[Spoilers All LD] WA Fancast Topic: Post what people should listen for on 2nd listens

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Originally Posted by Kat E

Yup. I'll even try to do you one better. It also makes you wonder why so many assassins and serial killers go by three names. Because Colby Clayton Lemaster, like they, KILLED IT!!!

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Originally Posted by Kat E

Thanks. I bow to you Witch Doctor and your selections. In this particular instance you KNEW it meant something...cuz that's how KC appears to like to roll...then BOOM goes the dynamite.

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Yep, ha haaa! I'm sooooo used to it now. When it comes to the 'who', 'what', 'when' and 'where', sometimes I do pretty good. But when it comes the 'why', 'how' and predictions.... KC ALWAYS gets me. EVERY. FRICKEN. TIME. Which is good because a predictable story would be boring. I swear that I've nailed something right on the nose hundreds of times, only for KC to re-write a chapter's ending and call back the actors to re-record. :squint:

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Originally Posted by Kat E

Here's another one that crosses over to the backstabbing, prince of pustules Simeon and whether he a bad guy? The scene where he's working on mapping the cameras and overhears the conversation between Dani and Gavin about "trust" issues with the inmates. Huge foreshadow of what's to come!! Darn it. Obviously it bothered him a lot or he wouldn't have interjected it into his interview with CJ in the way he did--he's rationalizing future behavior though he never intends to tell CJ the truth. Begs the question: Do you think the filthy, troglodyte Simeon is just a selfish, dysfunctional, opportunistic idiot or a cold-blooded, malevolent, heartless killer? The next question obviously being: If douche-bag-boy had NEVER overheard the guards' conversation, would the choices the cretinous oaf made later have remained the same?

One of my favorite lines is by Chuck about Fredo: "He's not sexist, just selfish." It's a similar dichotomy I get from the biggest freakin, lowlife, loser Simeon. Pretty much nothing nor no one is black and white, except for the colors themselves. [I still should have asked to knee-cap him/the-little-shit when I had the chance.]

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I'm beginning to think you're not all that fond of Simeon. :)

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Originally Posted by KPCoyote

Simeon refuses to take accountability for what he does. Even when cornered he tries to pass it off as ancient history. It shouldn't matter as far as he is concerns. He is a step before a serial killer, someone who knows and enjoys killing. He is scum.

His character was well played and the acting was top shelf. Only with that level of acting skill would I have these strong feelings towards the character. A applaud Colby Clayton Lemaster for his art.

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He comes off as full blown psychopath, bordering on sociopath. I began to question his crime story and wonder even further if he was actually a serial killer and only was caught for those 2 murders. When that wasn't addressed I felt a little unsatisfied on that front. Probably more my fault for starting to "expect" something from the story instead of just listening. (I'll probably quote this paragraph verbatim when we record so feel free to skip 15 seconds when I start :) )

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Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor

Yep, ha haaa! I'm sooooo used to it now. When it comes to the 'who', 'what', 'when' and 'where', sometimes I do pretty good. But when it comes the 'why', 'how' and predictions.... KC ALWAYS gets me. EVERY. FRICKEN. TIME. Which is good because a predictable story would be boring. I swear that I've nailed something right on the nose hundreds of times, only for KC to re-write a chapter's ending and call back the actors to re-record. :squint:

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This has all but been confirmed by the actors, and they blame you for the extra work Witch Doctor! :) (Kidding, for the lurkers who are reading)

Theories right or wrong, it is part of what makes this whole community great. I'm just glad that there is a place to decompress after listening.

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Originally Posted by MickGinger

I'm beginning to think you're not all that fond of Simeon. :)

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It's not that I'm not fond of that despicable dog turd, Simeon. He's such an enigma. He's not quite a psychopath, because he's just not smart enough. He's more an opportunistic sociopath, because he is able to form bonds with a small group and takes advantage of situations as they are presented. But then sociopaths typically come off to others as being visibly disturbed individuals, and that dirt bag Simeon presents the quieter reserve of a psychopath. Therefore, this puts the little troll into more of an enigma status for me.

If push came to shove, I'd say the lying little creep Simeon is a paranoid sociopath. [And yes, I'll keep up with the expletives relating to the pernicious little monster Simeon until I run out] The selfish dolt saves Mark in Episode 3, yet allows himself to get so weirded out by the Dani and Gavin conversation I've mentioned before, to the degree that the numbskull perceives Gavin as a threat. I'm so back-and-forth on the demonic munchkin. :D

KC really outdid himself when he created such a stealthy antagonist. Lockdown would not have been the same without the gross little guy with delusions of grandeur. Even with that said there's still a part of me that was on the edge of my seat wishing the maniac would have kept it together and risen above his obviously damaged beginnings. But again, KC walked us down the pretty path and led us merrily along...until the ax fell. Nicely cleaved Sir. Nicely cleaved.

I think that I can almost imagine KC grinning through all of that.

I wonder how long will it take her to get to the Dr. Smith insults. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfh-YY465HA

Was Jodi's suggestion about Ink being a woman who underwent chemotherapy a hint about his medical condition? Of course she didn't know, since she was just offering reasons that the person standing outside the solitary inmate's cell might be woman. It is chapter 5 when they are looking at the security camera feed and discover someone, who is later to be revealed as Ink, looking into one of the cells. I understand and appreciate that she is a very strong woman character, and that she wants to remind the others that women are as capable of anything as men. However, her insistence for open mindedness always struck me as oddly placed and inappropriately timed. It culminated with her suggestion that the person could be bald due to cancer treatment, which we learned at the end that Ink had.

Side note: Does Ink continue to shave his hair?

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Originally Posted by KPCoyote

Thank you KC.
Funk just was not going to follow directions. He saw the sign and it opened up his eyes. He saw the sign.

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Something occurred to me that I completely over looked. Tonya suggested that Ink created the Little Ones because the Behemoths were not very controllable. Again, my hat's off to you, sir.

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Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor

Something occurred to me that I completely over looked. Tonya suggested that Ink created the Little Ones because the Behemoths were not very controllable. Again, my hat's off to you, sir.

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Thank you. I think Austin/Arrowface was kept in control by giving him people to "play" with in the arena. Otherwise I don't think that Ink would have been able to keep him in check.

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Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor

One part that is worth re-listening to is the "Breakfast Club" moment the inmates are having in Chapter 4 after they decide to wait for the power to shut off. Everyone talks about what got them placed behind bars, goaded on by Jeremy who refuses to participate. He doesn't object to Jodi telling the others what his file says. He even says that he is eager to hear what is in it too. This piece doesn't point to anything concrete in the story, but it does support Jeremy's claim that he is in the jail to kill Simeon.

My personal thoughts are that Jeremy infiltrated the jail and assumed a false identity or someone's else identity. He's says that he doesn't trust the others, but I believe the real reason he doesn't talk about his crime is that he doesn't really know why is 'cover' is in jail.

Also, listen to the beginning when Simeon narrates about entering T-Block. A guard can be heard bringing Jeremy's transfer papers. Again, nothing concrete, other than to single out Jeremy as an inmate in transit. Keep in mind that he was in T-Block for a couple of hours before Jeremy, but KC felt it important to mention him as someone with a special status (as a trustee) mixed in with the inmates who're going Bluestacks Kodi Lucky Patcher up-state.

All of this points to 'Jeremy's' revelation that he somehow arranged to be on the bus accompanying Simeon, in order to kill him. His false ID is suggested by him questioning Simeon, asking, "Who's Jeremy?"

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i want to ask the same question