If all hell broke loose right now, what would you do?

Ra1th,

The best thing to do is stay the hell away from any zombie/infected/creature at all costs. If you HAVE to be out and about, then you're best bet is a sword or crowbarish type weapon.
IF the only way you can destroy one of them is a head shot, then 95% of us are dead! Head shots on stationary targets are hard as hell. Military and Law enforcement are taught to shoot center mass. Why? Because head shots are damn near impossible. Try it when you're scared as hell, your arms are shaking and this thing is coming at you. You have a chance with old school Zombies. These new Things?.. not a chance
Hitting someone upside the old bean with a bat. It won't jam or run out of ammo either.

..or maybe I need to go to the range more often. LOL

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Originally Posted by Ra1th

we also know that nothing short of killing it will stop it as they feel no pain, (riley shot one in the leg wiht an arrow, and it didnt even notice).

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They actually do feel pain, remember in Chapter 18-1 Kalani and Angel were shooting the behemoth and it covered its face? I don't think it was doing that just for fun.

Ra1th,

I agree on all points about avoiding the undead. My goals would be to avoid a confrontation at all possible costs. I'd prefer a stealthy retreat, but if all hell broke loose I'd be hard pressed in believing I'd make it without having to test my mettle against a few zed heads.

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Originally Posted by Onslaught

They actually do feel pain, remember in Chapter 18-1 Kalani and Angel were shooting the behemoth and it covered its face? I don't think it was doing that just for fun.

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That might not be so much pain, as it is survival instinct, it knows that its head is its weakspot, a well placed headshot will bring it down, so it protects its head so that it wont take a headshot. plus it realises its in combat, and that there is an active threat, so it still might not be feeling pain.

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Originally Posted by Ra1th

That might not be so much pain, as it is survival instinct, it knows that its head is its weakspot, a well placed headshot will bring it down, so it protects its head so that it wont take a headshot. plus it realises its in combat, and that there is an active threat, so it still might not be feeling pain.

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Well we don't know much about the zombies, the regulars don't feel pain the example you brought up when Riley shot the zombie in the leg incapacitating it and yet it kept going shows that the regular ones don't feel pain but we don't know if this goes for all of them. When Kalani and Angel we're being chased by the behemoth it kept roaring it also did it when they attacked it, so it could be a roar of frustration or of pain. Maybe only some of them do and some of them don't.

yeah definitely, i'll bet anything that the smart ones can still feel pain

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Originally Posted by Ra1th

yeah definitely, i'll bet anything that the smart ones can still feel pain

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I think they can too Ra1th, they're smart enough to form plans, trick humans, and talk, I'm starting to think that maybe we should't call them zombies, it's more of a mutation than an infection, don't you think?

Onslaught,
Go to Amazon's listmaina and build your own Zombie survival list. Search for maddlion to read mine. LOL.

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Originally Posted by HaveCrowBarWillTravel

Onslaught,
Go to Amazon's listmaina and build your own Zombie survival list. Search for maddlion to read mine. LOL.

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To quote Saul, 'I think I just wet myself.'

Grab weapons and head up to my high school.

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Originally Posted by Destiny

Grab weapons and head up to my high school.

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Is your high school big? Cause I sure as hell can't do that theres three separate buildings a few trailers, and about 30 entrances.

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Originally Posted by Onslaught

Is your high school big? Cause I sure as hell can't do that theres three separate buildings a few trailers, and about 30 entrances.

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Yep, mine's pretty big, and has a lot of entrances. But would be far more secure than my local sheriff's office which is a really small building in a strip mall.

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Originally Posted by Destiny

Yep, mine's pretty big, and has a lot of entrances. But would be far more secure than my local sheriff's office which is a really small building in a strip mall.

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The JDA (John D. Adams) One of the buildings) at my high school would be so secure. 3 entrances has two stories medium size, it has 3 staircases an elevator and I think thats it. Small windows, and the doors aren't glass the're the big heavy ones you see at an emergency exit.

u guys are lucky, most of the highschools in california are outdoor ones, so they are all seperate buildings, and none of them are very secure. alongside that the buildings arent very tough either, most houses are made with drywall and wood so that in case of an earth quake, and ur house collapses, it wont kill u like bricks and mortar would.

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Originally Posted by Ra1th

u guys are lucky, most of the highschools in california are outdoor ones, so they are all seperate buildings, and none of them are very secure. alongside that the buildings arent very tough either, most houses are made with drywall and wood so that in case of an earth quake, and ur house collapses, it wont kill u like bricks and mortar would.

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Our police department is made of brick and is secure as shit, one entrance, I repeat, ONE entrance. Has like three or four emergency exits but only one way to get in. And I forgot about the new high school they're building here. One entrance to drive in and out of, with fence surrounding it (to stop all of the ditching) guarded by a security guard (at least they say it will be) with one way to get out. Two stories with one entrance and about a dozen exits. It won't be done until 2012-2013, so lets hope the zombie apocalypse doesn't come until then.

So, you guys run to your HS huh? So, lets say the ish hits the fan while you're at home. What's the distance to the school and what stores/buildings are in the immediate area to help you survive?
I had to update mine to include the Dade County Police training building. There's also 3 hardware stores, a 5 gas stations, 2 construction equipment sales store (think earthmovers) and a LIQUID OXYGEN depot.

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Originally Posted by HaveCrowBarWillTravel

Ok Troops! What's your plan when the Eat'em Ups appear?
Do you actually have weapons at home?
Would you board up your house or find a better location?

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Fortify a COSTCO and you'd be set. They're usually just large brick warehouses with shutters that can be locked down and are stocked with a lot of food,clothes and weapons/things that can be used as weapons and possibly a survival book. They also have generators and many other useful things to sustain a group for an extended stay before having to endure the apocalyptic conditions outside.

Holy Cow Beaumont! That is a f'n brilliant idea. The only thing I can think of is what to do about the big ass front windows at the entrances. I just found 2 more gun shops all within 5 miles of the HS i'd hole up in.

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Holy Cow Beaumont! That is a f'n brilliant idea. The only thing I can think of is what to do about the big ass front windows at the entrances. I just found 2 more gun shops all within 5 miles of the HS i'd hole up in.

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The one I go to doesn't have any "big ass front windows" but I guess if the one you end up in does then that would be part of the fortifying efforts.

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Originally Posted by RamblinMike

Wish'd my old man had a yacht I could run to - that is awesome.

All I've got is an aluminum bat and a ball-peen hammer. Improvised melee stuff.I live less than a block from the National Guard, so I'd want to see if they have any weapons. A few blocks south is a friend who keeps a nice assortment of shotguns and revolvers.

Jehovah's Witnesses don't put windows on their buildings, in order to avoid vandalism. I remember there's a Kingdom Hall right outside of town, and considering their apocalyptic beliefs and conservative politics, I bet they'd have lots of guns. That's where me and the wife would hole up.

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The bit on windows is correct, but I know for a fact that Kingdom Halls do not house "lots guns," lol! No, I myself am not a JW, but I have family who are. I've also occasionally attended said Kingdom Halls in my youth.

I just wanted to let you know that you'll have to find another means to acquire your guns. :)

EDIT: Oh! You mean Jehovah's Witnesses would have guns...maybe, but I wouldn't count on it. For a minute I thought you meant they store guns at the KH. XD

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Originally Posted by RamblinMike

Nope, they just aren't allowed to serve in the military. It has to do with their doctrine of separation. Worldly government and all that.

There is always the county jail, or juvy hall up the road. Those are probably both better than a Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses. My lesson for today is that, if there were a zombie apocalypse, I'd likely be lunch for my zombie neighbors.

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Chances are you wouldn't have any other choice but to be lunch for the zombies because Kingdom Halls accommodated A LOT of congregations (at different time slots). so there probably wouldn't even be room. Chances are, JWs will be there first.

Not to mention being blind. Without windows or better than that tactical lookouts there is little to be known on what is going on even 6" away... that may desired. Hear no zombie, see no zombie.
Teeth

I would find a lab and do experiments on the zombies! At the beach side home! possibly Alcatraz? Stock up on food, Ammo, gas, generators, tow trucks, and MOVIES!

Given a choice, hiding is better than fighting. Fighting means being seen and being a target. Plus, you don't want to get close enough to get infected. But, what you want is choice. Weapons of different range and capability and lots of booby traps and get-a-ways.

Speaking of which, what about multiple escape routes? I keep wondering why the survivors don't have escape plans--and booby traps---and ways to close off parts of the buildings. I'm torn on the issue because more than one way out = more than one way in. But, having multiple ways out or multiple safe rooms would be good too.

Heck, you know what I wonder? Why isn't anyone doing mass kills of the Zombies? Luring masses of them into one area and destroying them from a distance...although they may just all starve to death first.

Eviebae,
Lack of ammo, lack of training with the weapons they have and lack of will to go on the offense. Who wants to be a hero?
I'd only fight when I had to. I'd most def prepare for a bug out though.
Getting infected isn't too great a worry if you're properly dressed. Shoot, you could go out in a full leather bikers outfit with helmet and bust zombie ass without worry. You might have tunnel vision with the helmet on, but it's only an example.
You just don't want to get stuck simply fighting. Stick and move.

At this point, your already dead.
I might be the dude polishing his skulls to heavy gloss in the corner..


Luring them away from your buddies anywhere would be key.
Dropping blood on a distant location would be the easiest way to distract these sharks, take a sealed glass container and place it on the end of a pull string on the back side of an adjacent building, pull that stuff and BAM no more infected monsters hammering at your front door for a while.
Then you just rig up a Molotov/pipe bomb or two in the same fashion...
HA!

As for the tower, yea they are not taking advantage of any traps or anything aside from a trip wire and an elevated position.
Wouldn't it be fun to let them get onto the 10 floor hallway then figure out a way to drop then to the first?!
Yeah, I thought so too!

XD

PS.
Shouldn't this thread be located in OFF TOPIC?

After reading both Max Brooks books, especially the Zombie Survival Guide, my son and I had a little contest to see which of us could find the best building in town to secure and defend.
Guess what.. There aren't any in my town.
Everything has big ol' glass windows or a ton of doors.
The best thing we've got going for us is a little known, but well stocked gun shop about 10 houses down.
After that, maybe lowes to get a chainsaw and cut out the stairs to my 2nd story apt.
Not a lot of options for me here lol

There's a perfect group of apartment buildings near the lake in town where I live. They have a good view of the surrounding area, have some good security measures, and are on the aforementioned lake which would be a great source of water (unless the virus can spread through water, then I'm screwed). That or a pimped out Costco.

As for guns, living in Canada hinders my immediate access to them, but I think I would just raid a local hunting store on the way over to the apartment buildings.

ready, set outbreak!

If the outbreak happens now while I'm at work I'm staying here. I work in an office suite area that runs above and below the main shopping center. It is a converted bomb shelter that has 3 entrances. One entrance is a fire door with no ability to open from the outside, the other door is another heavy steel fire exit, and the last is two sets of double doors that are shatter proof and electronically lock at night. Once inside (which I already am) you have free access to the roof. From the roof you can easily make it to the otherside of the plaza where there is a supermarket prime for the picking. In the plaza there is a drug store, a dollar store, and 2 clothing stores as well as a dental office that may contain plenty of supplies. Behind the building is a technical school which has a machine shop for repairs, or creating a custom zombie proof mobile. 3 gas stations are all within sight of the roof top allowing for someone to cover from a distance. So i'm well set down here.

If the outbreak happens at home I'm running to the local gas station. The gas station has an apartment building on the upperfloor that can only be entered after going up a flight of wooden steps. Since the building already has one of those ladders you can throw out the windows I would remove the wooden steps making it impossible for anyone to get upstairs. Now the gas station is in a prime location since the back yard is a fresh water resevoir allowing for plenty of fresh drinking water. Within 2 blocks you have 2 gas stations, a pharmacy, and 2 supermarkets. Since the town population is only something like 14,000 I would expect very little infected after the outbreak since they will most likely head south to a better feeding ground.

Get all the food in my house upstairs then barricade the staircase and just see how long me and my family can last with what we got. Either that or immediately die lol, I prefer the first

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Originally Posted by Decomposed Ass2Ass

Get all the food in my house upstairs then barricade the staircase and just see how long me and my family can last with what we got. Either that or immediately die lol, I prefer the first

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"Immediately die." I like that XD

Problem is, it probably wouldn't be immediate. More likely, your death would be slow, agonizing, and messy. That's sad... :(

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Originally Posted by Chelsea Childress

"Immediately die." I like that XD

Problem is, it probably wouldn't be immediate. More likely, your death would be slow, agonizing, and messy. That's sad... :(

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But then you get to come back and eat for a life time.

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Originally Posted by Chelsea Childress

"Immediately die." I like that XD

Problem is, it probably wouldn't be immediate. More likely, your death would be slow, agonizing, and messy. That's sad... :(

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I'd rather hide in the barricaded upstairs in my house though, than just die immediately tbh :p haha

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Originally Posted by Wicked Sid

But then you get to come back and eat for a life time.

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And that makes me happy :)

I live in a small Isolated village. We have an axe for cutting wood and a hatchet for secondary. Their is a local building to which I have a key which has an attic that can only be accessed by using a rod to pull it down. So thats my first place to hold up. Long term I put signs up advertising it as a safe house. Inside of their will be canned food (about 2 days supply for 2 people) and a radio for contact. By this time I hope to have A found a long range weapon and B have moved on to a local farm with back up safe house near by. I would go about a cull of zombies in the area (assuming their shamblers or with human capabilities). Then I would try to contact other survivors out of my area. Also should mention their is a nuclear bunker thats key I know the position of near by If I resort to hiding underground (Day by day Armageddon style).

Oh and a stop at the local high school to get the chemicals I need to create explosives etc (Taking chemistry at high school raises your chances of surviving a zombie outbreak). And get some petrol, polystyrene and hexane for napalm.

The current thread on survival has started to spiral down into the depths of obscurity and so I will begin a new one. I hope. Now the title of the next chapter in our survival discussion shall be "In which we share our perfect survival plan". Feel free to critique those of others and try not to ramble when describing your plan. Posts like this that last for ever in no particular direction are not good for keeping a conversation going!
So everybody have fun! OR ignore this and it will be another failed thread to my name!
Solanine out!

I live on the 2nd floor of a somewhat secure building. I have enough weapons in here to arm enough people to cover the entrances and there are building supplies in the basement/garage to board up the 1st floor at least. I have lots of food and with it being an apartment building, I'm sure that there is plenty available in other apartments for starters. Running water across the street so something could be set up to port some of that to us given a little time.
My biggest concern would be running out of ammo in the long term. I'd have to locate a gun store & get a reloader to go with any ammo that I could find. It would be nice to think that I would be lucky enough to find even more guns, but I doubt that...but who can carry "ALL" of the ammo & reloading supplies?
Once things stabilized, I'd head away from the city on recon runs to try to locate an area not overrun with zombies and relocate to there.

All this is also known as: I'd probably be one of the first people eaten/turned into a zombie....

Right now? Aw sheet, let's see
1) Ask myself "Are you kidding me?"
2) Realize that I am not
3) Ask myself "Are you FUDGING kidding me!?"
4) Assure myself that I am not
5) Finish my hot coco
6) Go home, put on my anti-riot armour (I had some spare change and bought a surplus riot police getup) and pick up my "Apocalypse survival kit"
7) Survive or die

Right now?
not notice. then notice too late. then die, unvaliantly. I have no illusions of grandeur. If i survived it would be a cosmic joke.

Wait a few hours. All loose hell has now gotten half way to me so I run off to my friends house and prepare for battle. E.g., we take his guns out, position are selves in his Deactived Armoured vehicles that lie right around his house. Realise that nothing will ever really bother coming for us. Sleep well.