Chapter 20 Part 3 Discussion

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Originally Posted by nikvoodoo

I don't feel like we've dove into the other people Scratch brought up while in the furniture store enough. Anyone have thoughts as to who they might be? What their purpose is? Anybody think the Mallers have worked out some deal with the One With The Markings and are providing him with sacrifices to spare themselves? ;)

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Now that could be one reason why they're able to muck about the area so easily! It could also be why there are so many deserters beat feet and why it's so important to round them up. I don't see giving up a body know and then outside of Durai's personality. If it's a good "Business" decision, then its sound.

The flip side: The only thing is they'd have to give up a good number of bodies to keep the "Wolves" at bay. Dwindling manpower IS one thing I see that would keep Durai from bargaining.

Nik,

I loved the "Free floating" idea there. Way to churn up the mud. Now just join in with my "Arena" craziness Mon Ami!

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Originally Posted by Arkum

But the Mallers don't want Burt. they want Pegs.

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True, but I think in Scratch's eyes, Burt is higher on her the shit list than Lizzie is. Scratch may WANT to trade Lizzie for Peggs, but could end up settling on Burt.

Scratch doesn't hit me as the type to settle, more like she'll take both and keep Lizzie

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Originally Posted by Arkum

Scratch doesn't hit me as the type to settle, more like she'll take both and keep Lizzie

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True. She'll definitely try and get the better end of the bargain. Wouldn't be a crazy twist if Durai is still alive and running the show. Then when Scatch is shouting at Michael and crew about making a trade, Durai gets fed up with her and just popps one in the back of her head, turns to Michael and says, "Take the blonde girl back. We'll take Burt and some of those guns."

Where do you suppose Scratch is taking Pippin? I thought maybe, just maybe, she might be dropping Pippin off near the Tower in an attempt to infiltrate it as a new mole. Either that or she's simply taking Pippin to replace some guard they haven't heard from in a while, probably assumed dead. Still, the way Scratch and Tardust (Tard) were so ambiguous in thier speach has my suspicions raised. Grrr!!! The 25th is so far away!

I feel like the Tower is done taking people in. Been burned by the one with the markings and the whole Mallers thing, i think they would be a bit skeptical of everyone at this point. Though the leaders are all away right now so it would be an optimum time to try something.

I'm not exactly sure how Burt is even remotely close to a bargaining chip. Why would the Mallers care about Burt? Sure he's a good shot, but it's not like a trade in sports where you change teams and automatically you play to win for your new team. To me, Burt makes no sense to get exchanged for. Pegs on the other hand, makes perfect sense because Scratch wants her for a very specific reason. If Durai is still around, he might ruin Scratch's revenge by not wanting to make the exchange.

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Originally Posted by nikvoodoo

I'm not exactly sure how Burt is even remotely close to a bargaining chip. Why would the Mallers care about Burt? Sure he's a good shot, but it's not like a trade in sports where you change teams and automatically you play to win for your new team. To me, Burt makes no sense to get exchanged for. Pegs on the other hand, makes perfect sense because Scratch wants her for a very specific reason. If Durai is still around, he might ruin Scratch's revenge by not wanting to make the exchange.

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I think Burt pisses a lot of people off. If bargaining begins, I'm sure he can sell himself with his charming personality. He'll spit words at Scratch like Scarface and Ugly Bitch. Plus doesn't Scratch have one of his pistols? I agree that Pegs is really what scratch wants, but Burt might be a reasonable substitute. I can also agree that Durai would ruin Scratch's plans at revenge. He'd say, "Screw your plan to trade Lizzie for Pegs just for revenge. Michael, we want to form an alliance." Michael replies, "Okay, kill Scratch and maybe..." *gunshot* Scratch falls dead. Okay all that in itallics was just bull, but it's still fun to picture.

I don't know. I just have this bad feeling about Burt's fate. He's feeling guilty about failng as a leader, failing to keep Lizzie safe...and now they believe she was raped. Burt needs a huge act of redemption and sacrificing himself would be the ultimate redemption.

It might not even be about getting someone on your team. Remember, the Mallers know that Burt is an excellent shot and an all-around pain in their ass, so they might want to trade Lizzy, who they probably consider worthless, for Burt just to make sure that Burt's not there to mess up their plans.

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Originally Posted by BruceBonsai

I think what may happen is that Lizzy was somehow infected by Saul (if he is a carrier) hence the vomiting and then she turns while under captivity of the Mallers.
After a hard fought battle with the Mallers the tower folk come across a freshly infected Lizzy and Saul is the one to do what has to be done. Sad face.
Maybe even Scratch and Bricks join the Tower, they are great characters.

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HA! I love this idea. She could be a slow turner. That could be plausible if Saul is immune but kisses it up with Lizzy. Pass the infection and turn the woman you love. That would be a tragic moment of realization.