OH MY GOD, THANK YOU KC!!! for a moment i was thinking i should go download itunes ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kc
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OH MY GOD, THANK YOU KC!!! for a moment i was thinking i should go download itunes ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kc
why not download from itunes? u get it immediately it comes out and u can re-listen to episodes :DQuote:
Originally Posted by laxspartan007
Anyways wats up guys, awesome episode! immediately Tar mention that the roads were trapped i was exactly like lizzi, i was screaming AMBUSH! lol (in my mind of course) yah i totally saw that coming, and it sounded amazing,
im very interested in the little 'uns, i'm very excited to see the return of Ink and the specialized zombies
imma admit i didn't recognize pippin until came onto these forums, and there is no doubt in my mind that he was sent by the mallers as a spy, things are about to get hella interesting in the tower :D
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Originally Posted by neilpower
However, it is evident that whatever they we're planning they have beeen planning since chapter 6, before they went after the tower.
Which is why they needed all those tankers in the first place right? Wouldn't it be fun to find out the Mallets are headed to the fort that the tower is headed for?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cutting-T
"The Mark of the Beast" could also imply that one of the survivors is marked as a target for the beast (say Ink wants one of them, for instance).
I'm thinking that the Mark of the Beast has several references in this chapter; Scratches scar, Ink's tattoos, the road block marking an ambush, the cut on Lizzie's leg from that tardust sob who tried to rape her, whatever Saul plans to do (leave his mark on the Mallers because right now, that boy is in beast-mode), and possibly some tattoo that Pippin has that would identify him as having been in prison, like a gang tat or something.
At first I believe the Mallers were headed towards the colony, going south on 110. But after I heard about and saw the chapter art I immediately felt that the Mallers were headed for the arena. What thier reasons are for heading there I don't know. Maybe they were going to offer the slaves to Ink or something, but I can't see how that would make sense. A truce between humans and biters just doesn't seem likely to me. Perhaps they were headed there to exterminate the nest, taking tankers full of gas to burn the arena down. Or maybe they were on thier way to a new home (with a definite locale in mind) and just happened to catch Ink's attention.
I don't think they are going too far though because if they planted Pippin at the Tower, that means they are going to stick close by. If they were leaving the state they'd probably give two shits about the Tower. Hmmm, maybe the Mallers were going on an all out offensive: eliminate the zombie threat by burning down the arena, then return to the Tower with Pippin as your inside man and take over. If the Tower was able to use the zombies as cavalry in the last fight, what happens if you take away that support? IDK, there is just so much that could happen. Is it Monday yet?
I have to say, I'm very interested in Lizzy this season. I can't help but wonder how much knowledge she would retain if turned? I say this because she is always the first to notice when the zombies make a trap. If she was turned instead of her and the two Mallers escaping, would she be able to help them [zombies] make better traps?
As for where the Mallers are heading? Part of me wants to believe that they are heading towards the Colony. Their mobilizing so close to Marcus' supposed downfall is too convenient. I think they met some of the recon teams when the teams were out and eventually spoke through the to incite the rebellion.
I don't see the Mallers going to the arena since they don't seem to be the bunch to want to research the creatures or rescue a comrade. But if they want to cut down the number of zombies, maybe setting that place ablaze would help, but I'm also not sure how they would know that the arena is where the zombies all go back to since they don't even know zombies make traps.
As for Pippin, I don't know. I don't remember Scratch saying anything about him, but I also need to re-listen to the episode anyways. He could have been a troublesome slave (like Michael would have been had he been captured by them) that she wants to beat the crap out of and leave for dead, or a mole, or someone to communicate with the Tower's mole.
I have to agree with you Nik. It does look like the arena on fire.Quote:
Originally Posted by nikvoodoo
Does anyone think that Bricks might not be a bad guy?
This episode laid out A LOT! Holy crap.
Yeah I can see Bricks "escaping" the Mallers with Lizzie. but will the Tower ever trust him? Especially with Pippen in the picture now too.
I would trust Bricks before Pippen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkum
I've been lurking on the forum for about 3 months now...sort of waiting for my theory on this to pop up. Finally, after reading THIS post, I decided to join so I could respond to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperSerge76
In one of the episodes during the first season, it's revealed that Angel can hot-wire cars, but he doesn't really want to talk about where/how he developed this talent. He was then quick to distance himself from Scratch around the others, but he does seem to have some sort of secret connection to her (dropping off Latch's body inexplicably). Does anyone think that maybe Angel has some sort of criminal background, and probably knows some of the Mallers due to this? We don't really have a lot of details one way or the other, but....it just seemed like this sort of "slipped through the cracks" so to speak...
Wow man. My thoughts...
1) That IS art of the arena burning! wtf? I think the Mallers are trying to eliminate the zombie nest??? But don't forget the zombies lit fires in there. It could have been an accident...
2) I guess Lizzy's "no" was to Tardust driving in the opposite direction, or meeting up with all the packed up tankers.
3) I think Kalani's trainee pilot for the second helicopter will be Pegs. (Her father was a pilot)
4) Lizzy is sick because of the zombies. (Don't know why, but... maybe they are secreting their own pheramones like an insect hive) But why just her and not Tardust & Bricks?
5) The Mallers are keeping slaves to clear the roads and do their dirty work.
6)Pippen got the shit beaten out of him obviously... I think he is either a scientist from the labs that knows about the virus that the mallers imprisoned, or a dirty traitor maller that is going to try to play our tower team for fools.
7) I just don't know where the mallers are planning on settling! I want to say the colony because they were evesdropping on all of the towers conversations. But imagine if they all tried going for Fort Erwin and there was a Giant Final War? NEXT EPISODE PLEEEASE!!!!!
I agree with you PlutoniumX. Angel & Scratch prob have a criminal past and Angel doesn't want it to harm his reputation as a "leader" in the tower. Also, I think it was... Yarri maybe... (Don't kill me if I'm wrong) that suggested maybe Angel was on the jury that convicted her. (Which would explain why she knows his face, but didn't know his name) If that's the case, when she realizes it... she WILL BE PISSED!!!! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by PlutoniumX
The One with the Markings is Ink, the tattooed one, the smart zombie who infiltrated the Tower in chapter 11. But if he is siding with the Mallers, why did he attack their convoy?Quote:
Originally Posted by fairyfartz
Don't hate the player, KC. Hate the game!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kc
Some comments:
1. The radio being so loud won't make a difference with so many big trucks. You wouldn't be able to hear a radio with so many tractor trailors. Tardust is definitely an idiot because he honked the horn. That would be louder than the radio!
2. Bricks is hilarious and definitely mans up against Tardust in this episode.
3. Has anyone commented about a broken neck killing the zombie? Bricks said he broke its neck, implying that it was a death blow to the zombie. That seems significant in some way.
4. I agree that the arm will prove to be significant. Maybe Lizzy uses it to turn Tardust? Maybe some blood already got to Tardust and he turns at the beginning of the next episode. Not much time passed between that event and when we switched over to the tower. Tardust turns making it necessary for others to kill him or for Bricks to break his neck.
Just my thoughts.
I don't think Pippin can be a rat if we presume that the mallers were in a convoy rather than it being a co-ordinated attack against the Arena, what would be the logical benefit of leaving a rat behind if your moving onto better and brighter pastures, perhaps by "dropping off" she meant leaving him behind.
Rock Daddy:
Wow man. My thoughts...
1) That IS art of the arena burning! wtf? I think the Mallers are trying to eliminate the zombie nest??? But don't forget the zombies lit fires in there. It could have been an accident...
I agree that it is the Arena, though I don't think the fire is an accident. I don't think something like that would be album cover worthy.
2) I guess Lizzy's "no" was to Tardust driving in the opposite direction, or meeting up with all the packed up tankers. KC confirmed that it was Lizzy saying no because she saw the Mallers had abandoned the strip mall.
3) I think Kalani's trainee pilot for the second helicopter will be Pegs. (Her father was a pilot) Really? Crap, I missed that detail. If that's true, then I agree Pegs will be the most likely canidate.
4) Lizzy is sick because of the zombies. (Don't know why, but... maybe they are secreting their own pheramones like an insect hive) But why just her and not Tardust & Bricks? Nah, she's pregnant...or just really gets disugsted by being raped.
5) The Mallers are keeping slaves to clear the roads and do their dirty work. Lazy bastards. But it has been suggested that they are sacrificing them to Ink for some sort of truce. I don't think so. I think they are just keeping slaves for fodder, grunt work, and maybe, maybe to trade with the colony.
6)Pippen got the shit beaten out of him obviously... I think he is either a scientist from the labs that knows about the virus that the mallers imprisoned, or a dirty traitor maller that is going to try to play our tower team for fools. Pippen seems to me to be a mole, but I did also suspect that he was a scientist, though I have no real evidence to back that up. The only reason I suspected so was because his acent reminded me of the scientist from Planet Terror (the dude with a white coat, Jerry-curls, and got his head blown up).
7) I just don't know where the mallers are planning on settling! I want to say the colony because they were evesdropping on all of the towers conversations. But imagine if they all tried going for Fort Erwin and there was a Giant Final War? NEXT EPISODE PLEEEASE!!!!!
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Zombies don't work with humans... ever. End of story, it's just not something that seems plausible in the We're Alive universe
Maybe I'm going crazy-- I DO remember there being a point where Angel recommended the prison as a place to stay at because he as well as Michael knew how they worked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock Daddy
Yes YOU would. But if the tower finds out he's an Maller spy, then Lizzie shows up with one. its gonna be WAR against Bricks no matter how nice he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by yarri
I just had a thought- maybe Pippin has something to do with the small zomibes? Pippin was the name of a hobbit in Lord of the Rings, so maybe that was the reason why KC picked that name? Probably thinking about this way too much lol...
Angel recommended it because its the only thing equivalent to a fortress or castle in modern society. Prisons are safe from external attacks. </devilsadvocate>Quote:
Originally Posted by AdrianHD
But I agree that it could be interpreted this way. He also said he knew he could survive in a cell. But I'm sure my military brethren on this forum can set the record straight. If he had done any time, could he have been in the Officer school?
If he signed up at roughly the same time as Saul, perhaps his previous record wouldn't have mattered.Quote:
Originally Posted by nikvoodoo
My friend pointed out that Tardust expressed concerns that they were pulling off the directions provided on the map. Scratch said they were taking a "detour". Later we hear that they are going through a park. Using Google maps I saw that Elysian Park is right off of 110. If 110 was blocked with debris, this could be the park that Ink led them into to spring the ambush.
I wish we could have heard Tardust's complete story about the encounter at the Police Dept. Interesting. What do you think they were doing there? Looking for ammo, or something more?
Yeah I don't think they're in the same bed with the zombies, but they did talk about knowing which roads were clear. That tells me they have been doing some extensive travelling. I could for sure see them blowing up the arena. The less amount of zombies the easier it might be to take the tower, not for save haven but for what 20-30 new slaves. Maybe they have a deal with the colony but in order to get entrance they have a couple missions, blow up the arena and bring Micheal back to the colony! Pegs is their way of luring out Micheal. Micheal being a marked target of the mallers and Ink trying to put a kabosh on both the maller's and the Tower's plans.
he didnt sign up at the same time as Saul. Saul enlisted at 18 or 19 and he's like mid 20's now. Saul's been there for a looong time. Angel is fresh, probably did ROTC in college I'd say he's been in the army for a year at mostQuote:
Originally Posted by WestonWisdom
The Mallers wouldn't pull up stakes and just attack the Arena without a new safe location to retreat back to if everything should blow up in their faces. The Colony is the first place they'll hit. Once setted in the Arena will be next to eliminate the largest known nest of creatures which will make operating in the city a little safer. After that, the Tower will be easier to take.
A random thought... What else can tankers to be used for than carrying fuel or a rolling fire bomb? Use them as modified trojan horses filled with armed men instead of fuel and drive them into the Colony with the folks on the walls thinking they're bringing them gasoline for trade. Will that happen? Probably not with my luck but I'm calling it anyways and its something underhanded that the Mallers would try.
Are fuel tankers ever really empty though? I'm not sure how transport of fuel works but surely it would be nigh-impossible to fully empty a sealed container like that? That means that merely making modifications to the tankers would be dangerous, and if they were using unmodified tankers and going through the hole at the top it would be a very slow process and the wardens (who have heat vision) would shoot them within seconds.Quote:
Originally Posted by neilpower
They can indeed be fully emptied. The bottoms of those tanks are sloped to the middle, and that is where the hose and pump attach to the main tank.Quote:
Originally Posted by WestonWisdom
And I just had a thought, what if those tankers are filled with jet fuel, and not regular unleaded?
I'm not sure how long a group could survive sealed in a tanker with those fumes
If the mallers are going for the nest all I can say is WOW! That's ballsy if ballsy is a word.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock Daddy
I think her no was the fact they weren't going toward the "mall"?
number 3.. YES
4. If Saul is going to go out like a thug saving her life I hope she is preggers. Something of him has to be left if he dies.
5. Yes I think your correct. They are doing nasty stuff to the slaves. I don't think (cant remember who said this) that they are using them as a bribe to Ink.. bait maybe but not a bribe.
6. Pippen is a dirty lying rat.
It was me!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock Daddy
Just a little note: Did anyone notice that Lizzy was throwing up again? When the little one's arm was left behind, you can hear Tardust say ignore it, and her and if you pay attention you hear Lizzy puking again. I think the fact that she's not being raped right now could mean that she's experiencing morning sickness. I know when my wife was pregnant, stress and/or off-putting sights and smells made her sick.
This could also explain why in 20-3 Scratch suddenly changed her mind about how Lizzy was treated. As soon as Scratch saw Lizzy throw up and said "your sick?" Lizzy expains she can't help it. It seems as though Scratch understands Lizzy may be pregnant. She instructs Tar to remove her handcuffs, AND not to fuck with her despite having just said she didn't care if Tar went to town on her a short while earlier. I think as cold as Scratch may be, the thought of hurting a pregnant woman is just too much. She's willing to be civil. Besides, pregant Lizzy might be a valuable bargaining chip.
I'm also hoping that Bricks will get tired of Tardust's shit and snap his neck. It seems like Bricks is one of those quiet guys who bottles things up inside till he justs explodes and hulks out. There has to be a reason he was in Eastern Bay to begin with. I'm crossing my fingers that Bricks snaps Tardust in half.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eviebae
The fuel trucks could be used as a bribe to get into the colony, and are probably rigged to explode should the need arise.
I think Scratch would be more apt to keep Lizzy alive and ok for use against the tower later on. If she is found out to be pregnant, they are more likely to do anything to get her back unharmed. And so far she is unhurt which Scratch would use to her advantage as well. Look, we kept her safe but if you don't......
I doubt she cares little for the baby itself as much as she cares about using it as a bargaining chip.