Zombie/Creature types/ Physical Appearance

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Originally Posted by HaveCrowBarWillTravel

Ok,
Anyone's description of the Behemoths change because of the Kalani/Angel episode?

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I see them as being much bigger now. In my minds eye they move like gorillas on their haunches and knuckles--sort of an Amazing Hulk or The Thing type version of a gorilla.

Wouldn't their teeth have to grow to accommodate their new size?

I thought the stretch marks were from rapid growth. The acne, I dunno, I guess I just thought that was detail to make them more real; but it could be because they have such thick skin their pores had to change. They must have very thick skulls, and rhino type hide.

I can't figure out how they could survive an arrow shot to the eye. Eyes are actually an outgrowth from the brain and so if it has eyes and optic nerves it must have a path to the brain there too.

I wonder if any one form is a a final one or if they will continue to change.

Eviebae,
Read some of the earlier posts and tell me what size you think they are.
Skittles says they can't climb, so I like to think their arms are skinny as hell and can't support their weight.

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Originally Posted by HaveCrowBarWillTravel

Eviebae,
Read some of the earlier posts and tell me what size you think they are.
Skittles says they can't climb, so I like to think their arms are skinny as hell and can't support their weight.

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I don't think they have skinny arms. I just think they are so massive and heavy that they can't pull themselves up. Just like bodybuilders compared to a lean athlete. Athletes tend to be able to be more agile. And maybe skittles is bipolar. Like the dr jekyl and mr hyde thing someone mentioned. But in his case, he's a nasty zombie at one moment, and a friendly scared and somewhat "touched" human. Or maybe, one of the smart ones that Skittles said that were very deadly experimented on him. Because maybe he was dragged away like Datu and fused some of "their" dna in him. Which may be why he has survived, because he may "smell" like they do so they don't bother him. Yeah the normals avoid the behemoths too, so it wouldn't be a stretch that he would attack him. Also, he changed that tire in a matter of minutes, which may suggest that "zombie speed/strength". The bipolar thing may be why he avoids being in a tower with large groups of people. Because he knows what happened before to his friends. Just theories...who knows?

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Originally Posted by HaveCrowBarWillTravel

Eviebae,
Read some of the earlier posts and tell me what size you think they are.

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I don't have a clear idea. A couple of times--like when he burst up onto the roof or at the power station, I saw him as huge--like 3 stories (I pretty much visualized a cut scene from a nonspecific computer game playing in my head), but when I think of him running through the building, more like 10 feet.

I think they must be very heavy because if all their bones are super thick/dense like their skull, they probably weigh a lot. I know body builders can develop their muscles to the point where they lose flexibility so I see their thick hide and over developed muscles contributing to their limitations. Like a mix between a rhino and a gorilla.

I imagined the behemoths kind of like the cave troll in "the fellowship of the rings" huge, strong, dumb, primal and grew to their sizes so fast (stretch marks) that their body wasn't really able to be but so agile at this stage of their evolution. If anyone puts on a lot of weight fast, lets see them do a pull up. Plus you hear them as they are walking. That is not the noise of an 8ft man 12-15ft minimum from the sound of their movement. Sounds more like the size of an elephant tbh. I'm more curious about how the regular zombies look like. Are they clothed? Do they look like the zombies in the movie "I Am Legend" where they are kind of a monochromatic gray. Since they are more nocturnal in nature, would that mean that they would be kind of pale/gray. I'm sure KC wants us to use our imagination, and not give too much details which is the beauty of a radio drama. But once you kind of get a feel of what the regulars look like, you can kind of base the other ones off of that blank template. Behemoths would be a larger, more gargantuan "zombie template". As would the Jumpers would have some added muscle to their legs for those long leaps, mostly in the calf region. While the runners would have very strong thigh muscles. I think i may work on some sketches of what i think they look like and post them in a new thread.

This is what I believe the Behemoth's look like along with a rough sketch of the size charts of the different zombies. This is a rough sketch and drawing that took me about 3 min in paint to make. If anyone has thoughts about this sketch feel free to respond. Negative and positive feedback is welcome. I'm not saying these are what they look like , just my imaginations interpretation of them. If you have any drawing ideas, feel free to post them. I'd love to have feedback on this. Click on the picture for a larger image----->Attachment 368

Also, here is another thought. Maybe the pimples on the behemoth's body are remnants of bulletholes that didn't quite penetrate the skin, but pussed up as a reaction to the extreme impact the skin took from it. Just another thought. I was thinking about this as I was drawing a rough sketch from my other post. http://zombiepodcast.com/forum/showt...bie-Size-Chart

There's my sub-par drawing skills.

I love it^^^^ Gotta love creativity. Can't wait to see more.

You know, Ra1th, that kinda reminds me of what I always viewed the Behemoth's as. I always pictured them similar to the "Mega Hyde" in the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. You know, that guy that drinks a whole vat of Jekyll's formula and turns into a gigantic red freak? That's kinda how I pictured them, just less agile.

Another Picture of a Jumper on the roof of a burning building. Notice how large his calves are.
I'm going to keep creating art from the show here. Keep checking in and post your pictures too. Click picture to enlarge --->Attachment 370

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Originally Posted by JesseG

Another Picture of a Jumper on the roof of a burning building. Notice how large his calves are.
I'm going to keep creating art from the show here. Keep checking in and post your pictures too. Click picture to enlarge --->Attachment 370

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I figured jumpers would be really skinny with really long legs to jump farther and higher.

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Originally Posted by Craneses

I figured jumpers would be really skinny with really long legs to jump farther and higher.

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Not a bad thought. Come to think of it maybe they were taller, more lean. I'm sure its not a bad idea.

For some reason I always picture them as a mix between Tanks and Boomers from Left 4 Dead. Since they can't run fast, I imagine that they're fat but strong.

I put this one in the fanart section. Its a portrayal of the zombie in the pinstripe suit, aka Ink. Click pic to enlarge--->

Wasnt ink in a grey pinstripe cos thats whats on the podcast artwork

idk, i'll check it out

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Originally Posted by fraggot

For some reason I always picture them as a mix between Tanks and Boomers from Left 4 Dead. Since they can't run fast, I imagine that they're fat but strong.

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I don't imagine any fat, just muscles with muscles on top of muscles, and a thick reddish brown rhino hide.

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Originally Posted by Private Parts

Wasnt ink in a grey pinstripe cos thats whats on the podcast artwork

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I updated his suit to be grey instead of the white/black that he was currently wearing.
Click to enlarge ----->Attachment 377

Cool shame its to late to enter wnd fan art comp :(

Great pic, Just how I imagined the Bethemoth possibly a bit larger but good pic.

Remember that the Behemoth's aren't slim or short enough to fit through a normal door frame. They're large enough to knock out walls, not just putting a hole in a wall. Even a tall but muscular body can stoop to go through a door frame. Angel and Kalani's tactics wouldn't have worked on anything but something really huge.
Skittles also said that they can't climb. Anything muscular with normal or abnormally long arms would be able to climb with ease.

I think it's best to bring this to the Wiki.

Update their respective pages, if necessary add a heading called 'Theories', 'Unconfirmed' or something along those lines, and use the discussion pages if there are disagreements or different interpretation.
That's the best way to keep track all the zombie-specific information.

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Originally Posted by HaveCrowBarWillTravel

Anything muscular with normal or abnormally long arms would be able to climb with ease.

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But body builders can lose the ability to move in certain ways simply because of the bulk, and the thick skull/skeleton could have changed the way they are able to move. I just see them as bigger in the chest and upper body, but big all over.

Eviebae,

Body builders range of movement is limited do to the extra mass, but they can move like anyone else. Stoop, jump, climb, plus more muscles allows you to handle any extra mass. Example I think of is an obese person vs someone in shape. An obese person doesn't have the strength to do too much with their mass. Obviously the behemoths can get up and move around pretty good, but they wouldn't have trouble climbing anything unless it was due to them being super, super dense. My 2 cents anyway.

Do you guys think that tattooed one is a lead to a bigger plot?
I think that the tattooed one isnt actually not the most powerful zombie
since he attacks the survivors by himself. i mean think about, if you were the leader of all
the zombies and have thousands of zombies to your disposal, you wouldnt really need to
go all commando on the tower. Also if the tattooed one is trying to kill all the survivors,
then why bother with these towers when theres probably larger quantities of survivors
elsewhere, like the colony.

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Originally Posted by icepatrol

Do you guys think that tattooed one is a lead to a bigger plot?
I think that the tattooed one isnt actually not the most powerful zombie
since he attacks the survivors by himself. i mean think about, if you were the leader of all
the zombies and have thousands of zombies to your disposal, you wouldnt really need to
go all commando on the tower. Also if the tattooed one is trying to kill all the survivors,
then why bother with these towers when theres probably larger quantities of survivors
elsewhere, like the colony.

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There's a possibility that we've met two super smart zombies. There's the one in the arena that killed Samantha, and it could be a separate one that killed Paul in the Tower. All we truly know is there are some superly smart zombies running around L.A. right around now, but it's unclear as to exactly how many there are.

Without actually being able to see what the really smart zombies we've encountered it's hard to know who is who. As for the Tattooed Zombie/The One With the Markings/Ink/It's Paul becoming a bigger storyline: I think it's guaranteed. They are the gatekeepers to the secret to the outbreak and the very nature of the of this particular zombie apocalypse.

My thinking on these are based on they came from real people. Burt mentioned the smarted you are in life the smarter you are in the undead life. Based on the assumption all these zombies came from real people, here are my theories as to where some of these originated from.

Behemoths - garillas maybe? Or just mutated regulars
Howlers* - regulars that a little more intelligent than the average. Learned they could
communicate like animals by using sounds.
Intelligent ones - genius level people or highly intelligent people. The colored one strikes me as a sociopathic person prior to being changed.
Jumpers - athletes such as basketball players and the such
Little ones - babies and small children
Runners - track runners and the such
Standard zombies - average people
Swimming ones - regulars who learned they could swim

Attachment 442Here's the closet picture i've found to how I visualize the Behemoths.
add about 3 more feet in height and width and bam!

I think the swimmers would have really slimy skin with web between their arms and their side and in between their fingers/toes.

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Originally Posted by Kc

Ink's howl can be different... listen closely to Chapter 13 for more specifics.

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After this post I actually started thinking about something. I saw the name Ink, and knew I heard it somewhere. Found in on Chapter 2-3 at about minute 20. Very clever hiding it there to be honest with you. If you were actually hiding it.

I always pictured the Jumpers to have legs evolved like the aliens in The Arrival. Knees that bend backwards to ours to give them more leaping leverage.

Come on guys your missing something the Boemeths cant reach the top of a dump truck this taking place in a city area it cant be a big dump truck that you see in a rock quarry it has to be a smaller one you see hauling dirt and gravel around the cities these cant be more than ten feet tall or they wouldnt fit under overpasses and street lights so that cant make them taller than 7 or 8 feet i could see them as being very big and muscular but not so much tall.

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Originally Posted by KyDead

Come on guys your missing something the Boemeths cant reach the top of a dump truck this taking place in a city area it cant be a big dump truck that you see in a rock quarry it has to be a smaller one you see hauling dirt and gravel around the cities these cant be more than ten feet tall or they wouldnt fit under overpasses and street lights so that cant make them taller than 7 or 8 feet i could see them as being very big and muscular but not so much tall.

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Standard Minimum Height for overpasses in urban areas is 16' for new structures. Other structures can be varying heights if they were built before a certain time, but they have to be clearly marked and have alternate routes available. So a taller dump truck can be used in an urban area. I see dump trucks and semis in Manhattan all the time that are the standard 13.5 feet tall. The only restriction they have is they have to take certain tunnels and bridges in and out of the city and for traffic reasons they can't go certain places inside Manhattan.

If we go on the understanding that they can't climb, we can reason there is something "wrong" with their arms and they can't support their weight while climbing. That could make a Behemoth 10 feet tall, with only 2 foot long arms just barely capable (or not capable at all) of reaching the top of the tallest truck cabins.

I realize these are all assumptions. But there are two popular theories as to how Behemoths came to be which are 1. A gigantic growth spurt when infected or 2. They are built in some manner. If the growth spurt happens to be the case, it may not affect the arms and they don't grow in relation to the rest of the body. If they are built, it might have been a fail safe for the creator to give them a slight advantage if they are trying to run away from a Behemoth gone berserk.

Here's my question. How do humans become a behemoth for example from just a bite? Lets say a regular human gets infected by a behemoth. How does this standard human become a "10-15 feet, skinny arms and fat'ish/blubbery?"

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Originally Posted by forty7nations

Here's my question. How do humans become a behemoth for example from just a bite? Lets say a regular human gets infected by a behemoth. How does this standard human become a "10-15 feet, skinny arms and fat'ish/blubbery?"

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That is the big debate. If we knew how that happened, we would have a better understanding of what the nature of this outbreak is. But there are disorders that cause humans to grow extremely large (See: Andre The Giant). So perhaps whatever is causing the outbreak alters the genetic coding of the victim.

Or consider this. the mounds of flesh in the arena, the number of behemoths found there when they were escaping. I reckon they are MADE somehow. Sounds a bit out there but still.

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Originally Posted by nikvoodoo

That is the big debate. If we knew how that happened, we would have a better understanding of what the nature of this outbreak is. But there are disorders that cause humans to grow extremely large (See: Andre The Giant). So perhaps whatever is causing the outbreak alters the genetic coding of the victim.

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You think Andre the Giant. I think body builder. They already have a freakishly large muscle mass; if their body gets slightly changed, all of that muscle mass could shift and pull their body in all kinds of different ways.

Behemoths are my favorite, but I've struggled a lot to visualize them. At the very first encounter, I imagined them as 20 feet tall, mutated, naked monsters, on all fours. (That was a stretch) But now, I feel they are like zombified hulks. Similar to the tanks in Left 4 Dead that you mentioned. OK.
FOOD FOR THOUGHT, Based on all of your great comments here.
1) I think the Zits are a clue. Those of you that thought steroids are on the right track. What if the Z-germ harnesses and overloads the testosterone and other hormones in the body. Causing rapid muscle growth (stretch marks) and other side effects like zits that come with it.
2)What if they can actually grow bigger like the Hulk? What happens if there's bigger ones down the road?
[ 3)Your opinions - Is there a humongous Queen Zombie? Don't forget they are structured socially like insects...