Could it also be "It only takes one" call from LA to push Michael to leadership and caring a whole alot.Quote:
Originally Posted by HardKor
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Could it also be "It only takes one" call from LA to push Michael to leadership and caring a whole alot.Quote:
Originally Posted by HardKor
Well I'm going to go out on the line and officially state that if radio active super zombie force grows in Boulder that the "one" is referring to "one" nuke!Quote:
Originally Posted by HardKor
As a reality tv show on the Post Apocalyptic DIY Home network? Hrm... I'd spend a few sickles on a subscription to that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabbage Patch
Yes, my guess is that call is going to create a whole lot of conflict.Quote:
Originally Posted by UndeadSweeper
Michael will be torn between trying to find a way to help save whoever's left of Saul/Lizzy/Burt/Victor etc and trying to find Pegs/Kelly.
I think the call is also going to spur a lot more conflict between Kimmet and Michael as Kimmet probably won't want to allocate out any other resources, especially with his current opinion of Michael.
Great episode! My heart was pounding the whole time, especially when the drums got going!
On the surface it doesn't make much sense for the survivors to be approaching Fort Irwin on Interstate 40. Interstate 15, which leads from Las Vegas, is the shorter route between Boulder and Fort Irwin. However, to get to I-15 the survivors would have to travel across the Rocky Mountains to get to Utah. That route is regularly closed due to heavy snowfall every winter, even with regular snow clearance by people who work in the mountainous areas. Under WA conditions, with no one to plow the roads I can imagine them becoming impassable.
The safer alternate route is to travel south along the eastern face of the Rockys into New Mexico, then catch I-40 in Alburquerque and follow it all the way to the Fort Irwin area. There are a few areas in northern Arizona that could be tricky, but there's much less chance of the route being blocked by snow drifts.
It says a lot that the survivors could make the drive from Boulder to Fort Irwin without the roads being clogged by abandoned cars or hordes of zombies. Makes it seem like the threat from regular Biters is pretty badly diminished.
Another thought on the longer southerly route, it passes through Colorado Springs and Albuquerque which both house major military installations. These would be good stop points for equipment. Also, they wouldn't be dealing with as much snow in the mountains, can you say Donner Party? What is throwing me off is didnt they say the evac point was on I-70?
I about shit my pants when I realised the call was coming from the LA sat phone. OMG massive suspense I seriously can't wait till the next chapter. This is killing me. Please please make all seasons available to buy on disc! Fort irwin falls micheal datu hope and tony robins escape to LA ( the colony) and rescue Saul lizzy burt cj victor and mow down scratch with the mini gun on the black hawk. They jet off to England and come see me for a pint of the local ale and re-tell their story to me first hand!! Then we go on a huge zombie killing spree and create an anti-dote to the z virus using the blood of Saul and lizzies love child. Save the planet and become heros. Oh yeah and Tanya snuffs it. Lol
Just finished listening to the episode.
So, of mixed emotions about this one. (Meaning the content of course not in that it was 15 to 20 different kinds of Fabulous)
Datu and hope got back, and maybe Datu can take care of the Pelican! Yay! But, will it really matter? Human society went from a sustainable 100K to about... three to four thousand? CODI might be able to help, but we'll have to see how effective it'll be. I don't see it turning the,tide with a bunch of smart inklings, but maybe with good positioning. But Michael was right before, the human race is kinda done, at this point, even assuming Irwin can deal with the coming onslaught.
Of course, I forgot all about that when I heard the SatPhone ringing, and I had to resist the urge to squee and jump up and down.
I bet its Scratch. Ooooooh! If Fort Irwin does turn away the horde, it'll likely be at substantial cost and might the newly organized mallers think that Fort Irwin would be a mighty fine place to live?
And now I've read the rest of the thread. I might back whoever says Kimmets days in leadership are close to ending, Michael's digging himself a pretty deep hole of insubordination too. He's either going to get a promotion or a demotion at the end of all this, if they live through it.
Yes, Tanya turning would be goddamned perfect.
Actually, its hard to say who's on the other end of the Sat Phone. Its only been two days since the shenanigans at The Colony. Did Saul et al. bring the broken phone with them? Even if they did, The Resourceful Radioman is the only one qualified to fix it, and I'm sure he was listening in to the radio traffic of the battle going on. That would be two days for Scratch to torture the info out of people, assemble a group to scour LA for Pete abd Glenn who, I'm certain, would probably not stick around if they knew what was coming, pick them up, fix the SatPhone, etc. But, that's a short time frame for Saul and company too. Hmm.
Bob Vila eat your heart out!Quote:
Originally Posted by wh33t
Or else someone else will, for christ's sake there's ZOMBIES afoot, RUN BOB VILA RUN!!!!
Yeah... that one was nearly as good as the epic: "SHOOT THAT BITCH IN THE FACE!" from Season 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by HardKor
I also like the call-back to Datu's "Tanks n' shit" from Season 1...
Right. Because it isn't. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by wh33t
Yeah, thanks. I was wondering how the timeline worked out, but was too lazy to check.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Cabbage Patch
^This guy ladies and gentlemen. This guy.
Alright, I'm gonna let the Mr. Whiskers out of the bag....The title means "It only takes one.....twinkie, to stop Ink's onslaught of the human race"Quote:
Originally Posted by UndeadSweeper
M. Night Shamamamalamalamalan plot twist is INK IS WOODY HARRELSON, and all he wants is a G.D. TWINKIE!
I believe that was the "Rendezvous point" where everyone would meet up from Evac and pool resources and convoy to Irwin, since they admittedly couldn't fly back on the fuel they have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguine
I can't help but think of the scene in Robin Hood: Men in Tights when the blind guy, Blinkin, made the realization that Ahchoo, Dave Chapelle's character, is black.Quote:
Originally Posted by UndeadSweeper
Are We Bored Yet?
Awesome episode!!! This was a fun blend of acting, action, and drama. I wonder if those turds who were complaining about the series being slow are still complaining... This episode featured a nice blend of narration, dialogue, and action... I especially like the way Kc and Grayson are able to weave the narration bits into the story without it seeming like the story has to 'stop' for some exposition before moving forward again with another scene: its fed in just the right amounts so we don't get lost and don't get removed from what is happening, either.
King Datu the Lucky Bastard
Okay, I don't hate Datu quite as much as I have in the past. He is still a whiny little puss, but he's not as inept as I once considered him. The idea to hook up the battery to the dead radio was resourceful, I'll give him that. But he is still the luckiest bastard in the show:
- In Boulder, he lucks out in hiding in a house right next to a survivalist who gets chomped
- Then he gets a lucky swing at a raging Zoldier with a pickaxe
- Then happens to steal a car that is already stocked with extra gas and supplies
- And just happens to follow a crazy dude through the boonies of Rt. 6, taking him away from the main (doomed) convoy
- Only to run out of gas in an area of certain death, but a timely radio call comes in at the exact moment when Michael and the only chopper crew just happen to be passing by on their way back to Irwin...
I guess you can say that he makes his own luck, but damn.... if I had such 'resourcefulness' I'd be buying lottery tickets!
Rebel Mike?
Shit is going to get heated at central command, especially over this issue of how to use personnel. Interestingly enough, the power dynamic between Kimmet and Michael is similar to that between Shane and Rick in the Walking Dead- one wants to make the 'hard decisions' to save the whole, even if that means sacrificing a few innocents, while the other values each individual enough to give him a fighting chance. This is actually quite a transformation for Michael, for he used to play the role of the short-tempered prick who had no patience for people who always seemed to get in the way of him getting shit accomplished. Nice character development throughout this fine story.
We already saw which philosophy triumphed in the fates of the Two Towers, so it will be interesting to see if a full scale mutiny will occur. My guess is that a small group led by Michael will eventually defect back to LA, perhaps with some 'secret weapon' by Tanya concerning how to counteract the zombie virus once and for all...
Call from... Scratch??!?
Ok, raise your hand if you were half expecting Scratch's voice on the other end of that Sat-phone at the end of the episode. Something like, "What's the matter, Michael? You don't want to plaaaaay with me anymore??"
I'm Out like Trout
Goddam it KC. Why must you make me wait another 2 weeks after an episode like that?!?!?!?
It will easily be the hardest two weeks of my post-we're alive life! You horrible sadistic man.
And seriously, apox upon the person who decided to try and go with the convoy after being scratched (I believe that these inklings can only turn people by scratching them, as Tanya pointed out their seemingly useless teeth).
Ok I might get an earfull for saying this but I kind of don't like how things are going do far for the humans. Don't get me wrong, I love the story and the writing done so far by KC, an issue I am having right know is that I don't see any chance for us to win. with pretty much all of the USA gone dark and the last safe place for humanity gone and Irwin "possible" about to fall, I don't see any ending that will end positively, and I don't mean sun shines and rainbows happy but I just me oh god we just barly won but it's going to take forever to get back to how we were. Its all starting to get really depressing and I fell I'm starting to listen to the slow but fatal extinction of humanity. I still plan on listening to the end, but I just fear what will be waiting for us at the end of this road
Maybe Ink found Glen, he makes the call and listens in as Micheal gives away their position, just in time to come and lead his army of super-little-ones. Let the siege of Irwin begin! Just as the battle reaches it's climax... We're treated to 3 chapters of the dialogue-free adventures of Mr Whiskers catching rats in the ruins of the tower. Brilliant.
It's nice that Datu is on hand to fix the Pelican. But what's the point if we don't have Pegs to fly it? Does anybody else suspect she's going to put in an appearance at Fort Irwin next episode?
Lots of ways she could do it. In my favorite scenario Pegs and Kelly arrive at the Rendezvous Point only to find that the convoy has already left. But they also find all the helicopters that were abandoned due to low fuel. They fly one to a nearby airport, refuel and fly it back to Fort Irwin. Once at Irwin the old gang load into the repaired Pelican, along with KODI. And who knows, maybe they'll all end up back in LA.
Personally I'm hoping for that. That would be more realistic then the fairy tales we've become accustomed to. Humanity isn't invincible. For the most part we're overly capable animals blundering around the planet making obvious mistakes at basically every decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICEMAN TRAVIS
Theres only a few ways zombpocolypse can end okay, and the Brooksian way is very rare. We're either going to end with the last two human survivors left on Earth walking off into a progressivly dim sunset, or everyones gonna die, but thats okay, cause the chopper that was gonna get them off the mall didn't have the fuel anyway. I've got a bit of the same problem, in that this episode really does kinda put the nail in humanity. We are watching an extinction. Thats how Zombpocolypses end, generally. We keep listening for the characters, to know why this is happening, but yes, humanity is done unless theres another mass wrinkle, and thats a long shot. This will not end well, and I'm not talking rainbows and sunshine, I'm taking about Michael not eating his gun after getting all the journals together in a library with no one left to read them.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICEMAN TRAVIS
Well, I've been thinking it ever since the story switched from the Colony battle to Ft Irwin and now I'm calling it; They're all gonna end up back in LA.
My guess is that the next chapter will go back to the colony. Either we'll see Saul and the gang, (or whoever makes it through) fight off the convicts, and force them out of the colony (I don't think we can have Scratch die just yet) or it all goes to hell for them and they're forced to leave the colony, get the phone repaired back at the other tower and call for help, in the hope they can get out of LA before Scratch tracks them down.
Unfortunately for them, shit hits the fan at Ft Irwin, and whatever's left of the survivors there are forced to abandon the base. With nowhere else to go they fly back into LA where (depending on how the battle pans out) they get to land in the nice secure colony (with an angry Scratch biding her time outside) or at the other tower (with an enraged Scratch hunting them down).
Regardless I'm loving this all so much, and a part of me wants to be completely wrong just so I'm even more gob-smacked later on.
I would say that maybe we're assuming too much in terms of the global situation. It could very well be the case that there are other parts of the world unaffected that may yet come to play in this story (if at all).Quote:
Originally Posted by ICEMAN TRAVIS
All that we really know about the global situation is that the outbreak hit West coast USA, Japan, China and Hawaii. Maybe whatever happened to cause the outbreak has just hit areas around the Pacific ocean. Could give us a lot of hope for the rest of the world to have survived, or at least put up a defence. Maybe the worlds survivors have taken to the seas in fleets of ships and humanity becomes a seafaring, migrant race, who knows. Either way there's still hope yet.
I'd scale back on it a bit. Remember, as far as Irwin knows, the whole world's gone dark, and you can't tell me they don't have sufficient shortwave or HAM radio gear to get off the continent with ears, and that they wouldn't be listening to everything. They chomped through the U.S. Fairly quick, nothing saying they wouldn't get through Eurasia just as fast. Kcs already given us the safeplace surprise with Irwin and Boulder, he might not do it again. But, there is a whole nother season, so, maybe!Quote:
Originally Posted by Graves
We need a mini timeline that maps the events from when Saul and Victor first saw the Chinook to now. Compare the events from LA to Irwin/Boulder. The journal entries give us info on what day it was and how many days it took while waiting. How much time passed between the colony civil war to the sat. phone transmission?
Elsewhere in the thread, I think someone calculated it as 2 Days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pillars
Thanks. I'm driving so I can't delve too deep right now.
I loved this chapter! I was blown away today.
I am hoping for the return of Pegs. I also have a feeling they will end up back in LA. I am wondering how the rest of them will reconnect, what is going on at the Colony? I feel like the stories were getting really separated, but now that Boulder has been toasted, maybe we'll get to know what's going on with the rest of the original gang.
Leave it to KC to nuke half of civilization and put the other half in danger of being destroyed. Welcome to "We're Alive. A Story of Survival".
I'm shocked no one has suggested tardust as the potential fixer of the phone. He's good with the radios after all.And he is much closer to the two necessary pieces than glenn.
Episode was aight................................just aight................................:p
So we will see the KODI again. Michael is likely going to have to fight a war on two fronts (zombies and mallers), and I've found a new path for burt to die: "oh pegs is dead? *bang!* so is the old man"
And David is just a sculpture. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by nikvoodoo
I might not be recalling, but I don't recall Tardust showing particular aptitude, and we're talking about a fairly complex repair, at least from a technical standpoint, if I'm to understand correctly. That being said, my suspension of disbelief would not be stretched if he was in prison for FCC violations, or if someone else could do the repair. But, I was unsure if they brought the broken phone with them.
Tardust doesn't have the broken sat phone that holds the redial memory. I'm sure it's still with Glen or back at Dunbar.
And Tardust seems very capable. He is the techie of the Mallers.
There's always a possibilty that kimmet will blow the nuke under irwin if irwin becomes overrun like boulder...
As for the colony becoming the place to put all the boulder survivors, i don't think that'll happen. I don't think the colony is big enough for everyone, and plus, the colony is in southern california where the inklings/adlos came from in the first place. If boulder and possibly irwin can become overrun, I don't think the colony can stand a chance, especially with how close it is to ink and the special zombies.
...and that's why you are favorite.Quote:
It's nice that Datu is on hand to fix the Pelican. But what's the point if we don't have Pegs to fly it? Does anybody else suspect she's going to put in an appearance at Fort Irwin next episode?
Lots of ways she could do it. In my favorite scenario Pegs and Kelly arrive at the Rendezvous Point only to find that the convoy has already left. But they also find all the helicopters that were abandoned due to low fuel. They fly one to a nearby airport, refuel and fly it back to Fort Irwin. Once at Irwin the old gang load into the repaired Pelican, along with KODI. And who knows, maybe they'll all end up back in LA.
It's funny that you should mention the A-Team because as I was listening to this episode in my car and speeding to school, I kept thinking, "I love it when a plot comes together." This episode was really enjoyable. There were call backs and some action and some character building. Michael got to be funny, Tanya got out of her bubble, Hope was a total pill (she's rapidly becoming a favorite), Chekhov's gun was fired in terms of Datu coming back and fixing the helicopter and we got a mysterious phone call at the end of the episode. It was really satisfying to see so many things coalescing at once.Quote:
That make sense! Only Glenn would get it working, so is it now Glenn the almost as resourceful as Datu the resourceful . They got in the van, b line to Liz and jet back to the other tower. Just think A-team style!
Also, now I'm super afraid that *Kegs is dead and have all sorts of feelings, which is terrible because emotions are dumb and should be hated.
Michael is going the way of Angel? No, I can't see that. I really don't think Michael has the inclination to be an officer. He slipped very easily back into his role as a NCO, which is actually one of my favorite things about him--he doesn't have a great desire for power, though he could command it. I think that Michael would rather a competent but more malleable officer took Kimmet's place. And as far as we know, Michael is probably one of the more experienced soldiers on the base, in terms of combat experience and managing civilians. There are probably more officers on the base who we haven't met. One of them would most likely take over for Kimmet, were he incapacitated.Quote:
I dunno, Kimmet is seeming QUITE wishy-washy now. As stated in the show, he's never been in this situation before, so he has no clue what to do. He does what he thinks is right, but is slowly realizing everyone second guesses him for Michael. Once the others defer to Michael, he accepts what he says....but will not accept him on his word alone, as he demands power. I think Michael is going exactly the way of Angel...SHOULD be in charge by rank, but not in charge based on experience/tactfulness
But who knows? As Shakespeare once wrote: "Some are born great, some achieve greatness and some have greatness thrust upon them." I think Michael is the latter. (I have my issues with him but Michael's a good NCO. Maybe even a great one. If he plays to his strengths, he might yet see some people through this apocalypse.)
The I-40 through Albuquerque is a very good idea. In December, it's cold enough for snow but it's dry on our side of the mountain (seriously, look at a Google map). Also, snow doesn't last long in New Mexico, even if the roads aren't ploughed.Quote:
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The safer alternate route is to travel south along the eastern face of the Rockys into New Mexico, then catch I-40 in Alburquerque and follow it all the way to the Fort Irwin area. There are a few areas in northern Arizona that could be tricky, but there's much less chance of the route being blocked by snow drifts.
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Another thought on the longer southerly route, it passes through Colorado Springs and Albuquerque which both house major military installations. These would be good stop points for equipment. Also, they wouldn't be dealing with as much snow in the mountains, can you say Donner Party? What is throwing me off is didn't they say the evac point was on I-70?
Also, there's a chance that there a lot (relatively speaking) of survivors in New Mexico. Low population density, high gun ownership outside of the cities, and lots of people living off the grid. The survivors might be hard to find, but they're probably there (an apocalyptic event might even bring them to town.)
Okay, what the hell does this stand for? I keep seeing it around and can't find the post that defined the term.Quote:
adlos
*Kegs is my portmanteau for Kelly and Pegs. Even though portmanteaux are demode, I love them...by which I mean both portmanteaux and Pegs and Kelly. I'm going to be super down if Kelly doesn't ride into town on a sled pulled by zombie slaves in the same episode that Scratch and Burt fight to the death in a volcano.
ADLO = Advanced Little Ones. I prefer Inklings myself but ADLO doesn't seem to be going away.Quote:
Originally Posted by stat