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Originally Posted by ellea
Maybe Hope will become like cyclops in X-Men.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabbage Patch
I thought the same thing when Robbins was talking to Michael!! Or possibly Kelly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Privateer
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Originally Posted by ellea
I thought being a dick made you a dick.Quote:
Originally Posted by awkwardalex
P.S. your signature is cut off, you should annoy Kc until he fixes shit like that.
P.P.S. You're a smart-ass, dick. :love:
We say fucking here.Quote:
Originally Posted by YetAnotherBloodyCheek
Yet I don't have a dick so...by your logic I am not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Osiris
P.S were does it cut off? It looks full to me
:hsugh: Reading comprehnsion. Yours appears to be broken.Quote:
Originally Posted by awkwardalex
P.S. The last line of your sig is cut in half.
I haveto say the sound effects during the blast, (not that they aren't always great) were amazing. I remeber in high school going to the UNLV (University of Nevada, Las Vegas) radiation museum, on a field trip. We got to go in a simulation bunker. Because in my grandma's day- they would test A-Bombs, they would go outside during high school and watch the mushroom cloud.
loved the 100 episode. even though I was hoping for a musical (LOL) I really enjoyed it. now with the site update love it, especially the promo photos of Burt. Lizzy, and Scratch in the gallery. there is more than one thing that was reveled in this episode. Datu, still cant drive, and Hope is like her mother. despite the age difference between Hope and Datu, I think there might be more developing between those two. I think Datu is attracted to bitchy women. LOL
So there's an S-Mart at the rendezvous point for the Boulder survivors, at the Evergreen turn-off at the 70?
Do you think it's the one that Ash Williams, from "The Evil Dead" and "Army of Darkness", works at? Could this be the beginning of a crossover story?
Yes, and if you don't shop smart and shop S-Mart he will use his boomstick on you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabbage PatchSo there's an S-Mart at the Intersection of Interstate 70 and Colorado 74, the Evergreen turn off?
Do you think it's the one that Ash Williams, from "The Evil Dead" and "Army of Darkness", works at?
Her current circumstances match Daredevil much more closely... Making Datu her Elektra?Quote:
Originally Posted by awkwardalex
That was my first thought when I heard S Mart. Fell in love with the show all over again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabbage PatchSo there's an S-Mart at the rendezvous point for the Boulder survivors, at the Evergreen turn-off at the 70?
Do you think it's the one that Ash Williams, from "The Evil Dead" and "Army of Darkness", works at? Could this be the beginning of a crossover story?
New users are registering for the new zombiepodcast.com website. It cross platforms so whomever registers there, registers for the forum as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by UndeadSweeper
Signatures fitting are by a per browser basis. Alex's signature looks fine to me in mine here but everyone's looks screwed up on my work computer
I liked the interaction with Robbins on the smoking deck. Michael sounds a lot more like Angel now than he did in the beginning. Robbins sounded more like younger Michael. It was a very cool, yet odd interaction.
Datu.....there's a reason you were my dark horse for the rat....it's because you're my main man. My man crush grows with each appearance, and doubly today because of the 'tude.
So the geek in me is trying to figure out how the CJ, Victor, Saul time line matches up with the nuclear detonation. I remember the recon of the colony took quite a long time so that would seem to cover the 11 days between the chinook crash and subsequent attack on boulder. So was the execution of Durai and the nuclear event on the same day? I don't know why this seems important to me but if anyone has any answers I would like them.
My understanding from a timeline posted in another thread was yes, the nuke and the coup happened on the same day, or at least close to each other. The colony action was happening around 7pm, but I think datu said it was 7am for him. So there might now be a 12 hour lag between the stories in terms of what we've heard.Quote:
Originally Posted by trubkir
So will all these characters meet up to celebrate Christmas and exchange pleasantries? Will Lizzie and Saul's child be born on Christmas day? Has Michael done any Christmas shopping at all with the 5 credits he took from Puck in the KODI experiment?
Right after Datu explains the meaning of Christmas in a lone spotlight clutching onto a blue blanket.Quote:
Originally Posted by trubkir
Thanks for pointing out that timeline thread. I can't believe the work that must have taken. The nuclear event wasn't listed yet but it gives me a pretty good idea of how the whole story has evolved.Quote:
Originally Posted by nikvoodoo
What about the EMP? Would they be close enough for that to kill their car?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabbage PatchIt's been a long time since I've calculated nuclear blast effects and downwind fallout hazard, so this is pretty rough.
Bomb Type: B83 1.2 megaton fusion warhead
Equivalent Yield: 1,200,000 tons of TNT
Prevailing Wind: West to East
Estimated Impact of 1.2 megaton ground burst over downtown Boulder:
Inner Red Circle—Area consumed by firestorm
Outer Red Circle—Probable total area of the firestorm
Red Arrows—Downwind Radioactive Fallout zone
The Federation of American Scientists provide an excellent description of the effects of a nuclear blast at this link: http://www.fas.org/nuke/intro/nuke/effects.htm
The Nuclear Darkness website has a tool that allows you to simulate the blast effects of a nuclear bomb on a specific location. Pick a target location, pick a blast yield (1,200 kt for a B83) and see how it plots out on Google Maps.
http://www.nucleardarkness.org/nucle...sionsimulator/
The impact of EMP is always difficult to predict, but my guess is that Datu and Hope are safe. It was a ground burst, which would reduce the range of both EMP and short wave radiation. Plus there is a lot of mountainous terrain between them and Boulder, which should block whatever EMP effect there is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Condor
And were my ears deceiving me, or was that a classic muscle car that they were driving? Modern cars with fuel injection, pollution control systems and engine computers are much more vulnerable to EMP than older models with carburetors. I'm picturing them in a 68 Chevelle, or maybe a GTO. The most vulnerable component...the battery, and we already know they have a spare.
It probably was an older car. A newer car, with more plastic and less metal, wouldn't have survived a crash. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Cabbage Patch
Sudden thought: could the "It Only Takes One" title have to do with the fact that the coup and the nuke happen on the same day? i.e "it only takes one" day to change everything?
Tbh...i was picturing a late 70s Camaro. They still have the same rumble, still made mostly of metal, and still appeal to those who know nothing of cars (datu)...heh, I may go back and check the exhaust note....i might be able to get a clearer picture of what it was exactlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Cabbage Patch
Awh thank you so much! Despite his terrible driving skills, you gotta love Datu though! Hahah :)Quote:
Originally Posted by fridginators
Hate the character, respect the performer everyone. I think we've been through this once already with Jenna, let's not go through it again.
It'll only end with me getting banned. :love:
Favourite episode ever! I never thought We're Alive could get any better and it totally did! New website is great too!
Pegs, Kelly and Lady were in the North of Boulder when the evacuation started. And they had a couple of hours to go for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt Gossett
Either they got away with a car or they were flown out of the area either with Pegs as pilot or just passenger.
My best guess is: They are at the Genesee safespot with the better part of the Boulderite-survivors.
Now a couple of questions:
If just one mountain range away we might see an avalanche roling over Datu and Hope (my guess), how likely would this occur in Genesee as well? According to CabbagePatch's map (, which still is awesome) they are close by. I don't know how "avalanche-risky" the Rockys are. Am just wondering ...
Considering that during the evacuation we herd gunfire everywhere, how likely might it be that one survivor was wounded, is a slow turner and is part of the survivors at Genesee Park?
900 mi to Fort Irwin or 1000 to L.A. ... That's about 1.500 to 1.600km ... Hell of a distance ... How do they cover this distance, IF they are enroute to Fort Irwin. I am not sure, if this is covered in the show so far: Where do the survivors of Boulder go? And how will they do this - in winter, in the Rockys, in the zeehpocalypse ... ? Would they find enough gas along the 70 to Fort Irwin? And would they be able to make the fueling stations work properly again? What with Diesel, is it still usable?
Another question would be this: Did the nuke nuke 'em all? Or were enough Little Ones out of reach of the initial and killing blast? I could imagine there would be "at least one" if not more Little Ones still on the run ...
This sole episode is capable of considering so many different ways the story could evolve ...
All the best!
Liam
My guess is that it was a '72 Chevy Nova (my first car, BTW, that I bought used for 300 bucks).Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabbage Patch
Realistically, the dog is now a charcoal briquette. And Pegs and Kelly are likely flash-shadows on a stretch of flattened rubble. I know this is a story and all, but I would shake my head in doubt if, say 5% of Boulder survives and it just happens that all three of our friends--and the fucking dog--all happened to be part of that 5%, despite Zoldiers runnin' wild and a nuclear blast...Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt Gossett
I think it's a totally acceptable and realistic story outcome that we simply never find out what happened to Pegs and Kelly. It's very likely they are among the vast numbers of dead and unaccounted for.
I bet that Datu wishes he had lifted a 4-wheeler instead of a muscle car when he finds most of the road has been blocked by rubble due to the blast. That's if the EMP hasn't killed their car. And it's a long way to hoof it to the evac site before everyone else leaves for Boulder. I'd like to see how they get out of this one...Quote:
Originally Posted by LiamKerrington
mine ears also say its a 70's era gm product, we of course have no real way of knowing exactly what the model is...but ill just say youtube "z28" and you find the exact same sounds as the car datu is driving...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeW2x...eature=relatedQuote:
Originally Posted by Litmaster
that said, an emp blast would not kill their car. no part on those old cars would be harmed by the blast(save perhaps the radio) all other important bits within those cars are mechanical based including the speedometer, and subsequently the odometer...so he would also be able to track his mileage...fun fact that im sure some of you older farts like me know(im looking at you litmaster)...datu could actually remove the battery entirely while the car is still running and nothing would happen...once the car is running, it gets its electrical power from the alternator not the battery( dont try that on anything new though, bad things happen)the battery is simply a storage device..and nice for things like that radio i mentioned^
this has been your weekly "dear todd" moment...
I think that the survivors might want to make an intermediate stop somewhere in Colorado before they try the road to Fort Irwin. I remember the road going west through the Rockys being treacherous and uncomfortable in the best of times, and doubly so in the winter. The survivors are going to need to stock up on supplies if they're going to attempt that trip, and especially if they want to save their helicopters.Quote:
Originally Posted by LiamKerrington
Buckley Air Force Base in Aurora might be a good short-term stop. It's the home base for the Colorado National Guard, and it's where the Boulder Blackhawk crew was based before Z-day, so it should be familiar to some of the survivors. It should have aviation fuel and helicopter parts, MREs and ammo. However, it might be a little too close to the fallout zone for comfort.
The big prize would be Colorado Springs, which is south of the rendezvous point and well outside the fallout zone. It has a commercial airport, a major Air Force base (Peterson AFB), a major Army base (Fort Carson), the Air Force Academy, which has its own airport, and the old NORAD (and Stargate) headquarters at Cheyenne Mountain. In many ways it's an even better enclave than Boulder, assuming it survived the initial zombie onslaught reasonably intact. Worst case, it might be a place to re-supply and rest before the evacuation, maybe aided by a new C-130 or two from Peterson and re-fueled helicopters. Best case, maybe a new safe haven.
Liam has a good point about the quality of fuel products the survivors might find along the way. Gasoline is subject to contamination and loses volitility over time. I've heard conflicting stories over how long it can be safely stored ranging from 1 year to as little as 30 days. Diesel fuel is more stable, with a recommended shelf life of 6-12 months, which I suspect can go longer. The survivors should be able to get through the winter on the fuel that's available, but eventually they're going to need a way to refine fuel for themselves.
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Originally Posted by Cabbage Patch
on the fuel subject your dead on, id say they have realistically the first of the year before any pre-outbreak gas becomes less stable. gas found in random cars will go before that found in places like the fueling station. now this is not to say the gas will be totally useless...it will still run cars with a lil less effectiveness(id say thats where the year timeframe comes from) hell, ive started cars that have sat for ten years! granted, they run like absolute shit...and modern vehicles will be far, far more problematic...but im not entirely sure it will be an issue within the timeframe of this podcast
Yes.. LOL.. That would have rocked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Privateer
He was in the mode after that. Smashing up windows then noticing that the car was unlocked. He was probably walking around like a boss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguine
I agree that it's a realistic story outcome for Pegs and Kelly to die or be eaten of screen. I can't agree that it's acceptable for us not to get positive confirmation, especially with regard to Pegs. Pegs has been with us from the very first episode and has been pretty important to the plot. She has unresolved plot lines with Michael and Scratch (who just came into her own in a very big way.) And although this theory has not been substantiated (or even proposed as far as I know), she has her own character arc that seems to mimic a hero's journey* with a call to action, a refusal, supernatural intervention, trials, retirement and a new call to action (Zombies invade Boulder). But maybe it's just coincidence that her path resembles Campbell's monomyth.Quote:
Realistically, the dog is now a charcoal briquette. And Pegs and Kelly are likely flash-shadows on a stretch of flattened rubble. I know this is a story and all, but I would shake my head in doubt if, say 5% of Boulder survives and it just happens that all three of our friends--and the fucking dog--all happened to be part of that 5%, despite Zoldiers runnin' wild and a nuclear blast...
I think it's a totally acceptable and realistic story outcome that we simply never find out what happened to Pegs and Kelly. It's very likely they are among the vast numbers of dead and unaccounted for.
Also, Angel died in a way that ostensibly no one keeping a diar--sorry, a log would have been witness to and thus, could not have recorded in their log.** But we still heard him die. I'm not proposing that the story is poorly written if characters don't get their own death scenes. However, the fact that KC stepped out of the frame (the story comes from logs) to tell the story of Angel's death seems to indicate that he's willing to give us closure with characters, even if he has to stretch a little to do so. I'm glad that he did it, too. In real life, we lose track of people all the time and spend our lives wondering what happened to them. Facebook, Twitter and Foursquare have cut down on this loss for my generation, but it still happens. The loss and pain that is inherent in real life is why people turn to fiction. It can give us answers. Fiction can make sense in a way the world never will. If WA were real life, it's unlikely that anyone other than the people in the room would know of Angel's courage and defiance in his last moments. But since WA is fiction, the listeners at least get to know. We get to see his heart be the bolder, and his courage be the more, as his might lessens, to paraphrase Maldon. KC could have just killed Angel off but he didn't. He gave us some closure with Angel and I hope he does the same for Pegs and Kelly.
Please note that this post is meant to be critical in the second meaning of the word, "expressing or involving an analysis of a creative work or performance." And not critical in the sense that I'm disproving of KC or the actors' fine work.
*It's hard to apply the hero's journey to women because stories about women have their own set of rules and acceptable outcomes that complicate the structure. So, I'm not being flippant when I say that her journey might parallel the monomyth without ever meaning to.
**nikvoodoo corrected me: "Angel's death was recorded. That's how we know it happened. Tardust turned on a camera and recorded the events."
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Originally Posted by UndeadSweeper
Hopefully. That would mean that there were plenty of survivors. :yay:
