Hey. In my opinion the Mallers can't possibly have known where CJ's Tower was exactly, otherwise after it'd been overrun surely they would've cleared it out and moved in - especially since, we think, it was more secure than our heroes tower.. right?
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Hey. In my opinion the Mallers can't possibly have known where CJ's Tower was exactly, otherwise after it'd been overrun surely they would've cleared it out and moved in - especially since, we think, it was more secure than our heroes tower.. right?
Would you want to live in the place that was known to have been overrun by zombies, killing everyone there as far as you know?Quote:
Originally Posted by Natagora
Hmmm... sound familiar to another tower I know? :) The second was almost overrun too and also withstand a human and zombie attack. If you ask them to move a more secure place then the current tower and all they need to do is look out for pin-stripe. Datu would build you a van from scratch in heartbeat to move there.Quote:
Originally Posted by cupcakezombie
OWNED! Full conformation that Kalani was the rat!!! Win for me! And my full theory was like 90% accurate........ Kc... did.... did you actually use my theory or is this a happy coincidence?
Interesting that you can officially make that call when Kalani hasnt made it to the tower yet. Likely right? Yes. But until it happens in the story, it's not official. Just like it wasn't official that skittles came from the other tower until this chapter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Th3_T3ch
I secretly hope that next chapter...kalani tries the same tactic...but, oh noes!...when does go in to call the mallers, they are already outside! Someone already called!
Its my belief that the purpose of him leaving the journal was the arrival of pippin, nothing more....
Least that's the story I'm going with, just to go against the current flow around here
Pfft. Like I didn't have this all planned way before Pippin arrived? When the show website was made in the first few weeks we were on the air there was even a Character page for Pippin. It confused the hell out of everyone for the longest time ;) Oh hey. Cool! I found it: http://www.zombiepodcast.com/The_Zom...ivePippin.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Th3_T3ch
And this comment confirms nothing else. Only that this is all planned WAY in advance.
i thought skittles said when they first met him that he was from the other tower? or maybe not when they first met him, but i could've sworn he mentioned his origin at some pointQuote:
Originally Posted by nikvoodoo
All he said was I saw him kill my friends. He never said where he was from. There was a popular theory (championed by me) that he was in the insane asylum with Bill Roberts indicating he was cracked before the outbreak.Quote:
Originally Posted by reaper239
We know now that isn't true.....unless Kalani and CJ are colluding about origin stories to fuck with us.
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Originally Posted by Adventureless_Hero
Frigg'n awesome! I hadn't had the chance to go back in and take another listen. Should have before I started talking out my neck!
Just to play Devil's advocate for Pippin He did volunteer not because he was a slimy sneaky person by nature ( yes he probably WAS) But when Scratch is threatening Kalani /Hannah he volunteers because Tar says we only need one....AND when Scratch says to her brother to shoot Hannah he replies "You don't have to do that." If I remember correctly He also was trying to calm a panicked Hope before the shooter offed him.
We all know KC doesn't do cookie cutter all bad guys So I just felt the need to point that out
Break, Break!
How do we KNOW that Skits is from T1? It isn't confirmed is it? K frigg'n C threw another wrench in the machine when he said there was a Duncan at the Colony.. followed by evil music sound.
Quote Originally Posted by TCM Revolver View Post
lets not forget there was a Duncan at the Colony too. He was the one that had ears around his neck... *dun dun dun*
Thumpkin's neck. :P
KC already answered this about page 2 of this thread....Not same name
I titled part 2 of 3 as "hooray we are saved !! oh $$$$ we aren't !!! More bad things are happening !!!!!" I am liking that some of the holes are getting filled in.
Raven,Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven
I dunno...
Pipp was a sneaky bastard. He was also an ass. Remember, he ditched Kalani and Hope after they saved his bacon. I think he volunteered to go just because he's a underhanded by nature. He's a weasel type. Not violent.. just..just the kind of dude you'd punch out on the regular.
I'm still going to go down swinging by saying Kalani didn't have the motivation to be the rat for T2?
Awwww fugg it! I'm signing off. Must be sleep reading or some ish. You're right. I missed the quote thingamabob.Disregard all Crowbar posts for today. They're suspect. I need a 5 hour energy whatsit or find a nice dark and empty office to tuck myself away for an hour. Frigg'n Mass Effect 3...effectQuote:
Originally Posted by Raven
Yes, Pippin was advocating for people he knew....
But he was willfully volunteering to spy on another group of people for convicts who threatened his life. I call that sleezy.
Thanks for clearing that up. Back to being clueless and left to my own devices now.Quote:
Originally Posted by nikvoodoo
Word. I agree that Pippin isn't as black and white a character as most of us see him, though he has shown little in the way of being a decent fellow. I do believe that in him there is a shred of humanity that would cause him to comfort someone like Hope in a scary situation. But when you look at the down right cruel way he ditched Kalani and Hannah at LAX, it's difficult recall his soothing ways with Hope. Still, if you think back to the chaos at LAX, it is much like the chaos that ensued in the Tower following the war. There we saw some of our favorite and loveable characters acting in the most self preserving and vile ways; Burt and Angel both were willing to give up on Saul to save their own bacon. Tsk, tsk fellas. Burt was guilty of this more than once; he left Saul in the hybrid at the fuel depot (granted it was a wiser and more realistic decision) and he was willing to give up on the entire Tower during the fire in which he wanted to go it alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven
I think these dire situations make those small evils within us all burn hotter. Burt can be a dick, and when desperate, he becomes a major asshole. Pippin is normally a major asshole, but when desperate he becomes a black hole of an asshole. Looking back at LAX, remember his line, "Look who I found!" when he returned with Scratch and Latch? That could have been Pippin's attempt at clinging to his humanity. He may have found Latch and Scratch and realized there was a chance to save the two people he had just ditched. He was likely the one that said, "Listen, there are two more people back there, not far from here. We can save them!" Good intention; bad outcome.
But yeah, although I feel Pippin was over all an bastard, he did still have a bit in him that made him human.
KC, thanks for replying to my post. If you said Scratch raided Burt's shop, I would have no problem with it. If you did not have "special weapons Latch found..." I would not have a problem with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kc
My problem is this, there is strong evidence that Scratch broke Latch and others out of the prison.
There is pretty much no way in hell that Scratch is going to go into a Maximum Security Federal Prison that is most likely in a total lockdown and free 100 inmates unless society has had a majorly collapsed. A BIGTIME, zombocolypse would work, but not vague news reports of a riot. The ripple estimates, and Michael's own experience, put the zombies hitting Bell around 11:00. Burt's store is hit about then.
Burt is a survivalist. He has all his stuff for the end of the world, but when it starts, he does not go to his store? How the hell do Latch and Scratch get to Burt's store before Burt did? Maybe there is a piece we are missing, like Burt and Raydon Labs. But, I still have problems getting Latch to Lock and Loaded first.
At 11:00, the nature of the riot is still cryptic at best. So, Eastern Bay's security will not have collapsed. Once Latch is freed, they have to go from the coast all the way to East LA either through or around Ground Zero. This occurs about the same time that 1/3 of LA and people who commute to LA for work are trying to get out in the same direction.
As Latch says it is what it is. I am not creative enough to figure out how.
RE: Saul / TanyaQuote:
Originally Posted by HaveCrowBarWillTravel
Maybe it is a cultural thing. I live in a small town in WAY upstate NY. Plattsburgh. About 300 miles North of NYC and about 60 miles Southeast of Montreal. My family has literally lived within a 0.5 mile circle for more than 170 years. I am not going to say everybody knows everbody. But, I will say everybody’s kin knows someone else’s kin.
I will be talking to someone I just met only to find out that the person played football against my father or something. A parent can be pissed, but will not abandon a child in their darkest need. It is just not the way of things here. Worse, the reason she gives is that she had to go from working in a vetinary practice to working in an emergency clinic 20 miles away? Call me a conspiracy nut, but that rings of a front company for Raydon Labs offering Tanya the chance to work on the development of a drug that has the potential to be the most beneficial to humans / animals EVER! With the caveat that like working at Areaa 51, you cannot tell anyone.
Yea and two Pucks and two hannahs. For x-mas we should get KC a random name generator 8PQuote:
Originally Posted by Raven
Two Hannahs? I know there were two Pucks (one was a nickname and the other is an actual last name) and there were two Johns (well technically, a John, aka Latch, and a Johnny, dude who recieved over 50% burns to his body during the war) but I wasn't aware of two Hannahs. And I'm not aware of too many things but I know what I know if you know what I mean. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthur LaMarche
The other hannah, like puck 1, did not have a speaking role. Nor was she even mentioned by name that I can recall.
I saw her name on the list of tower residence Hannah Morgan
http://www.zombiepodcast.com/forum/s...itle=The+Tower
Holy monkey butts! This is my first time seeing this list. Great job!Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthur LaMarche
I'm still trying to figure out where you're getting this abandonment thing from. It's not like Saul was 12. He was an adult. To me that's like saying parents are wrong for changing their kids rooms into a man cave when they go to college.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthur LaMarche
Why wouldnt she go to work in an emergancy clinic? saul isnt a child hes a grown man and he could have found out where she was by asking her friends, alsosaul was in prison so there was nothing keeping her there and why would she go work in area 51? the ourbreak hadnt happend yet and how would she get to area 51 to the colony?Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthur LaMarche
I don't see it as an abandonment issue. I mean obviously everyone feels that Saul was a grown man, and I agree. But I do take issue with the lack of communication between Saul and his mother. That isn't a good thing. When I moved out of Texas and into Michigan for a few years, you can bet your right but cheek or left nut that I called my mom, dad, and brothers several times a week.
I'm f'n retiring to Costa Rica or Belize when all my rug rats are adults. We can skype..or whatever it'll be called by then!
the comment wasn't meant to convey a move to the area 51, but rather a switch in employment to an area 51-esque company. the idea being that she couldn't talk about what she was doing because she was sworn to secrecy.Quote:
Originally Posted by killericon
"Our Tower" had been overrun by zombies who killed everyone prior to our heroes arriving.Quote:
Originally Posted by cupcakezombie
I guess I am using the wrong words or clouded with brain farts.
Yes, Saul is an adult. I have no doubt that he can take care of himself and is legally free to do so. When I moved away from home for college, I was on my own. No cash or insurance from parents. I could go back to visit, but would have to sleep on the couch. I get all of this. How many of you have children or parents that you have not spoken to for more than a few years. I know it happens. At times, there is bad blood. Sometimes it is the best option.
Saul goes to prison, Tanya blows him off. A few months after the death of >6,000,000 people and she sees her long lost son and her first response is to reprimand him for saying "shit", reprimand him for larsony and dismisses her actions of not contacting Saul because she took a new job?
It is foriegn to me. I would eat a shit sandwich and ask for seconds if it would bring my boy back. But, death is pretty much a oneway ticket.
This chapter reminds me of that episode of Lost where we finally learned Richard's backstory.
I had always been suspicious Skittles came from the other tower.
HA! Amen to that!Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthur LaMarche
Hey, Kc: Farquar is still available. That and about 50,000 other names you haven't yet used. I can direct you to a few baby name websites if you get stuck! :D
I don't know about the whole Kalani is an accidental rat... I know, jeez Krysten, get over it.
But! The theory I have going in my head at the moment... Once he and the radio were alone together (tee hee) he decided to get in to contact with the Mallers in hopes that Hannah was still alive. In hopes that maybe there was something he could still do to free her if she was alive. I mean let's be honest here, that's some intent regardless right there.
Maybe he inquired about her, maybe they said she was still alive. I'm sure at some point the Mallers get it out of Kalani that he is at The Other Tower... The tower they want. You don't just accidentally tell someone, "Yea, they're having this huge shin-dig tonight, they figured everyone needs to take a break." The same reason you don't tell someone you have 10 grand hiding under your bed.
IF.... If Kalani is the one who let the Mallers know he had to of given them details as he was more than likely being threatened with his daughters life. Maybe Hannah was made to talk over the radio, get him going, just about anyone else would spill the beans if they had to hear their daughter in anguish.
I don't know, if Kalani is indeed our rat, I just don't see how that information can just accidentally slip out. If you have that type of information and you share it with an enemy, that is intent. Just about anywhere you go though, if you're being black mailed and you give information, you're a rat... you should have withheld that information no matter what. I don't like to think there are grey areas with rats... even though there are at times.
I have to give this episode another listen though, between road rage and my co-worker talking to me I feel like I missed too much. Lol!
New here, but wanted to add my .02 and I didn't see it mentioned yet. During one of the maller attacks on Michael et al.. Scratch makes a comment that she has two people to trade. Anyone else remember this? One maybe would be Hannah? The other Lizzy? I believe this was right before Kalaini helicopter crashed. So maybe more confirmation on who the rat is...
Hidey hi and welcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by forgottenone
I did mention it earlier in this thread that it's very possible that the second person Scratch was referring to was Hannah but we just all assumed it was Lizzy being preggers. It will also be a topic on the upcoming WND #30. I really like this as a theory because it ties into this horrible possibility that Scratch fucked with Kalani so hard that he killed himself for no reason.
Just a little hair dye is all you might need.....
Edit: I keep saying Kalani killed himself/is dead. No body, no official death. Could be that's who Scratch found after the tower collapsed. Doubtful, but possible.
Exactly!Quote:
Originally Posted by cupcakezombie
Sure you can argue that maybe he didn't want to bring forth this type of information for fear of how the Tower might have reacted towards him being involved with the Mallers... Their arch nemesis. But if you can't be honest, then you can't be up to any good.
So I say it again, if Kalani is the rat (who knows, things can go spiraling out of control in this story and it's someone else.) But if he is, he's a rat end of story. There is no grey, no accidental, no oopsies.