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Pegs comment about how long she spent in Boulder vs how long she spent with Michael got me thinking about the group dynamics. I feel like her comment about the length of time was meant to bring this back into focus for us listeners since it was very easy for us to gloss over the time span since it passed in mere moments for us.
Our Heroes (Towerites) were together through some intense times for the 3 months that Witch_Doctor mentions.
Victor, Tanya, and Hope only spent about a couple of weeks with the crew but spent almost 3 months in the Colony together.
Then we have the big splits.
Michael, Riley, Tanya, and the Fort Irwin soldiers (mainly Puck and Carl) spent 4.5 months together in Fort Irwin.
Saul, Victor, and CJ spent the majority of the 4.5 months together in LA.
Pegs, Kelly, Datu, and Hope spent 4.5 months together in Boulder.
Lizzie and Burt were kept separated from all the rest of the crew for the 4.5 month span at the Colony.
So, how does that reset the relationships and loyalties, I wonder? Does Saul have a grudge against Michael and Co for leaving them behind? Do Saul and Victor have a stronger tie to CJ than Michael? How do Lizzie and Burt feel about everyone else (other than Saul of course)? Do they feel abandoned?
If these (or other) pressures strain the group to near breaking, who or what will draw them back together? Keeps bringing the meaning of "Balance of Power" back into my mind. Will be interesting to see how chapter 37 finishes up....
The main base at Fort Irwin is gone, but that's only a small part of the base complex. The Box, the training area that lies north of the base, is almost the size of Rhode Island. In my day there were several permanent training, command and logistics sits in The Box; the one I worked at was 60 miles and 3 mountain ranges away from the base, easily safe from the nuclear blast. We know there was a basic training base in The Box, there might be survivors from the checkpoints, maybe even stragglers from Boulder.
I doubt the story will take us back to Fort Irwin, but it could be worth the trip. If Michael could rescue a hundred armed survivors from Fort Irwin that could really impact the "balance of power" at the Colony.
But if they survived then the New Little Ones may have also survived. Why take a change of bring one of them back especially since we don't know if there are jumpers among them. Oddly enough we haven't seen a jumper since the first tower attack.
I don't think the chances of finding supplies or survivors would be worth the fuel expenditure of the trip. I think at least part of the survivors will be staying in the colony, since Datu is busy working his mechanical voodoo to get the place back up to snuff. If Michael ends up in any sort of romantic relationship again, I think it would be with Riley. They are both going to be grieving over Angel, and they are already close, so it wouldn't be much of a stretch.
Probably doesn't fit the story narrative at this point. I expect that Michael's "soldiers" will get their additional weapons from the "Long Beach Navy Base" that the LA Recon Team checked out back in Chapter 30.
With bolder and Irwin nuked, Michael would be well served to collect or at a minimum contact those off site. Each one has a story that is important to the WA franchise even though there isn't room in this story arc. I think it would be worth a minute or two of narration to lay out some lose ends. I would love something like Michael talking to Puck about the current story and Muldoon talking to another team in the background.
With Hope lurking around the Hospital there might be a chance that she and CJ make the connection that they shared the same tower. CJ will obviously want to know how she got there. Sean's name will come up, along with the revelation from either Hope or Tanya or Michael that Sean was killed by a set-up by Gate Keeper instead of the Mallers. BOOM! Another skeleton falls out of Victor's closet.
AND, I'm making the call again, you ready? James is the slow turner. Hope says that he died of some infection (yeah, right), and their arrival coincides with the time Tanya was bitten.
Back to the Victor's Secrets Catalogue, I doubt that EVERYBODY will come down on him as secret-hoarding schmuck because others are in on his secrets too.
Hmmm, CJ might not recognize Hope with the bandages on her face and Hope might not have figured out that the screaming one-legged woman is the leader from Dunbar. That would be a cool reveal.
Like the idea of that being how CJ learns about Sean and perhaps moving CJ into an anti-Victor camp.
James is the slow turner??? !!! Brilliant !!! Good deduction, WD. REP coming your way (after I spread some around....)
I suspect that there may be some sort of self-imposed communication silence across the US, possibly globally. This would serve to contain people from heavily infected areas who may try to migrate to safer locations thus increasing the risk of spreading the outbreak. If everyone thinks that EVERYWHERE is doomed then there won't be droves of people all converging into a single safe zone. Of course, I have no idea how such a radio silence would work (nuke the ionosphere? but sat phones work.)
Evidence: Kimmet says in Chapter 34 part 1 17:00, "There was a time in the beginning of all this when we lost entire cities. So before we lost contact with other bases, it was decided that we would have something in place; incase a position got over-run."
So the decision to place the nuke fail-safes in place was made BEFORE the loss of communications. Kimmet wasn't satisfied with just making a stand, he eradicated the last known safe zone. If everyone was doomed then why nuke the post? The best reason that I can think of is to spare everyone the impending death by cannibal. But, I think that there is more to Kimmet's BIG PICTURE than what he leads on.
I'm gonna take a guess that Glenn ends up filling that roll. He seems pretty respected and he certainly had a lot to say about the situation to Victor when they met up at the school. I don't know if he's got it in him to be the "leader" of the colonists, but I think he serves well as the "voice" of the colonists.
Episode #56 is listed as available on the We're Alive site. I'm starting to stream it now.
Just showed up as DLing on iPad...
Episode is out now! :)
This has come up before on several other threads so I thought everyone was much in agreement about this even if Tanya never said it. Remember Marcus didn't want Hope around and the girl was adjusting to being blind right after losing her mother so there is no reason for Tanya to tell the kid "oh hey that dude that helped save your life? Yeah he totally turned and tried to gnaw on me FYI. I had to put him down with a cocktail but we learned a lot about the turning process. FOR SCIENCE!"
I like the idea of James being the slow-turner. One of the infuriating things about slow-turners was how random it seemed--one case at The Colony, potentially several coming out of Boulder, speculation surrounding Randy, and a chance that Tanya might have been bitten by one. But with the "James slow-turner" theory, and the possibility that there might have been Little Ones at the fall of The Other Tower, it creates the possibility that the slow-turner phenomena is something that comes from the Little Ones.
Ha ha, I didn't mean to hijack anyone's prediction about James being the slow turner. Sorry if it came across as such. Just bringing a much glossed over, in my opinion, theory to the forefront. I found this brought up about eight times, each one being an 'Ah Ha!' moment by the author. Each time there wasn't much follow up from other forum members; well, nothing like the follow up that leads to many people thinking that Water Works Randy, Dunbar Randy, Tanya-Snatching Randy and Bearded-Brown-Shirt-Pete-attacking zombie are all one in the same.
Good episode, yous guys, and not just because you took my question seriously--though Britt sounded like she might have actually lost sleep thinking about it.
I enjoy listening to yous two, jerks. I don't even really give a shit if you're talking about the show, the board activity, or what you had for lunch. The more time passes and the more you two play off each other with what seems like "a little more ease" with each show. Perhaps you might consider a new segment . . .
Britt Picks. How it works? At the end of each chapter, Britt picks her favourite line or scene from that chapter. Doesn't have to be the episode in question, but the chapter as a whole. But don't just tell us what it was. Tell us WHY!
Nik-picking. How it works? At the end of each chapter, Nik weighs in on that one line or moment from the chapter that makes him go "Seriously . . . what . . . the . . . Eff" and what HE would have done instead.
Just a thought . . . some shit I'd love to hear--and a good way to pad the episode length a tad now that you've dropped the recaps. Honestly, I could listen to yous two jerks all day long.
BritNik, I was the forum member to mention that KC said in an interview that there might not be any new characters introduced. It was during the live broadcast of WND 53 at 1:12:00. Nick, you didn't miss hearing it, instead you actually commented to KC with the same response that you gave on the most recent WND. That is, where could you get new people to introduce? KC killed off everyone else (save for the Colonists)
Yeah Yeah Yeah, you guys were probably toasted.
Awww. My post finally got a shout out (the character's hobby one) but no name love =,[ Lol!
Seriously though, good episode! I'm so happy to finally be caught up and understand what you guys are talking about when you go through the forum discussions. Monday feels so far awaaaaaaaaay :D
It would have sounded like this
Nik: "Ah-Leezy . . . Al-Izzy? Aliz--"
Britt: "ALISTAIR?! *cums*"
Nik: "Jesus, Britt . . ."
Britt: What? Whatever. Look Dragon Age is good, don't be a pain in the nuts."
Nik: ". . . ."
Beez: Super Metroid music
Britt: "Don't do anything weird there, Beez."
Nik: "We really need to get some guests on--"
Britt: "Really anyone at all. We can even call my mom and talk to her--"
Nik: "We totally should! Does she listen to the show?"
Britt: "I hope not."
Nik: "I mean't We're Alive."
Britt: "Oh. I don't know. Maybe we can get Pete to come on."
*crickets*
Britt: "Too soon?"
Nik: "I'm doing my best!"
Britt: "Nobody's sayin' any different, champ."
*crickets*
Britt: "Should we just do a recap?"
Nik: "Please, fuck, yes. Just . . . look everyone, we have nothing to talk about so here's a recap of the last 36 chapters."
Britt: "So episode one starts with Michael--"
*simulated explosion*
Now everyone knows one of the shows mainstays is frequently forget who said what and just give up and apologize for taking your idea without proper credit.
As for the live show..... That was forever ago and 4 hours of my life. I barely remember what I did yesterday man...
FYI: 'Litmaster' is properly pronounced as "Your Majesty".
I really like scubibbly beebbop. I might have to change my username.... :)
Of course, then neither Britt nor nik could pronounce it and I just got Britt trained on SCBubba. :cool:
Great show, guys. Like Osiris said before, I could listen to you guys go on about anything....
I think maybe y'all can add a segment to the show where Britt picks a scene from the recent WA episode and does a "One Woman Show" thing to recreate it...
And what about nik? nik is.... nik is great... :)
EvieBae is only pronounced by Tibetan Monks chanting the world-ending sutra upon beads made from the skulls of the unborn children of their enemies. Unless you are Britt, then it's pronounced Eh-va-beh or some such
I was reading it as Scuba like forever, it was actually WND that corrected that for me.
Oh and depending on dialect and regional accents, "Red Shirt" is usually pronounced "Don't Shoot ME!" Though the shortened version of the name is a Wilhelm Scream.