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Yes, but I think it would be a lot better if Randy and Skittles were hanging out somewhere drinking Mojitos or something....... and Skittles was just like "You know Randy...... I think I'm gonna call you Handy Randy since your so good at fixing stuff........."Quote:
Originally Posted by scbubba
Great episode! It got me back to the forum. Finally we know what happened in the waterworks and how Michael's leg got mashed up. And finally some closure on this Randy issue.
The waterworks seems like a defining moment in Michael's leadership ability. From what I remember, that's when the bad decisions started. This might be the turning point for him. Now that he's confided in Datu, new info and new ideas might surface, restoring his confidence.
When Datu was describing the attack to Michael, we heard Randy say something. I listened a few times and I'm pretty sure I heard "look out". So I put my tinfoil hat on, and look what I found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lookout..._Force_Station
Lookout Mountain Air Force Station (LMAFS) is a Formerly Used Defense Site used as a private residence on Wonderland Avenue, Los Angeles, California. The USAF military installation produced motion pictures and still photographs for the United States Department of Defense and Atomic Energy Commission from 1947-1969.[2] In 2011, the property was put up for sale for over $6 million (USD).[3] When it was placed up for sale in 2011, the residence was a 50 thousand square foot, eight bedroom building on a 1.5 acre property.[4]
The 100,000 sq ft (9,300 m2)[5] facility was built on 2 acres (8,100 m2) in 1941 as a World War II air defense center to coordinate radar installations.[citation needed] The studio was established in 1947 and its purpose kept secret. The studio consisted of a complete stage, 2 screening rooms, a helicopter landing pad, a bomb shelter and 17 climate controlled film vaults as well as two underground parking garages.
So my Little theory wasn't so far off after all... Randy and Mikey being so happy to see each other Again that they started dancing, which somehow went kinda wrong so Randy accidentally broke Mike's arm. Only part that turned out not to be true was the dancing one I guess.
BTW, he can't be Skittles, Bob's not listed in the credits for this episode. I thought that too, though, he kinda sounds like him. Anyway, he's an awesome guy! I'd love more flashbacks with human Randy.
Wow, here I am thinking I'm on the ball, ready to download the new episode the moment it comes out, and its been out for 7 hours. Time to play catch-up!
So we finally get the Randy story. All in all the story turned out how I expected: Michael finds Randy in the waterworks, they scramble to get out, Randy gets chomped and Michael breaks his arm in a door while trying to reach out. I did not expect Randy and Michael to know each other from before the outbreak. That was interesting but We're Alive is a small world after all.
What's sticking in my mind now is: what is the significance of Randy being the one to bite Datu? I think that has to serve some purpose apart from getting Michael to tell his story.
I'll admit, I was skeptical at first, but I'm starting to buy into the idea that Randy is The Starscream to Ink. If Randy has just enough of his humanity left to want to fight against what he's been turned into then maybe he could study whatever Ink is doing to look for a way out. And since he left Datu after biting him, maybe Randy will end up being the one who both infects and saves Datu.
Think because he is a zombie, all zombie characters have a section for Skittles' nickname, such as smart ones, fast ones, etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Gnex
Edit: Just realised its been answered already, woops!
Hahaha.....just thought about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gnex
Hey Michael...... we are going out of town for the weekend and wanted to know if you would watch the house for us???
Sure thing!!! But First let me tell you a little tale about the last time I watched someone's house...... Everything was going great and then the whole place burned to the ground...... But yeah, No problem... Have a great trip!!!
Not as much traffic on this episodes thread. I mean come on people you finally have the answer to "Who is Randy?"
Now I've only listened to the episode once, at work, so I may be missing a few things I would usually catch. I am guessing Randy has discovered a way to keep people from turning, or perhaps that his bites don't turn people, maybe if you bite them in a certain spot (both Tanya and Datu in the arm right?), when the moon is full, between the hours of 1800-2300, with a 3-7mph wind gust from the west or something.
I am also going to guess that Randy is the one who got to Tanya before we found her. Maybe he knew who she was from before the outbreak, he seemed to be excited over hearing about Saul. They could have been ol chums.
He appears to be marking his targets. My guess is so that other biters don't attack them, or he is giving them a strain of his blood since he is clearly different. Better Randy then a mindless Z tearing them to pieces.
Now just need to figure what he's selecting these people for. What does he have in mind? Ultimate payback for Michael not shooting him ? Ha?
It's interesting that Randy was bitten by a regular one - it doesn't take a smart one to make a smart one, just need that one to already be smart, apparently. That info doesn't exactly help us to know what is going on with Datu.
However, what I think MIGHT be significant: Randy's eyes changed pretty much right away, if I heard that right. And if I recall, a big part of Michael's hesitancy to do anything to Datu was that his eyes were not yet changed. A smart one does not necessarily have to be a slow turner, which I guess I was assuming - their process would be different than normals'. Perhaps Datu will have the same kind of immunity as Tanya and Saul have shown?
Thinking about the eyes . . . it's also interesting that despite the eyes already turning, Randy was still able to talk and think and be in control of himself. It makes me wonder: What is the point of "Zombieness"? What are those symptoms of the moment when the person ends and the zombie begins - the transition that Datu is fearing? Tanya may have found that moment in the blood with the K18 levels, are there other physical absolute indicators . . . And will Michael be able to interpret those signs correctly in order to do right by Datu (if) when the time comes? (Oh, I hope he doesn't get trigger-happy to make up for his past mistake)
Now that we know, we don't have anything to theorise about......it's just there in front of us...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bullethead
I'm afraid, it was a slow turner that the colony captured, not Randy, that bit Tanya.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bullethead
Wasn't sure if that was confirmed or not. Tanya likes to leave out details at her discretion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooer
Nope, pretty sure it was confirmed, due to the fact that they put down the partly-turned slow turner inside of the colony. Meaning (unfortunately) it wasn't RandyQuote:
Originally Posted by Bullethead
AWESOME question - as cliche as it sounds: do zombies have a finer sense of other peoples' brains? Can they sense someone who is going to be able to be a "smart one" or a slow turner?Quote:
Originally Posted by LiamKerrington
Liam, you got some great thoughts there, and if the smart zombies are all on the same team as Ink, your first question fits in with some of the strategic maneuvers we've seen from the smart ones (see the slow turner up at the Ft. Irwin). I'll throw out a maybe something else, though:Quote:
Originally Posted by LiamKerrington
Is it possible that Randy, with his ability to maintain certain human capabilities (decision-making, "reading," tool use (the list), speech), actually has some memory of what it's like to be human and his process of changing and took pity on Datu? Offered Datu the chance that he never got - to put an end to it before turning into a zombie? There's clearly something very different about Randy and Ink verses the tattooed, numbered ones (who seem like they were artificially experimented with, turning them into what they are). It's a bit :tinfoil:, but that's how we get through the week, isn't it?
Yes, my Starscream theory :excited:Quote:
Originally Posted by HardKor
Hell, yeah. Starscream ... I like this picture.
And, guys and girls, I happened to decide it would be time for a new poll:
http://www.zombiepodcast.com/forum/s...n-Will-Michael
Enjoy it!
Best wishes!
Liam
I'm beginning to wonder if Randy said "Leave!" or if he might have said (let me get my :tinfoil: on just right now) "Live!"Quote:
Originally Posted by LiamKerrington
Randy gives the "Bite of Life" to Datu because he (Randy) has figured out that something in his body can be used to inoculate a person against zombie cooties....
I may or may not be having an off day today..... :squint:
I think Datu is delusional.............. 1 minute he is on deaths door, next minute he almost sounds like someone just told him a joke, then the next minute he can't remember anything, then all of a sudden he remembers everything...............
I think Datu is going to be fine.... He is just in shock and doesn't know how to handle it.......
Next Episode after having his blood taken every 2 hours, Tanya is going to tell us all that Datu's numbers are actually going backwards...... and then they start trying to figure out why!!!! :squint:
The way I am hearing it..... it sounds like this.......Quote:
Originally Posted by scbubba
The other Zombies are closing in on Datu.
Randy says "Mine"
Then Sounds like Datu is Attacked(Bitten) Maybe Randy pulls him away from another Zombie at this point????
Then Randy tells the other Zombies to "Go"
Then Sounds like Datu gets Attacked(Bitten) again???
Then Randy says "Leave" and runs off. (Seems like he is talking to himself in this one, maybe forcing his zombie brain to actually leave Datu???)
I can't really figure out the 2 "attacks/bites"..... Seems like Datu yells out, Randy says "Go", then Datu yells out Again.....????
The Second yell sounds much worse so I am guessing that is the Bite...... but what is the first???
Hopefully...would be funny if it happened, but I doubt it *sigh*Quote:
Originally Posted by Gnex
Finally we get the Randy Story..
Now we can focus on something else.
That's what she said.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7oddisdead
I'm guessing that a Skittles' Nickname is how Skittles described the special zombies e.g. Little One, Behemoths, Super Fasties and Brains. Whoever edited Randy's wiki page may have assumed that he was his own class of special zombie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gnex
That, and a long with the fact it was similar too last episode, there isn't much analysis of stuff to talk about, like the chemicals/Ink's jail sentancing/Cowen etc. But, it's good we finally got the story on how 1)How Michael's arm was broken and 2) how Randy is known.Quote:
Originally Posted by LiamKerrington
Personally, i like how that they knew Randy before the events that occurred after, instead of them just meeting at the water station for the first time, with the same result (as i saw those theories too)
What juicy ep! Human Randy seemed like a cool guy. I didn't expect to have any emotional connection hearing him turn and abandoned, but I really felt bad. Props to the voice actor.
So, Michael indirectly killed Datu.
My theory is that Z Randy may have a personal vendetta against Michael and wants him to finally kill someone close to him. Randy did mention seeing them from the waterworks, so maybe he saw Datu and Z Randy recognized him. Datu also asked Z Randy to finish him off, just like he did to Michael.
Maybe Z Randy is smart enough to help the humans. Maybe he grabbed Tanya because he somehow saw she was medical. He also had the chemical bottle, giving Michael clues.
Whatever it may be Z Randy has some kind of memory of his human life.
Alrighty then!
first of all, I'm not sure how I feel about Randy being datus attacker. On the one hand, that only makes sense in the story if Randy is there for a specific purpose, be that nefarious or well intended. On the other hand, lets think of the ground hes had to cover to get from the location Michael & co. Saw him last to going down to the colony. Not to mention the fact that whatever the follistatin errand was, it was connected to a job for ink. the way I see it has not changed from last episode. However KC handles this I'm interested to see, but I have my reservations. I know its a "small world" but it could get tooooo small.
its been mentioned already, but I tend to agree with the idea of Randy being a catalyst for an end. I have to wonder, if we have saul/tanya...with seeming immunity, why could the other side not have one in the group with non-transferable infection? Also, we know that bill has experimented with growth hormones, follistatin, etc, could he not have experimented with Randy to give him that? Just because bill is seemingly evil does not mean his ends are not magnanimous.
I dunno, I'm semi confused at this point. Typing on my phone sucks....more later
We have another time stamp. Michael describes the events of the Water Works as being about a month and a half from the, May 8th, beginning of the outbreak. Also, Randy has no idea just how long he was in the water works.
Soooooo good. We have a quest. I told her (edited to add: "she" is my visiting sister) it would be intense and she may not like to hear it. She said she wouldn't mind listening to it, but then preceded to chat with my husband...sacrilege! I ended up putting on the headphones to spare me!
How many zomboids attacked Datu et al and how do we know? I had thought just one. I thought it attacked Glen and devoured him. Then attacked Datu (just a bit), before turning on Jay. After Jay ran out of bullets, it bit him and then turned back to Datu. Then the zomboid left and Jay turned. Datu was hanging off of Jay begging him to kill him and then when he didn't he shot Jay with the air gun. Is that what happened?
We've only seen Randy with a group of zomboids once, right? I can't tell if he's good or bad (in relative terms) but it seems like he might be a renegade of some sort. Maybe he'd just like to rule in hell than serve in Inks master plan.
Huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eviebae
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Originally Posted by Eviebae
He was with the group that snatched Tanya.
He was seen outside the Colony by Victor, but was joined later by others. (We don't her anything about his involvement in the attack, itself, though.)
Not sure if you can count the zombies that jumped from the alley to attack Puck as part of a group with him.
It is interesting to note that he was in the presence of an Inkling when Datu was attacked. It seems a bit too difficult for me to justify Randy being a rogue at this point. What do you think?
Are you suggesting that Randy may be leading the Little Ones into situations where they would be killed by the humans?
Nnnaaaawwwww.....why would I say something like that???
:hsugh:
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Originally Posted by REZombie
Looks like i was right on the money with the bold part! :D
Wow....need to listen a bit more to process, lol...
Unit- wherever you are you are a genius and I am glad I jumped on your tinfoil hat theory bandwagon last week!! I even told the We're Alive fan cast guys on their Facebook page before I listened to this week!! I bet they mention how smert you are!!!
It was only the recorded episode of Angel's voice, wasn't new recording unfortunately...
As for the group that attacked Datu Glenn and Jay, i believe it was Randy, a Little one, and a regular, with the last two being shot down. I'm assuming the one that i heard screaming in the distance at 17:39 on 40-3 was Randy, but not sure. Could of been another Little one in the vicinity of the area....