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The best quote I remember and like is from Chapter 3 or so when the towers overrunned with zombies and Michael and Riley are locked in a room with the rest of the survivors holding off the hordes. "Shoot that B*tch in the Face". The best part of action is always the profanity. killing, or nudity.Quote:
Originally Posted by LiamKerrington
Once Victor becomes "King of the Kolony" we can celebrate by having our first Mariachi Christmas Jam!
This is some action build up shit Sauls going to go butwild pretty soon to get Blondie back. Would'nt that suck if its a white baby...
Whoa, wait, I just realized a shit ton of people must have been dying off at the Colony. Didn't Markus say they had hundreds of people? Now Gatekeeper is saying there are 90 left from when the Mallers took over.
Oy vey! Upon listening again to 32-2, there are some words that I got hung up on. They were reminiscent of Tanya's, "What did you say?" when Michael first mentioned Saul's name. There is a moment, after CJ has kissed Saul where he says, "I'm done with that!" At first I thought he was saying he was done with her trying to help plan and that he was going to do things his way. BUT, the way she takes his words, it's as though he is saying he is done with whatever they had between each other, as in "I'm done with that, with us, with the things we've been doing when we get lonely."Quote:
Originally Posted by Adventureless_Hero
I think Saul may have had snu snu with CJ, that or at least a one time slip up that led her to believe there would be more.
Oh hell, and another thought came to mind on this front too; what if when Gatekeeper was spreading the word about Saul's plan he may have told someone who was no longer loyal to him. The Mallers could be calling for a head count because they intend to shoot Gatekeeper and some of his followers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adventureless_Hero
I wouldn't die of love, but chances are: I would fall in love ... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Osiris
CHRISTMAS TACOS!!!1111111111onelcQuote:
Originally Posted by Z Sniper
Do you think the story in WA is going to pass the next like 4-5 months that we learn about the baby?Quote:
Originally Posted by Clapacap24
I so much hope that WA does not change into kind of a weekly zombie-soap or zombie-opera or something ... It should remain a "story of survival"; therefore the baby-issue should be nothing more then just a motivation for different characters to include Lizzy into their plans of actions ... Wait! well, wouldn't this be kind of a zombie-soap then? Am definitily too tired ... Good night, folks ...
Great episode, again. A few theories of what may or could happen. Maybe this episode and the next one are happening at the same time, and the roll call is the aftermath of a Scratch and Durai confrontation. (With Scratch being the victor) With everyone gathering for a roll call, maybe this could work good for Saul and CJ when infiltrating the Colony. Maybe the Mallers know that Victor is in the colony. I am starting to miss Michael and the others storyline. Seems like it has been forever. And now that I think about the Saul line after CJ's kiss, there was definitely something going on and they were trying to hide it from Victor.
Are you saying we might finally get that very special 'We're Alive' Christmas special? Is that the Season 3 finale?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Z Sniper
I don't think I trust Bixby. It doesn't seem to make sense that the prisoners would allow a non-prisoner to leave the Colony. Sure they have some of the old guardians still acting as guardians, but they're not leaving the colony. Either Bixby is doing a very convincing job lying to the powers that be (Durai, Scratch, Tardust, etc.) or he's a dirty rat.
Hero, Your post number?!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Adventureless_Hero
Definitely possible, but what about Victor? If word had leaked to the Mallers wouldn't they have seized Gatekeeper and tossed his place looking for information, catching Victor in the process? The fact that they didn't may mean that Gatekeeper and Bixby are just witnesses to whatever is going to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adventureless_Hero
666, THE MARK OF THE BEAST! Must be because I'm reading Good Omens.Quote:
Originally Posted by UndeadSweeper
As far as roll call goes, the Mallers are former prisoners. They would have had to participate in roll call at Eastern Bay in order for the guards and warden to be sure that no one is missing, so they know the value of doing a head count. Especially and unannounced head count. Also, we know that they kept records of their captives. Remember Tardust looking for Lizzy's name on his list of slaves when they came across her at the auto dealership? There could very well be nothing more to the Maller's motive of taking roll other than to keep control. Then, maybe not. Just saying.
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Originally Posted by Adventureless_Hero
Wouldn't it be 999, then?
I'm not so sure. The way Tardust put it made it sound like they are all required to gather in the parking lot near the hospital so there will be a roll call for that reason. I don't think the roll call is the purpose of the meeting but rather a causality of the meeting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor
Sup Everyone!
The roll call is just for show to make the people in the colony remember who's in charge and to serve as record keeping for different labor details.
Bixby is playing Gate Keeper, Victor and everyone! He is just going to listen to their conversation and report it to the Maulers. He betrayed Shaun, Marcus and the original regime to get advancement in the colony and will do the same. The Mauler will play dumb until CJ and Saul act and not before. Scratch will be the wild card in this, as she will act first. Scratch will capture Victor and torture him until he tells her where everyone from tower went. CJ and Saul will know somethings up with Victor and Saul will want to act fast while CJ will want to abort the plan all together as the element of surprise is gone. Saul will win out and an epic fight will ensue.
I think we can all stop saying abort...
If Sean was killed in a Z-attack then things could take a turn towards the bizarre-rer if he jumps from behind a bush as a zombie. CJ wasn't given details about his death but if she is under the impression that he was killed by the Mallers, then would she think otherwise if she saw him as a biter. That is, would she come to the conclusion that the Mallers exposed him to the zombies or would she just conclude that Saul lied to her?
Also, in Chapter 18 Victor tells Micheal that only 2 out of the 12 who were attacked with Sean made it back to the Colony (But didn't survive.) This kind of bugs me because it seems to imply that people injured by Zombies were giving clearance to enter the Colony after being contaminated. They were hesitant to even allow Micheal entry due to his broken arm.
I tried listening to the last few chapters to hear if there was any mention of the population of the Colony. Someone else mentioned it, already, that it seems like Gatekeeper estimates about 90 people plus the Mallers and their slaves. I initially thought they were talking about the number of Guardians and scavengers.
Any thoughts?
Ya know? I think CJ is some kind of hoarder or a Batman type of character. She wanted to add the '67 Shelby to her collection. Also, remember this line when Victor jokes that she forgot to bring a wet suit, "Of course I have one. I have everything."
She may have had most of these things before it all went down, but I think she became Z-day's first and most prolific looter. She does say that she might have it better now than what she would if they were rescued.
Can you imagine, Zombies eating everyone and CJ doing a smash-and-grab on plasma TVs? She thinks it's just another riot so she throws on a hoodie, dances the Crip Walk while singing NWA's F... the Police and runs down to Best Buy.
Mh ... Strikes me:Quote:
Originally Posted by Adventureless_Hero
Someone/ the doctor found Angel splattered around and tells Durai.
Durai freaks out what was going on and asks for the roll-call.
Bixby and Lizzy had no opportunity yet to tell Durai about the tape.
Is Lizzy supposed to show up at the roll-call?
If not, this could happen: Durai freaks out, Scratch blames someone (Tardust) for having done it, like she and Latch did the first time, when the tanker-rig was "stolen". Briggs is a weakling and does not provide the video and and thus does not tell Durai about the lie of Scratch's. ...
What IF Lizzy is supposed to show up at the roll call, THEN something completely different will happen ... And then we would have the triangle of death meeting: Durai <-> Scratch <-> Briggs.
All the best!
Liam
Aww..sonofava...
Alright here we go...so I think witch doctor just said a majority of the pieces..but let's put em together.
We knew the colonies numbers to be in the hundreds before, right?...well what has changed since then?...mallers, yes...but also mkp and Vic running off with half the weapons stash. We also know(if I'm remembering correctly) that the colonists basically rolled over when the mallers showed up...this points to a nearly depleted weapons supply...also note the viament anger when pete/glenn confronted vic/saul....id wager that the depleted numbers came from loss of people during the time between mpk and the mallers arrival.
Now, how to bring all this together...people talk, that's a given...people also throw others under the bus when given the opportunity to, especially when those people are not around...so how bout this.
Durai/scratch/tar heard the rumors of what happened between the mpk time and current time...durai made note of a way he could use this to his advantage, but scratch insisted on her own form of interrogation...hence durais frustration with her lack of results...i could easily see the "roll call" being Burt thrown out in front of the colonists and they are told "this man knows where the people who put you in this situation are"...people can be evil...but a group of angry people?...well...
That's what I got, aaaaand now my head is spinning
Hi There.
THIS would be such a dark scene ... Poor Burt ...Quote:
Originally Posted by 7oddisdead
And yeah, lots of heads spinning since Monday ...
Also: I hope that I never will be the target of your sinister plans ... :cool: :zombieglomp:
All the best!
Liam
OOokayy...
Here's my thoughts about what's going on...
1. Roll Call.
As many have said, Durai likes to play it simple. I don't think he's going to amass everyone in the Colony for a "hey, you killed so-and-so and that's not cool...so um...*shoots Scratch* "See that, people? Don't kill people. That is all." I also can't see him calling roll call to confront Scratch about killing Angel...he seems to be more of the type that would conduct that business in front of the only people who matter (the inner circle, or any other members of the "Family" that are still hanging around). I believe he would consider it a "private matter."
While I don't think it's a coincidence that they recieved the summons to roll-call, I honestly am not sure what to think about what's going to go down. It could be that Bixby is playing both sides, and they're going to "out" Victor...who unfortunately also knows where the Tower people were going. So then, Victor is going to tell them, after torture, before death. They aren't going to need Burt anymore. So either they just kill him, or put him to work as a slave (probably just kill him). There goes the last rays of hope for the rest of the Colony if that's the case.
2. Lizzie/Bricks/Saul/CJ
Lizzie and Bricks? in love? Nope. At least not on her part. She's borrowing his shirts because they're the only clothing that fit her now because she's pregnant. She's a therapist...who has obviously listened to and counseled Bricks before (She asks him "Did you hurt someone? Do you feel bad about it/want to talk about it?). I think their thing is more of a friendship borne from their guard/prisoner roles...kind of like Stockholm Syndrome, except friendship instead of love (although Bricks could be possibly in love with her).
Bricks is an interesting character. From right off, I knew he was different from the other prisoners. He seemed like a "gentle giant," because he seemed to be concerned about Lizzie's welfare from the moment they picked her up. To me, Bricks was the guy who, because of his size and maybe a mental defect of some sort that made him "slow", was the bodyguard/bouncer/enforcer simply because all he did was follow orders. Follow them because he feared punishment himself, or perhaps because that was just simply how he grew up, in an environment where violence was always present. If it's all you know...*shrugs*It's because he seems to express regret and despite going along with Scratch's tortures of others, doesn't seem to mind stepping in on Burt's behalf that makes me think this way.
Saul and CJ...while all of us and probably Saul too, saw this coming...I'm sure it was still a surprise to Saul when she pounced on him like a lioness on a gazelle. Honestly, I was expecting something like this as soon as she had that little hissy-fit after they brought Pete and Glenn back to Dunbar. Constance Parng, I must say, has a revealing voice. During the aforementioned hissy-fit, I could hear everything from desperation to longing to anger to sorrow and regret. And when she pounced Saul, she sounded ashamed and guilty but also pleading in a way.
Props to Saul for sticking by his feelings and not caving in to CJ, especially in a high-stress situation, just after they were attacked...which could have been a contributing factor to CJ's kiss. All hopped up on adrenaline and stress...it could have been an "accident," wherein your emotions and body start doing things while your brain is screaming "STOP YOU MORON...NOOOO!"
3. Angel/The Family/Durai/Scratch
Even if Bricks shows Durai the videotape, who's to say that Durai is going to act on it? Angel, despite having a birthright ring and being a member of the "Family"...he wasn't involved in the Family's business...he joined the military and tried walking the straight and narrow (as far as we know). That could be construed as betrayal to the Family, yes? Durai may just shrug his shoulders and be like "So what?" He might get pissed that Scratch didn't ask the questions HE wanted answered and reprimand her for that...but can we honestly say that he's going to watch this tape and immediately be like "Oh, Scratch honey? Come'ere and lemme put this bullet in you..."? Angel didn't do anything for Durai, except stand as one of many roadblocks in his path to obtaining the Tower.
Lizzie was just acting on Scratch's words, trying to think of a way to get rid of Scratch once she learned that Burt was alive and imprisoned and Angel was dead. She saw an opportunity and decided to take it, but it may not go like she and Bricks want it to, and if it doesn't....then Bricks and Lizzie are next on Scratch's hitlist, preggers or not.
However...I think they should try to get Tardust on their side...honestly, he doesn't seem to be overly fond of her...nay, downright frightened of her sometimes...he would probably relish the idea of getting rid of her...because Scratch rules with fear and pain.
I think they need to present this tape in a very deliberate way...because a person's mood could mean the difference between peace and war. Durai could look at the tape and be like "so what?" or "Scratch is dead the next time I see her" depending upon how the information is presented to him.
My thought train is about to derail, that and I have to get back to work, so I will leave you all with this food for thought for now...
Well cj definitely likes saul, so I'm guessing the whole batheing scene was to tempt Saul away, which almost worked.
Next episode will probably open up with Lizzy and bricks trying to go see durai but being denied an "appointment" because he is a stuck up d-bag...
Scratch will be fine, she always is
And I seriously doubt Glenn is a double-agent
On a side-note, I thought it was funny Saul and cj went out of their way to mention the Shelby in the garage, perhaps their is an awesome fix-her-up then escape in a sexy sports car on the horizon?
Or we know what KC will be driving once he starts getting the Hollywood mega-bucks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukas A.
Makes me sad how many people want Scratch dead.
I want her alive and well. All hail to my favorite psycho :yay:Quote:
Originally Posted by Osiris
BFFFFFFFFfffffsssssQuote:
Originally Posted by Tales from Valhalla
Negative, sir. Victor is going in front of the firing squad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Z Sniper
Dear Kc,
Please don't kill Scratch.
Sincerely,
We know where you live.
:D I don't actually know where you live...
but please don't kill her.
Dear Osiris.
Scratch.
Won't.
Die.
So.
Soon.
All the best!
Liam
P.S.: I don't know for sure, because I cannot know by now. But considering the huge impact this would have on the complete WA-story and WA-universe I hold it as unlikely that Scratch's gonna bite the dust. She is way too important, and she would live a huge void space, if she died. And WA is not ready for this ...
Dear Liam,Quote:
Originally Posted by LiamKerrington
It has recently come to my attention that you've been privy to information the rest of us haven't. I would like to formally request that you forward any scripts you've been given directly to my inbox. It has also come to my attention that you are short. So sorry.
Sincerely,
This Guy.
:squint:
Dear Osiris,
I am sorry to inform you that based on WA-compliance I am bound to rules not allowing me to share any information which is beyond my opinion.
I am also sorry to learn that you pay too much attention to things which should not concern you too much. But I thank you for being sorry.
All the best!
Liam
Dear Sirs,
May I interest you in this shiny new product for half the doubled price of the market--
I mean...
It seems you both discuss the fate of Scratch and I hereby cast my vote to Osiris as the Master of Scratch's Destiny.
Cheers,
This Girl.
I think when it comes to what is going to happen to Scratch, I think anyone of the following things will happen
1)she will get away with it and nothing will happen to her
2)Durai will attempt to execute her but she will escape and hide until everything is settled and overhears that Michael and co. went to ft. irwin and heads there by herself
3)she will kill Durai after he attempts to execute her and she will take over
I can't believe I didn't catch that oneQuote:
Originally Posted by Osiris
As it should be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tales from Valhalla