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On the "who's the rat?" front: Did anyone else notice that Michael sounded a little surprised when Kelly shot at the biters? Almost like he didn't expect her to have a gun? It sounded like she had a handgun. Like a silenced pistol minus the suppressor perhaps?. Dunno something to mull over. I'm still voting Riley for the rat, but I'm scrutinizing everything she and Kelly does from here on out.;)
They may not need it. With all chemicasl a hospital has and the probably a generator or two that could cause a big enough explosive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kunja
True... hmmm. What about if he's sweated near them? would that be enough? I know it's the sweat the zombies love, so perhaps it's from a sweaty gun he's held that they now have.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7oddisdead
No, i don't think either Tanya or Datu had a gun.. Gah! Brain hurts. Would still like it to be somehow linked. I think I'm just reaching though. Ah well. A nice thought at the time.
So first of all, Michael or Lizzy talks about Riley and a group of people trying to go to the hospital looking for medicine for Saul. this was back when Saul was still half dead.
So behemoths work with randoms now, as part of an army? shiet that aint good.
So it seems the Hospital is "The Devil's Workshop"
It's Randy, and he's a dude
Tanya may or may not be turning... again, wow this just runs in the family
For those predicting Burt's death, well it looks like that may happen soon. I can't see the others dying just yet. Kalani needs to fly the chopper, There are still is she/isn't she issues with Riley's sexuality, and Angel's darker past hasn't come to light yet, that and he's still 2nd in command of the tower, and since there seems to be 3 or 4 missions going on all at once, he's not someone to lose just yet. Burt on the other hand... he's an old man filled with regret. He may not die till after saul and lizzy are united, but the path he's been going down makes things uncertain. Considering he's a fan favorite, his death could be effective as a tragedy.
Leading to the closing point. I don't even wanna go here. I really don't wanna go here at all. Angel's butting heads with Burt over leadership. On the upside, he was pretty adamant about wanting charge on this mission. And considering the losing streak Burt's been on recently, and how Angel's been kicking ass lately, Angel probably would be the better choice to lead this. But right now it seems to me as though there's more of a stand off between the two rather than there being a clear leader on this mission. Both of them backed down at the same point, and only because they had to, to focus on the mission. But from my jaded point of view, it would seem Angel is more likely to be the one calling the shots because of the people on this mission. Angel's closest "followers" in the tower happen to be Riley and Kalani. (for burt it would more likely be Lizzy and Saul). I think it stands for something that Kalani chose Angel to go into the hospital with him over Burt. But considering the shape Burt's marksmanship is in right now, Kalani, unknowingly made a very good choice. At this point I'd say this is a test of leadership ability for Angel. It's a crisis situation, can he take control of this group when someone extremely headstrong like Burt is present? If he can, he's reached a new mile stone in his path to leadership. If he can't... well, that's not good. So yeah, now I'm just waiting for nik or crowbar to tear this apart... whoopeeee.....
I'm wondering who that is on the Chapter Artwork. He's carrying one of Riley's arrows but I can't tell if he's an infected person or a human.
I've constantly had that "puppet master" vibe throughout the chapters. I feel just as there are jumpers, small ones, and behemoths, that there are also group leaders. They almost seem to have a unique roar. I'm very interested to see if the one leading this group his a familiar zombie; whether it is Pin Stripes or a completely different one with markings.
Michael was very frustrating during his conversation with Tanya. I was very anxious to hear what she had to say. And now, i don't know how long it will be before they get back to that! Grrr!!!!
As far as Randy goes, I feel comfortable spelling it with a /Y/ since Michael described him as having a beard. Considering that Michael was only at the water pumping station for about a day, I am going to assume that he has known Randy previous to the zombie oubreak, otherwise I can not picture Michael growing an emotional attachment to someone he only knew for a day. Unless Randy sacrificed himself to enure Michael's survival.
lol, when Steven and Michael were fighting off that small group of zombies I thought Steven was going to get killed. When they were walking out of the parking garage, I almost expected Michael to say, "Hey red-shirt guy."
he's the one in the pin striped suit... isn't he?Quote:
Originally Posted by Adventureless_Hero
Forgot about this, how close is the hospital to the tower? The tower will need to "evict" thier new neighbors.
I think so, atleast that's the answer I'm leaning towards. But I have to consider the possibility that it could be a new character; a twisted doctor who enjoys expierementing on people and zombies. That would be rowdy if Riley shoots Pin Stripes with an arrow and he just slowly pulls it out of himself. I'm calling it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kunja
I noticed this too and forgot to mention it. It may have just been Michael's suprise to find someone else shooting besides himself and Steven. His reaction of, "Kelly?!" could have been an audio drama device to let the audience know who else joined the frackas. But still, it got my gears turning too. I wonder if Michael knows Kelly is the one but doesn't really care since he now has a lot of faith in her as a tower member. Remember how keen Michael was to say, "It seems like whoever it was is loyal to us now." That just screams of Kelly.Quote:
Originally Posted by HardKor
http://zombiepodcast.com/forum/showt...65-Randy-RandiQuote:
Originally Posted by clparson
here's a thread dedicated to finding out who randy is.
Also yes Riley is an alcoholic and she thinks AA is for quitters
I dont think so......Burt is recapping from the future no? This isnt in real time, its people recapping the events of the past.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Ra1th
[QUOTE=Bulldog711;21539][QUOTE=Ra1th;21531]For those predicting Burt's death, well it looks like that may happen soon.if he does recap up to when they get the copter, then someone else takes over, he could still die. not that i want him too. that would suck. but going out with a bang and saving a bunch of them would suit the character a lot.Quote:
I dont think so......Burt is recapping from the future no? This isnt in real time, its people recapping the events of the past.......
This episode was awesome. Finally, some more zombie action. I think that Saul is as good as dead out there. I think he is going to find Lizzie sometime soon, but she will not be alive. And then Saul will either kill himself or get himself killed. Or maybe Lizzie becomes one of the "zombies" and kills him. Muahahaha!
This isnt the first time an episode was told from a character in the future and I am sure it wont be the last.......Burt has to survive to be recalling all these events in the future........................
The chapter art looks awfully like the "One in the Suit"........This hospital could be one of the Zombie Leader's Laire.....Keep in mind the "smart ones" might be quite smart and resourceful because we all know these zombies are not all mindless decaying flesh looking for delicious brains........
[QUOTE=Magrat;21540][QUOTE=Bulldog711;21539]Well the question is; WHEN is he doing this interview? When is "the present"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ra1th
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Originally Posted by Ra1th
To quote Riley, "Does it matter really?"
I believe when Burt is initially talking about the previous events was probably after the hospital was being flooded with the "infected" creatures.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bulldog711
Oh and damn you Michael, Tanya was about to key on something interesting about the journals and you had to be "all damn snippy" with her.
Hoo boy, that was some episode for plot development. Too tired to give full theories on what happened, so I'll stick with artwork theories.
Artwork: I'm not sure how much of a bearing the artwork has on the content of the chapter, but three distinct thing stand out to me. One, the artwork is set in a hospital, which is the current setting of the chapter. Two, the figure in the artwork appears to be wearing a suit similar to the one 'Paul' wore. Three, he's holding an arrow, and Riley is referenced as having a full quiver of arrows. Perhaps we see the reintroduction 'Paul' and a death?
Is it just me or did anyone hear a blooper from 5:31 to 5:51?
I have to second what the others said about Burt dying, he has to be alive long enough to be able to relay all this information. Sounds like it's in a journal, so my guess would be sometime after whatever is going down at the hospital is over. I mean you don't sit down when there are zombies all over actively attacking you to write about your day. Well maybe some people do, but Burt wouldn't. Also I don't think that Riley's undefined sexuality is reason enough to keep her alive, I mean if that were the case we don't really know Bill's sexual preferences do we and he's dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ra1th
I know that you're Angel fanboy extreme, but having leadership training and having the ability/personality/respect to be able to lead are 2 completely separate things. I don't see a lot of people at the tower taking commands from Angel even if he develops the chutzpa to take over that post.
On another note, I can't help feeling bad for Saul, I mean really? The woman he loves or is romantically involved with is out in the zombie filled world who knows where and he has no contact with her. He finally sees his Mom again after 4 years and now she's unconscious possibly infected. Poor guy can't catch a break.
I'm hoping Michael takes a look at all the journals like Tanya was talking about and finds out whatever she was about to say before he got all haughty on her.
I'm thinking that Randy is someone from Michael's past, we know he doesn't have family, but could be someone he served with.
I laughed so much when they were teasing Kalani about his weight. "It was me, Fatty!" - Riley :D
Did anyone else notice that when Riley said her arrows were quiet, Kalani mentioned that he had a gun with a silencer? Could this mean that he is the one who shot Pippin?
Tanya was about to say something really important about the journals and Michael cut her off. When that happened, I was sure that something was going to happen to her, and I was right.
The zombie call was different to the usual one. The mallers seem to be able to tell the calls apart and know what they mean, I wish we could hear more about it from them. This new call reminded me of the orcs at the Battle of Helm's Deep in the Lord of the Rings. Definitely more of an army feel to it.
Hey man, Just a quick GeeWiz, before I have to go again. Kelley left the colony with a "glock". She says, "I will take the glock", but she did not appear to know what the m16 was called when she checked it with gatekeeper.Quote:
Originally Posted by HardKor
7odd is right. Michael Hugs Saul when he comes back with the zombie-chick magnet motorcycle. Saul then says, whoa, I thought you were a handshake man (or something) Michael says people change. But, I think hugs would be a special occasion for michaelQuote:
Originally Posted by 7oddisdead
He probably has a bunch. He was going to blow some holes in the Mallers wall. I do not think he has enough to drop the building, but he can set some bad all traps.Quote:
Originally Posted by UndeadSweeper
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Originally Posted by Zombiehead
The chair creaking and the slight stutter from Riley? I don't know if that is a blooper or not. SOMEONE HELP!!!!
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Originally Posted by Bulldog711
I agree with bulldog, if Burt died, he would not know what burt wrote, unless Burt took a hell of a lot of notes while on the Mish.
You don't wanna go to the hospital, cause there are alot of Smart Ones there. The smarter you are in life, the smarter you are in death.
ANGEL [I miswrote Michael at the time of the original post, my bad. Thanks to Fishie for finding it] says he has a silenced MP5. I do not recall Kalani mentioning anything. That silenced MP5 was last "seen" in The Catalyst.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishie
It couldn't have been Michael, because that exchange took place in the car on the way to the hospital, as they were deciding who would go inside and who would stay outside. They had already mentioned talking to Michael on the radio, it was just Riley, Burt, Kalani and Angel. At 5:37:Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthur LaMarche
Riley: "Don't rule me out either. I have a full quiver of arrows if you want to be quiet in there"
Kalani: "I have the silenced MP5 from the colony, so we won't need your bow, alright"
Riley: "You never know, and my bow makes no sound. That still makes some."
It is possible that I am getting Kalani and Angel's voices mixed up, but I am pretty sure it is Kalani who said that. Also, I don't think Angel would be that rude to Riley.
for the people saying that Burt can't die in the hospital because of he's the one telling the story. It all depends on WHEN, Burt is telling the story. the episode starts off with Angel, Kalani, Burt and Riley running in the hospital and them reaching a dead end. And then it cuts to Burt telling the story from the start. It could be that burt is going through the information in his head as they are still in the hospital. I don't want Burt to die or anything, but it's a possibility.
Everything's a possibility! What show are you guys listening to?! ;) Too many loose ends to make any new prdictions, but one thing I feel strongly about, is that Saul's not going to have any more "Get Out of Jail Free Cards". Meaning: It's either him, Lizzy, or his Mother about to meet certain doom. No one else in this story is lucky enough to have both immediate family AND a romantic love interest. Saul has enough to lose and still a little bit left over to be happy for (But now he may lose BOTH!) . I think Tanya will turn slowly from her scratches... and Saul's going to be kicking himself later on. His lucky streak can't last forever, unfortunately.
It may be a specific glitch on your version. My plays clean through the conversation. Angel says "I have a silenced MP5 from the colony."Quote:
Originally Posted by Zombiehead
Yeah, I never had that problem either. There was a small stutter on Riley's end but that was it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adventureless_Hero
My download did the stutter/repeat thing right around there. I thought I accidentally hit the rewind button.
Relistening, did anyone notice that right after Michael takes his shots at Randy and Steven catches up with him, he says, "A few of them were burned! Did you see that?"
I think this could be a subtle clue as to where they zombies came from. Possibly they were burned from however Michael escaped the Water Pumping Station? Maybe?
Maybe, but I thought it was more about how the zombies escaped the burning arena, and they are now on the loose. (Michael doesn't know that the Arena's been burned down.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Adventureless_Hero
Great episode, I don't know if it's just me getting my fix after having no WA for two weeks, but did this episode seem a load more exciting than the entire last chapter. OK my views:
Definately Angel who has the MP5. However, I'm pretty certain Pippin was killed with the pistol for two reasons: 1. Sounds different to when michael used it 2. It's missing from Burts/Sauls bag - can't be a coincidence.
I agree with Ra1th about the Burt from the future, because the episode starts with them locking themselves in a room. It is possible that he could have written it in this time, starting with what just happened, and then remembering to recap on what happened since he last wrote.
Another point is that the 'army' are carrying dead and/or alive bodies with them: Bricks/Tardust/Lizzy/Saul perhaps?
Randy. I reckon Michael met him in water pumping station, but I am curious to know if Michael knew him before this all started, or could it be a Datu/Samantha situation. lol
Also interested to see if Tanya had actually found a discrepancy with the journals, like is mentioned in the voodoo lounge.
Zombies surrounding the tower. Could this be a way to stop them sending reinforcements to help the 4 who have gone in? At first I was thinking it might all be one trap to catch some of the survivors, but 3 skinny and one flabby human won't feed all them. It got me thinking about the long term plans for the zombies. I mean since they are definately organised, what are they gonna do when all the food runs out? Start farming for vegetables?
Also with the mass rallying of zombies, are Victor, pegs and datu gonna be okay. Victor may be good, but hes not good enough to take on a few hundred. I would have to lol if pegs saved there lives by flying them out of there.
Wow now thats out of my system, just gotta wait another week til the next one.