "Zombies." Of the entirety of the Human Genome, 98% of it is Non-Coding. The Hydrocarbon laden haze attacks the DNA directly like a carcinogen and unlocks the non-coding DNA and forces it to code. (Again?) Now, some of this Non-Coding DNA does actually have function, it's just not part of the blueprint that makes us Human. It is likely though, that like the ancient viruses, some of the code are genetic fossils of pieces what we used to be. Different people of distinct genetic histories and/or different parts get unlocked and get expressed resulting in the menagerie of zombies: biters, runners, jumpers, behemoths and so on.
TOWTM and the Inklings? He just might understand what is going on and is steering this retro-evolution to suit his needs. The hospital? Ch. 23 3/3 @4:18 "Blood soaked bed was surrounded by countless needles." I'll bet he is/was experimenting with drug/steroid/hydrocarbon cocktails to select the perfect latent DNA activation.
This brings me back to the Arena. Something tells me that it wasn't just feeding and entertainment for the horde. I think it is more likely that it was training and selection for new Inklings.
Where's my Hat? :tinfoil:
(And here I was, fearing my well of inspiration was going dry.)
I like this idea of an Inkling training ground, where they learn to play with their food.Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Shirt
As I mentioned sometime back somewhere else: When Angel and Riley hide in the pile of dead bodies there is a strange noise which pretty much resambles the average "cry" of Little Ones ... And to make things worse: Samantha was a fertile woman, so what else except for food or fun could she have been used in the Arena after she was dragged away from R2-DATU?Quote:
Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor
Best wishes!
Liam
I'm a fan of the new format. Fucking recap. More Britt. Less no Britt.
You know what is better than Brombacher alone? Listening to Brombacher while drinking Krombacher! :D
http://www.lieferheimdienst.de/uploa...r-pils-033.jpg
Yes, you did mention this. It makes better sense under this light.Quote:
Originally Posted by LiamKerrington
Ah yes.... this was my beer of choice back in my Germany days:Quote:
Originally Posted by YetAnotherBloodyCheek
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Originally Posted by LiamKerrington
And another thing about that... Kc has said that:
To which I agree. I believe he was the one that pointed on the YAP podcast interview out that Jaws was scarier because you didn't see the shark. What the imagination of the viewer/listener fills in on its own is often far more terrifying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kc
But, Angel said (in Ch. 8; 3/3 @ 15:21) after they have escaped the waterworks and "lost" Michael, "Did you see his body? Did you see him dead?"
We didn't hear what the fate of Samantha was. She may have become Dinner & a Show for the horde, training for the Inklings... even tested for selection as an Inkling. (I also seem to recall there might have been conjecture about her eyes being green and the Green Eyes theory(s) kicking around here on the forums.)
Will she return as an Inking? Not sure, but the possibility is there. Of the (assumed) twelve numbered ones, seven have been killed.
Big time LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by YetAnotherBloodyCheek
Beer, the one thing that expresses our humanness best. If you still have what it takes - hops, malt, water and a decent brewery around the corner of Libery Park, you are not lost even during the zombicalypse.
GRATZ' on 100!Quote:
Originally Posted by YetAnotherBloodyCheek
Congratulations Mr. And Mrs. Wayland!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!