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Would one of those fit in a wall safe? Seems like those would be a little too large to store in something like that. And assuming they are the ones who raided the Military base, are those the types of items that would be kept there? Seems like that would be mentioned by Angel, Saul or Michael as an option to have a high explosive at the ready.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkum
If its from Burts wall safe...anything is possible.
:mad:Pippin ---- what in the monkey &&&&&&& a football friday hell is the deal. I really gave the tower folks more credit in sniffing out something that doesnt smell right. Yes I know that I as the listener am privvy to more info than they are at the moment and have heard things they have not but why would they not be a little more cautious with this guy. All kinds of odd things are happening and this guy just strolls up all beat to hell and they take him in and clean him up, which is the humane thing to do. But am I not correct in thinking that he is already up on a higher floor and closer to where he can stir up some trouble if he is indeed a plant as we are led to assume? I need several of you to set me straight on this as I can't yell at the episode anymore than i have about this.
They definitely haven't finished vetting him. I'm pretty sure there will be more suspicion from Michael, Angel, and others. However, at the time, they have more pressing matters. I think they are keeping a close eye on him.Quote:
Originally Posted by mem
But here's a devil's advocate type of theory. :P
What if the bruises aren't from the mallers? What if Pippen is a slow turner like Tanya had described? (Our first description of the zombies are that they were covered in bruises)
Weren't they described as "sores?" Anyway, those were the first cases of infected and Pippen is talking in complete sentences.
Tonya is experienced enough to be able to tell the difference between bruises caused by blunt force trauma (hemotoma) and someone with a disorder and she's pretty intimate with the details concerning the infection stages.
Pippen says he was with the Mallers, but not WITH them. What does that mean and how did a Brit end up with them in the first place?
It'll be pretty hard to be a mole when they know he's a maller. It'd be hard to be sneaky when everyone has an eye on you.
I think Pippen is going to be more of an asset to the tower than a liability. He'll be able to give them intel on what is going on with the Mallers.
I am a little confused about what happens in this episode, can you help me out? Two things:
- if the arm is stuck in the tanker Lizzie & Co are in, how comes they notice its length and color and everything just when it's dropped on the ground? I mean, it was in the car with them. Also "Get out of the car" "the arm is on my way" doesn't make sense to me O_o. You open the door and the arm falls out, done.
- what happens at the arena? they planned to detonate the tankers or did they have a bomb? The first doesn't make sense to me as they are actually inside the tankers and it would be suicide, the second doesn't explain then why they bring tankers and not something smaller and nimble.
I love this role that is developing for Bricks... Either Tar will be dead or severely pissed when they come to and all the mallers have abandoned them. So either Tar tries to attack/rape Lizzie again and Bricks defends her or Bricks goes with Lizzie back to the tower protecting Lizzie the entire time ripping zombies in half with his bear hands.... either gaining Saul's trust or his enmity.
@Crowbar How did a Brit end up in LA? It's a big city, lots of different cultures, its not far fetched that he's british.
@J0be
I don't think he's a slow turner, because if that was the case then a scratch or an open wound would have been mentioned. He's covered in bruises but bruises wont turn you. He just seems like a good way to wrap up the mole issue.
You know if the whole raping thing hadn't happened, I would have liked tardust, He's kinda growin on me, him and bricks are just like pinky and the brain, except the brain rapes people... and pinky kills zombies
The only Brits I ever see are on vacation..er, HOLIDAY and not expats. LOL. Ok, so I'll buy that for a dollar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ra1th
Clem131.. I think the damn arm was still moving while they were driving.. i think! it still trying to get them would have been creepy. LOL.
Just playing the devil's advocate. But remember the person Victor described as having a gash on their foot. (Or am I merging Pegs with someone, hmm.) What I'm saying with that is maybe he's infected in ways not that visible, eg: Tommy was infected without wounds. What if Pippen was forced to become infected? It would be an insidious move by the Mallers to force infect someone, and then get them to get inside the tower. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ra1th
Nope. Tommy did not have any wounds. The infection was spread through his eyes and/or mouth. Also, this could be engineered as a slow turner, not a quick one like the most we see. Also, his mission could just be to take out the commanders (eg: Michael, Angel, Saul, Burt, etc.)Quote:
Originally Posted by HaveCrowBarWillTravel
Slow turning would be a random act. I'm going back to listen to the tommy epi again.. i coulda swore he had an open wound of some sort.
Arkum.. you trouble maker you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkum
I think the Tower folk have grown up a bit. They're a bit more "Seasoned" after the War.
We don't know that it couldn't be engineered. Bwahaha!Quote:
Originally Posted by HaveCrowBarWillTravel
LOL... granted..
@ j0be that's my problem though, if pippin was a slow turner, and he did turn at one point, it would be totally random, there wouldnt have been any hints to it. I'm sure the twoer will have a run in with a slow turner eventually but i just think this guy is for the mole storyline
Maybe, but while Michael holds the key to the kingdom I don't think they will be turning anyone away or headshotting randoms either.Quote:
Originally Posted by HaveCrowBarWillTravel
I mean they just met this guy, he admited to being with the Mallers and they still bring him right upstairs. How much have they really learned?
Great episode yet again Kc! Anyway it took a while to get caught up 'cuz everyone's jazzed up on this one. :)
Couple thoughts:
1) Pippin is either A) a dirty liar trying to trick the tower, or B) a scientist that knows something about the zombies, that the mallers captured for their own benefit.
2) Durai obviously knew early on about the arena. Because he started collecting tankers before the mallers and the tower folk met. Maybe someone escaped the arena and told them.
3) @ Wra1th. I believe on an earlier post, you mentiioned the possibility of a mating ritual at the arena. I have to say I was also thinking of this. What if new zombies can be bred, but they need a human host? Disgusting, but a good theory.
He has an armed escort.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkum
An armed escort by Mr. jammed rifle himself ;)
Don't know if someone else pointed this out later on in this thread so I'll post it anyway. That was not the first time that second call was heard. Back in Chapter 13-Separate Dying Embers Part 3 at around 8:42 that call is used to call the zombies attacking the tower back to wherever. Probably the Arena. Anyway, hope that clears that up a bit. Didn't sound like "Paul" to me either.
Yes! This helps my theory that there is something bigger and badder out there like a queen (or master) zombie of the city!Quote:
Originally Posted by Orik960
I pointed that out earlier in this thread (re: the howl) that call that was heard came from the figure on the roof, not from a distance. Michael described the whole scene vividly.
So again, it comes to the debate how many pimp ass zombies are there because the one on the roof saul, lizzy and burt encountered is the same as the one heard in chapter 13. And the one on the roof of the diner used the more oft heard howl in the series.
Yes he did! YEP! and another YEP! LOL..Quote:
Originally Posted by j0be
Chapter 12 4/4. Time hack: 23:42 Angels says "Tommy just had a scratch..."
Yeah, I believe Tommy had a scratch on his neck from the explosion, and Burt made a joke that a little more to the side and he would have lost his head. (Not in those exact words)Quote:
Originally Posted by HaveCrowBarWillTravel
I believe there is only one "Pimp ass zombie", the only times there have been issues with him being in two places at once, there has been ample time for him to get to those places.
Did I mention, Great Episode.
lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ra1th
I expect Tardust to die or be injured and all of them left behind. At least, that's what I'm hoping.
Well, if you thought you could take out your enemies in one felled swoop, wouldn't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Austin king
Durai is alive because he didn't get killed during the War (as many of us predicted.....we really need to make that "I Told You So" Thread....).
I'd imagine that about 50% of the arena is going to catch on fire at least (that's what it looked like in the artowrk). But Tardust seemed to know his explosives and if he says they didn't have enough, I betcha they didn't have enough to actually blow the whole thing up like they were planning.
Here's a thought, what if the Mailers were in it from the get go, for example, the genetic zombie testing was being performed on the inmates at Eastern Bay. Inmates would be ideal for testing, some would would participate for a shorter sentence and some would be forced into it. They are confined, and if something goes wrong, the situation could be chalked up to an "accident". You have to wonder where the Mallers get all their intel and in such as short time. It would also explain the the different types of zombies, markings and the tattoo number 5. For example, if Bricks was test on, would he be a "Big One" Also, why would the zombies, at the area, want to toy with there food before eating it. Very similar to prisoners with the first taste of power and freedom.
What I don't understand, is that once its burning, why would it stop burning?
Fires burn themselves out when they run out of fuel. If everything in the fires path gets burned, the fire will eventually just go out on it's own.Quote:
Originally Posted by WestonWisdom
Whatever happens, the lack of proper firepower leaves an opening for Ink to show up again.
My question with Pippin is, what power do the Mallers hold over him that makes him okay with being beaten, cut and left out in the open. My guess is family.
Or freedom. I do not believe Pippin is/was a Maller, it's too obvious, he could just be telling the truth.
Well if it only just burns and doesn't explode, I would imagine most Zombies (especially if there is intelligent ones in there) would just run out of it. The intent was probably to surprise attack them, and seriously dent their numbers quickly. Which it appears they failed to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by WestonWisdom
You would think that Tardust (the rapist) would know about the smell thing then wouldn't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guts Malone
This is turning out to be an amazing chapter.
The most exciting thing in this episode for me was the description of the little one’s arm. The presence of the tattoo definitely implies that someone or something made them.
Assuming that the these specialized zombies have not always been around and that the mutations aren’t occurring because of prolonged or more intense exposure to the origin point of the outbreak means that our survivors can go check out where the first attacks happened without turning themselves into “them”. I am crossing my fingers that we get a look at one of the epicenters, even if it is only a fly over in a helicopter.
It would be insane if Pin-stripe was the one responsible for the new specialized zombies somehow. But there is also the possibility that whoever is responsible for the original outbreak is still around. The way prisoners were being captured instead of eaten also hints to more sinister motives than keeping their food fresh. It makes the arena even more horrifying because it has possibly been a zombie factory this entire time.
And I thought that David Pevsner was awesome as Tar (I am glad they are shortening it now because every time they say Tardust I hear Tardis) in this episode. I definitely want to know what Tar thinks he knows about the zombies.