KC has posted a new pic of TOWTM here: http://www.zombiepodcast.com/forum/s...6511#post56511
So thought I should bump this thread up. :)
Printable View
KC has posted a new pic of TOWTM here: http://www.zombiepodcast.com/forum/s...6511#post56511
So thought I should bump this thread up. :)
Sorry for the gratuitous bump, but* I have a question to ask of the community... I'm looking for a simple and free/open-source art/drawing program that has layering like PS does. It can be as simple as MSpaint, (prefer it actually) as long as it has a layering tool.
I'm brainstorming about this image and I'm about to get serious about investigating and posting my findings. I think it is high time I did... It's been posted for something like six months now.
"Over scienceing" something has been mentioned before... Although I don't disagree, I can't help it. I am a scientist... I may not be what is referred to as "classically trained," but I am nonetheless. I see a puzzle, a mystery, one that might be able to work out for myself and I want to tackle it. It's FUN. It's also something as it turns out, might actually shed some light on the subject at hand.
Having moved "home" to New England, I now have access to those kinds of libraries again.
As a parting shot for the evening of some of my preliminary findings:
This:
Attachment 2628
Appears to be a Hydrogenated Isomer of the Polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbon Anthracene. It is derived from coal tar, used to produce red dye and it is an organic semi-conductor.
This:
Attachment 2629
Appears to be the amino acid Proline.
Can anyone here read/translate (what I think is) Kanji?Quote:
Proline is an α-amino acid, one of the twenty DNA-encoded amino acids.
Proline and its derivatives are often used as asymmetric catalysts in organic reactions.
Attachment 2630
*Not so gratuitous after all. Turns out I had more to say than I realized. :)
Hey there,
@Red Shirt:
The second picture you have linked reminds me of a simplified pictogram used to display viruses; but I don't say that this is the meaning in this context.
About your request:
I don'T know for sure, but you might want to look at the programm GIMP. It is open source or at least available for free; and it is available for a variety of different operating systems. I use it to modify my avatars I use on different internet forums, and sometimes for more serious sh*t. But I haven't got into it deeply. What I often here is that it is supposed to be comparable with Photshop. So maybe you want to look at it and try it.
But I warn you: One time I tried to use Photoshop while being used to GIMP; and both programs work very different; so you have to put some effort into GIMP in order to grab its concepts and understand the linking between its functions and features:
www.gimp.org
Best wishes!
Liam
This might help slightly...
Attachment 2631
The first symbol of the kanji means child.
It actually means a mother protecting its child.
保护 means bǎo h, which has numerous meanings, but they relate to protection in one way or another. Conservation, Patronage, Shelter and ward are a few of the meanings.
Did some investigation over lunch using the Chinese hanzi characters instead of kanji.
Looks like these characters: 保护
I think these translate to (respectively):
保 - protect, safeguard, defend, care护 - protect, guard, defend, shelter
Here's my source info:
http://www.mdbg.net/chindict/chindic...qchi=%E4%BF%9D
http://www.mdbg.net/chindict/chindic...qchi=%E6%8A%A4
Edit: looks like I was a little late and Malador beat me to it.... :)
Looked up Kanji until I came across the symbol and copy pasted it. :)
That is something that I have considered too, given that there is an entire family of viruses that actually look like that. The Bacteriophage(s) to be specific. Those little nasties look like this:
Attachment 2633
However, for the moment, I am led to believe that it is more likely to be a chemical symbol. I was doing some parallel research, both for my own curiosity and to update another post of mine here... when the wiki hole went from base pairs to DNA to Amino acids and there, the chemical symbols were illustrated for the twenty one amino acids (found in Eukaryotes) and I latched onto the Proline when I saw it.
Given this discussion, I decided to take a closer look and noticed something I overlooked before and inadvertently covered up with my trace job. Let me clean it up a little:
Attachment 2634
It looks like there was a second line in there, representing a double carbon bond. This further suggests that this might not be Proline, as it does not have a double bond in its structure. (The pentagonal structure is also not entirely carbon, it has a nitrogen group on one corner.)
This may in actuality be an isomer of Cyclopentane, perhaps even hydrogenated.
Thanks for the reminder about GIMP. I just need to summon up the courage to pull the trigger. For what I want to do though, I kinda need a drawing tablet. I just might go "old school" and have the picture printed, then trace onto transparency slides and scan them.
Wow KC, thanks! @Witch_Doctor: Rosetta Stone indeed.
@Malador & @scbubba... Very interesting... food for thought while I'm at work tomorrow. Hmm, Ward... I wonder what TOWTM could be warding against.
Well, I can't wait until my next day off so I can devote a fair bit of time to this... or at least a day where I don't get off at ass-o'clock at night.
Oh, and FYI, I don't have a basement room with a bulletin board wall with pictures tacked up and colored yarn connecting them. :tinfoil:
Yet. :D
Oh, this thread reminds me a lot of those crypto analysis lessons back at university. :)
Well, the old Egyptians used to tattoo a slave's head with secret messages - but they also had the decency to wait until the hair had grown back.
Mh. Symbols of protection.
Is this a statement about his personal agenda?
Or was it a statement about his personal agenda BEFORE he became a zombie ... And did the purpose of this symbole carry over into his zombie-state?
Best wishes!
Liam
There is another Damballah-Wedo veve on the lower left hand corner of Ink's face
Attachment 2637
It's hard to make out but compare it to :http://altreligion.about.com/od/symb...allah-Wedo.htm
a symbol very similar to the second veve for Ogoun is on the top of his head
Attachment 2638
Compare to the bottom part of:http://altreligion.about.com/od/symb...n--Image-2.htm'
The alchemical symbol for sulphur, the triangle above a cross, appears above his left eye. The symbol for silver or the Armanen rune for human/birth, three lines extending out upward from a central point, is directly below it. The symbol for salt or water, a circle with a horizontal line through it, is on his right nostril,and I KNOW I have seen the X's with the line through them before, as they appear on his left nostril, but I can't remember what it means.
The eye of Horus in reverse, located below his right eye, represents the moon and the Egyptian god of magic, Thoth. The circumpunct to the right of the Ogoun symbol on top of his head historically stood for the sun.
If you look to the right, along the cleft of his chin, you can see the other of the two snakes that comprise the Damballah-Wedo Veve.
When I jumped in tonight, I was hoping to make some connections and I did, but not where I had hoped. This seems to have opened up more questions... on the right side of his skull, the symbol looks remarkably like this Veve for Erzulie:
Attachment 2641
More specifically the Matresse Mambo Erzulie Frda Dahomey aspect. She is said to wear three wedding bands, one for each of her husbands: Damballa, Ogoun and Agwe...
Damballa, check. Oogoun, check. Agwe... his Veve looks like this:
Attachment 2642
I wonder what we might find on the back of his skull...
Something I'd like to point out is that Damballa, Oogoun, Agwe and Erzulie are counted among the Rada Loa Nanchon... beneficent elder gods/spirits/forces of creation, craftsmanship and the elements...
I mentioned previously (obliquely) what seems to be the presence of Solomonic magic talismans. Well, I was able to conduct some research at the library the other day and discovered that (in addition to the Christian influence) there seems to be the presence of Judaic influence in Voodoo magic. Notably, the presence of (ancient?) Hebrew and that many of the Veves and other talismans also bear some resemblance to those found in the Key of Solomon. This needs more work though, perhaps tomorrow I will be able to read up more on the subjects and be able to connect them better.
I wanted to back up and try to take a fresh look at all of this... and boy, I'm glad that I want back through the older posts.
Turns out I rep'd that post already... wish I could again, so here's a +1 thumb for you.
This highlighted segment here, the boxes denote blured areas I couldn't figure out until I re-read Witch_Doctor's post:
Attachment 2677
Matches this Veve:
Attachment 2678
Not just an "intermediary," it must be said. He's the Gatekeeper to the spirit world, Vilokan and a bridge between the two.
I'll also note that this tattoo is on his right hand. (The hand of strength, power, ect. I tried web searching for right hand myths and all I got was lefties. Stupid Google.)Quote:
Legba is also strongly associated with the sun and is seen as a life-giver, transferring the power of Bondye to the material world and all that lives within it.
His association with creation, generation and life makes him a common lwa to approach with matters of sex, and his position as a conduit of Bondye's will makes him a lwa of order and destiny.
A revelation I had at work the other day, an actual connection rather than throwing things at the wall to see what sticks, is that:
This seems to suggest that with the power of Papa Legba in his hand, he (thinks he) is using the power of Bondye and the spirit realm for creation as he sees fit.
(It should also be added that the Petro aspect, Met Kafou Legba, represents destruction rather than creation and is a trickster who introduces chaos and disruption.)
Another supposition I have been thinking about is weather or not TOWTM is or is not Bill Roberts, AKA: Ink. Ink was convicted of multiple homicides (last May, suspiciously close to exactly a year before the outbreak) and was confirmed to be paranoid schizophrenic by his doctors. Multiple? How Many? Serial Killer and for how long? Over here, in the WND #55 thread, I talked about the the apparent experimentation that TOWTM is conducting at the hospital.
If Ink actually is TOWTM, I think that it's entirely possible that he didn't wait until Z-Day to start experimenting and building his army. That's what those homicides were. Failures because human biology couldn't cope with the radical things he was trying to do with them and he didn't have quite the right cocktail worked out yet. He needed "Zombie" biology and the haze for it to work.
As a parting shot for the day, I'd like to throw a few things out there.
- What do you think of the positioning of the tattoos? Do you think that there might be meaning in their location in addition to the tattoo itself? I initially thought of Chakras, but but given only seven, that didn't make a lot of sense. I hit on Chi Meridians but I haven't found a good reference for that yet.
- The Greek capitol letter Theta that's on his nose. I've been reading up on theta brainwaves to see if anything turns up... there may be something there.
- Also looking into the chemical structure of both Tetrodotoxin and Chlorpromazine. (Thorazine, the first drug developed as an anti-psychotic.)
- Curious about the nature of the faded and overlapping tattoos... are they meant to represent the experimental nature of the process or are the molecules actually far more complex than we realize?
That, and I've back burner'ed the angelic alphabets angle. All appearances seem to indicate that it's a red herring of my own making.
Awesome, post. I have to run to work, but I can't wait to see what you can find out about the tetrodotoxin, i.e. puffer fish-zombie goo from Serpent and the Rainbow.
So the chicken foot looking thing at the top right is I think rune that means man. In a lot of the runic alphabets it's shown with curved arms, but, in many instances was found looking like the symbol on his ole' bald head. So, he may be the protector of his people/creations (zombies); the protector of the earth from the humans; or what would interest me most: protector of the human species because he saw something catastrophic about to happen and he wanted to mutate humanity to help us survive it (Granted the last one would make the need to kill us all and make us into tasty nom noms pointless). At the very least, like all genocidal monsters; he sees himself doing good.
Consider this though before we all fall down the symbol rabbit hole--It all doesn't seem to add up to a lot of information except in terms of concepts that were on his mind (or the mind of whoever tattooed him on the back of his head for instance).
In most zombie fiction, when someone engineers zombies it's to cleanse the earth of the destructive humans. This way we get to have our cake and eat it too. We get to vastly improve the quality of our morning commute; but we also get to be innocent and appalled by the slaughter. By mutating us; he believes he's actually allowing for our survival? That is, if they can have kids, otherwise we are meant to go the way of the dinosaur.
OOH! Here's a fun idea; This world having been created by aliens as a petri dish to create a sentient species has had several extinctions also created by them. The dinosaurs were cool, but other than learning how to fly, they didn't seem to advance to the next cognitive level so the aliens wiped the slate and started again. They saw us as too rapacious (or REALLY didn't like reality TV) and were warming up the eraser. Somehow, Ink found out about it. He thought trying to talk to people about it was futile, so he figured out the state that would best allow us to survive the reset.
So, do you think the bullseye is just a bullseye--denoting he's good at hitting (or catching) things?
I apologize in advance for the length of this post but I needed to get this out, anyone curious about what I have to say please give me the benefit of the doubt and read the whole post . Id really like to get some hopefully positive feedback.
I dont really have any evidence to back this up just speculating but i think the scientific explanation is more likely and i think the religious and voodoo like aspects from the tattoos are more an inspiration for inks actions. i think that ink is a bio-chemist with a fixation on voodooism and various religions having to do with aspects of rebirth, fate, and the renewal of mankind, and this religious fixation and scientific background drove him to find a way to recreate mankind to create a more perfect world. i believe through human experimentation he found a way to alter humans to a similar state as the "zombies" using aspects of modern science and homeopathic medicine, tying with his science background and voodooism beliefs, but he needed a way to spread his gospel and sought the help of the american military or a private pharmaceuticals company by using their funding for his work while working projects for them, maybe even Radon Labs located in L.A. I agree that polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons seem like a likely biological carrier due to their mutagenic and teratogenic properties and i think the tattoos may indicate that the virus is based one of those PAHs and because they are most commonly found in oil like substances such as soil, crude oil, and tar it may be possible that Ink during the course of his work found veins of tar and soil underneath inglewood maybe connected to the La Brea Tar Pits or just happenstance and he used those veins along with the highly concentrated PAHs to create a massive aerosolized release of his virus.
This second part may be a big leap but i think it would explain the seemingly simultaneous release of this virus and that is that i think Ink had co-conspirators who helped him to find multiple locations globally and to prepare and to coordinate the release of his virus, he did it on his own, or im just completely wrong.
Another point you made was that maybe tonya didnt find anything in the blood was because the virus didnt actually add something to the body but it actually recoded DNA that was present in human genetics but dormant and this could explain the rapid rate at which people turn because the virus is using the bodys nature to maintain equilibrium and once the DNAs recoded the body mutates itself and it could account for the varying rates of turning because each persons genetic profile and compatibility with the virus would vary, it could really explain a lot if its true.
This could also explain the special variants because it means that Ink likely used his understanding of his virus to first infect himself with a strain of the virus that allowed him to in large part retain his intelligence and simultaneously gain the attributes he needed to take power in his new world, and using this retained intelligence and understanding of the virus he began experimenting once he gained control. Along with his experimenting i believe the virus is highly mutative and varying neurological, physiological, and genetic factors influenced some of the biters to become runners, some to be smarter, some to be more violent or aggressive, and it would explain why the jumpers disappeared so quickly because they were a failed mutation. This experimenting would also better explain the arena it wasnt just a hive it was a proving ground of sorts that was used to find the promising candidates for his experimentation and as a way to train his "people" for the inevitable conflicts that would occur with humans. the idea of experimentation would also explain two things that have been bothering me why was there blood, body parts, and corpses all over that ward in the hospital and why havent there been any indications of juvenile zombies. Even assuming that the viruses initial stage had a high mortality over infection rate which it would have to or else L.A. would have been overrun with millions of the infected and I think there were tens of thousands at best, that still means that there should be infected children and if there had been im sure that someone by now would have been shocked by it. So I think that Ink is using all of the infected children he can find as test subjects to create his soldier inklings hoping to take advantage of a childs physical and neurological adaptability to improve his success rate, but I think he had a high failure rate before he was successful which would explain the blood, fingernails, and broken syringes on the beds ands and the blood streaks, body parts, and corpses that were strewn throughout the ward. Ink continued to experiment with his Inklings even after hed created 12 of them which would account for the rapid growth and the continued and seemingly controlled adaptations and mutations.
I agree, the voodoo symbols are inspirational, not the source. I think Ink is using his unique circumstances and possible insight to capitalize on the outbreak. He didn't start it but he may have known it was coming, its effects and maybe even experimented with some of the contagions. Perhaps even building up some sort of immunity or tolerance to the source via exposures to the Hot Spots. perhaps this exposure can explain his 'insanity'.
I figured that it would be a stretch that Ink started it i just wanted to put the idea out there, but at the very least i think Radon Labs is involved because its too coincidental that a government or private laboratory just happened to be in the city where this virus started or at least where there's a hotspot. i also think that Radon Labs was either studying the cause of this event or virus, or that they possibly even had something to do with it. And I really think Ink was involved like maybe he worked there, understood what happened, or was connected to them and the event in some way.
im positive that he engineered this virus or that he at the very least had a very good understanding of its properties. he has a tattoo on the right side of his skull representing the veve for Erzulie pointed out by Red Shirt and her veve has the connection to her husbands Damballa, Oogoun, and Agwe who represent creation of life; craftsmanship, creation, and war; and the ruler of the seas, those are respective to each husband. Red Shirt made the point that one of the tattoos on upper left of his skull could represent either a bacteriophage or a hydrogenated carbon bond, and if its the bacteriophage read the introduction and it says they can be found in bacterial places like soil and can be found in enormous quantities in sea water, Agwe lord of the seas anyone.
RE: Blood in the Hospital
If one wants science, one of the biggest is the Law of Thermodynamics. We live in a world where energy is required to do things. We are biological machines and our energy is measured in calories. Say the contagion rewrites the metabolism and changes the structure of biological machine. That will require calories. The initial outbreak may start with mindless killing machines because they are literally insanely hungry. We see "eating" in the initial outbreak, but then it seems to stabilize and we even see advanced planning and "food" storage.
But, I would be remiss if I did not put on my Tinfoil hat. :tinfoil: Wars are most often fought over a scarcity of resources. I do not have enough, so I am going to take yours. Keep stealing all the dinosaurs I put underground to ferment for 65 millions years so they taste just right and I might get really pissed off and come out of the Earth and kill you to stop you. Hell, I might even take a few billion of your dead bodies and cram them underrground to start the seasoning process. LOL
Seriously though, the one thing that has not been given enough discussion is what Saul says to Angel on their first trip out. "I do not get it, three (?) days and there is no one left in LA. Where did everyone / every "body" go? Say we have a 5,000 biters in LA. There is no way they each ate 1,000 people in three days.
Yeah good point. Where has a mass of 5 million, among millions elsewhere; zombie, still human, or corpse, actually gone to??
Sssshhhh...I think maybe it's something we're not supposed to think about.
IDK, maybe that many bodies can be spread over such a large area without it not actually looking like a LOT of bodies...
im positive that he engineered this virus or that he at the very least had a very good understanding of its properties. he has a tattoo on the right side of his skull representing the veve for Erzulie pointed out by Red Shirt and her veve has the connection to her husbands Damballa, Oogoun, and Agwe who represent creation of life; craftsmanship, creation, and war; and the ruler of the seas, those are respective to each husband. Red Shirt made the point that one of the tattoos on upper left of his skull could represent either a bacteriophage or a hydrogenated carbon bond, and if its the bacteriophage read the introduction and it says they can be found in bacterial places like soil and can be found in enormous quantities in sea water, Agwe lord of the seas anyone.
Red Shirt made some points that I think give my idea some weight on page six on some of the symbolism in his tattoos and his possible origin, id quote but im not entirely sure how.
Has anyone put any real thought into what triggered the event and its global spread because its not it could have spread through transportation not with how fast people turned. Did it happen the same way as in L.A. some sort of seismic activity and a release of some sort of pathogen, and if so how did happen almost simultaneously within a day or less of the initial event. I sort of think there had to be some sort project being done on a glodal scale researching something, testing something, and maybe some sort of accident or unforseen consequence, or maybe it was just a really horrific large scale natural catastrophe. Anyone have any ideas how it happened maybe even how Ink is involved, if thats who TOWTM really is.
Sorry about the grammar in that one
He (TOWTM) keeps reminding me of Mal'akh from Dan Brown's "The Lost Symbol" ... At least he does now that I've read this topic. :D
Interesting theories, keep researching. (I would if I had been sighted, trust me, I love mysteries like this. Hehe.)
Several people have. Forum member, Redshirt, has a pretty in depth theory that, reputedly, got some interesting attention from KC at a We're Alive Cast & Crew event. http://www.zombiepodcast.com/forum/s...-origin-theory
Just to add my highly insightful comments on TOWTM's tattoos.
The one on his face, in between the two snakes, looks like a sock giraffe.
I know, I know, that probably changes everything. You're welcome.
Very interesting theories. I read a few book on alchemy before and many of these symbols seem like variants of Alchemical Symbols. Alchemy was kept very secretive by Alchemists (who are basically modern day chemists) in fear of blasphemy. So they encrypted their formulas. It even goes back further, no one really knows, but I imagine that even some of these old works you have been discovering could of been alchemic legends themselves. I don't think it would even matter if you could decipher it. You would just get a lot of chemicals for a fictional outcome.
I posted this over in the 42 3/3 thread, but it desperately needs to be posted here.
I'll need to come back to it. To clean it up and expand upon it, but this all just came to me and kinda hit me like a freight train.
I copy pasted it to get it up here quickly, this thread seems to be easier to find and the chapter threads seem to get buried after a while.
Alright, I managed to shake of the funk I was in and I thing I might have nailed something significant to the wall:
From Chapter 42, 3/3:
Test Subject #2, George Armstrong, 53. Inmate conflict. Doped with Folistatin and Stanozolol.
(You may note that Puck repeated himself, pronouncing it two different ways. Maybe to be sure we got the spelling right?)
Stanozolol is a synthetic anabolic steroid derived from Dihydrotestosterone.
(You'll need to click on the images, black lines on a clear background.)
This is Stanozolol:
Attachment 2989
This is Dihydrotestosterone:
Attachment 2990
Look familiar yet? It should, Dihydrotestosterone looks like the tattoo on the back of his hand.
Now, Stanozolol chemistry is a bit vague, but it is said that: "The pyrazole ring in stanozolol can be prepared from oxymetholone by the condensation of a keto-aldehyde with hydrazine."
The Pyrazole ring is the HN/N pentagon on the left side of the Stanozolol. It looks like this:
Attachment 2991
Now like I said, I'm not clear on the chemistry, but I think it means that Stanozolol is synthesized from Oxymetholone By building a Pyrazole ring on one end.
Oxymetholone loks like this:
Attachment 2992
That looks remarkably like the tattoo on the right side of his skull.... and that Hydrogenated Cyclopentane isomer I mentioned above? It's actually probably a Pyrazole ring. The synthesis of Pyrazoles mention de-hydrogenation. (The removal of that little forked tail.)
The tattoos on his body are describing the synthesizing of one of the chemicals that he is using in his experiments. Stanozolol.
Boom baby. I still got it. Maybe.
Attachment 3004
Found this, it's a rune but I don't know how ancient.
It might be based on a real rune.
hraethigaldur: Puts fear into the enemy
Those seem to be Magical Norse/Viking runes, though not part of the Elder Futhark.
Here's the two that I mentioned in the WA FanCast this week... It's not posted as a podcast yet, though it is listenable through YouTube.
These are from the Season 4 artwork.
Left Hand:
Attachment 3005
(Hammer and sickle, hammer replaced with arrow.)
Right Hand:
Attachment 3006
("Alchemical Sulfur," except double barred and curly "tails.")
Now, I have yet to suss these out, but your post has opened a whole new branch of investigation.
Going back to the S4 art and with the rune lead, I discovered this, also on the left hand:
Attachment 3007
is a pretty close match for this:
Attachment 3008
Gibu Auja, for "Good Luck." Note however, that it is inverted in the tattoo. Might this then mean bad luck or a curse for others?
(Sorry for the double, but I think that I hit my picture posting limit in the last one.)
Also, I am drawn back to this area on his scalp:
Attachment 3010
Which bears some artistic similarity to this piece:
Attachment 3011
(Russian site, I'll need to reverse image search this one for more info.)
Well shucks, I didn't think I was going to have much to do tonight... looks like I'll actually have my hands full chasing these down.
Edit/update:
I think I've got this one drilled down a bit more, it seems to be similar to Icelandic Magical Staves, though I haven't found a match yet... though there seems to be a fascination for this in Russia. A lot of sites I've come across are in Russian.
Triple post, but I think it's worth it.
Shifting gears back to Chemistry, I wanted to chase down something I noticed earlier:
This hydrocarbon:
Attachment 3014
Repeated in the Season 4 art:
Attachment 3015
I figured a little deduction aught to be able to crack this one open. I found a site where I learned that a hexagon diagram without the double lines (or circle) is actually Cyclohexane, not Benzine:
Benzine:
Attachment 3016
Cyclohexane:
Attachment 3018
So, using a bit of chemistry logic, I applied the prefix "Di-" to the front of the chemical. Dicyclohexane does exist:
Attachment 3019
...and I think I found a gold mine.
I found a scientific paper written about a study on the affect of Dicyclohexane derivatives on testosterone and dihydrotestosterone in rats. Trying to get my head around it, but it sounds like it has a selective inhibition effect on testosterone. Pay wall, but the abstract is HERE.
However, I also learned that Dicyclohexane inhibits the aromatization of testosterone... simply meaning that it slows/stops the conversion of androgens into estrogens. Aromatase plays a strong role in sexual development and if it is deficient in women, it can lead to Virilization and Amenorrhoea... sounds a bit like the "underdeveloped secondary sexual characteristics" that Tanya discovered in the autopsy.
Reports of excess Aromatase (AES) have indicated that besides the sexual differentiation complications, it can lead to short stature... It stands to reason that if it is inhibited, the reverse could be true. Tall inklings and Behemoths.
It has also been shown to decrease cell death in brain injuries... therefore its absence or inhibition may increase neural cell death, ie, zombification.
Wow.