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mmm but who would do the revealing? who's left at the tower that know of the mole? that's datu, kalani, kelly, (all serious susupects) and pegs, i think thats it, maybe pegs will go all nancy drew on this but id rather the action stick with assault team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cutting-T
AND HELL YES WAR 2.0! we just need Ink, and the colony up in this, and it'll be mass chaos
Ra1th,
I don't think she was there, but she was "THERE" if you know what i mean. I'd think that everyone got a pretty detailed story about that arena. I must have missed something because everyone knew about HOPE and I don't recall her name being mentioned in detail that even Kelly would be hip to who she is just by hearing a name.
It's just my theory, but I think the Mallers have been clearing up the area. It's the only way I can see them traveling around wily nily.
I think Ft Irwin is too far for the time they've traveled and the distance a person can walk at night and try to stay hidden. Lizzie did say she planned to go back after a day or two.
The prison would be the natural assumption and the most logical. Since when has KC done anything logical... er, what WE think is at least. ROFL! I'm going to start calling him the Walter Payton of the podcast world.. we think he's going one direction and JUKE! Nope, the other way he goes. leaving us sprawled on the 20 yard line.
Yeah, I just added Fort Irwin to the Google Map, and it's about 3 hours away during real life conditionsQuote:
Originally Posted by Cutting-T
Kc, you are a sick and demented man. Great episode!
Also remember something else: Lizzy is from L.A. There is the slight possibility that where they are is somewhere she knows from before the outbreak. What could cause such a reaction? I don't have any good guesses at the moment. But I'll throw a log on the fire anyway: LAX. If she sees an airport, she might assume the worst which is she's being flown somewhere by the Mallers and then she'll really be screwed.
As for the Mallers going to Fort Erwin: The roads are jammed leading out of the city. I don't think that's where they got off to. And if they did do that, the Tower people will be able to follow their trail very easily.
I, like others, vote for a knockered up Lizzy. While it could very easily be explained away as the situation she was in at the time (who could honestly blame her), I think her reaction of surprise to throwing up is a strong clue.
If you're thinking of Latch, I'd say it's probably not the case. Latch is dead. Scratch's reaction to him being shot, and reaction to Angel trying to return his body seem like it's a strong indicator (or a 99.99% assurance) that Latch is dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meeks
LAX??! dude you suck for adding that twist! Great addition to the theory! Now I really need to look at the map to see how close that is to their territory.
Ok, open bids for where to go on the Voodoo lounge prediction thread.
Put me down for the Arena.. just because
I like this idea... And even more interestingly, who would be their pilot?Quote:
Originally Posted by nikvoodoo
Durai!!! that dude is probably like the swiss army knife of prisoners! LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Rock Daddy
Noted my good sir. I'm sure the location will be in the next installment.Quote:
Originally Posted by HaveCrowBarWillTravel
LAX is located, as I think...Njhellfire I think it was who initially pointed it out??...right next to where the fueling depot is in the Maller territory. So it's not too far off the realm of possible that LAX is the location.
He was not referring to Latch. Latch is dead. Dead dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by j0be
Oh, and Fort Irwin is 4 hours in decent conditions. Google maps has that time wrong... just saying ;)
I caught that too. And I stopped and thought about it for a second, but I'm going with Pegs description of Latch's eyes (12-3 ~10:30), Angel's ID of the body (via the ring), and Scratch's reaction during the War and over the Radio.Quote:
Originally Posted by j0be
I can't think of any scenario where Latch can be alive. Feel free to prove me wrong, please! But I can't wrap my head around any way he could possibly have survived.
EDIT: I Hate it when Kc sneaks in the final word while I'm typing my epic responses :p ;)
I was pretty sure it wasn't the same person. That would have had to have been a serious phoenix moment for that to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kc
Never been to California, so I couldn't at all ballpark base on my own experience.
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I know. I just add a few bumpers to keep from going off the road ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by j0be
I prefer the bowling image. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Kc
I think you found the loophole yourself, the body they found was unrecognisable: How much would you trust a simple ring?Quote:
Originally Posted by nikvoodoo
I'm going to just trust KC on this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cutting-T
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Originally Posted by Kc
Yeah. I don't think Kc would ever go the way of a bad sitcom and write Latch back in as somehow surviving the bullet wounds, the fall, and the flames. But then again, when he throws us a curve, I always tend to say, "Oh yeah... that makes sense."Quote:
Originally Posted by j0be
Wow fantastic episode. Great job KC :)
Liking the theories going around. Lizzie being prego seems fairly plausible, but I'm fairly skeptical of the Mallers going to LAX. I've only been a couple times, but I don't think it would be any easier to hold down than a mall (correct me if I'm wrong though). And what would be the point of flying away with Lizzy? It would be easier just to bump her off than go to all the trouble of taking her with them. What would they gain from that?
On a sidenote it's going to be one hell of a wait. April 25 :(
Ya, but it's worth it. I would rather wait that long for We're Alive, and maybe longer, than for them to stop making podcasts all together.Quote:
Originally Posted by ObamaCat
wait you mean the 18th right? they take One week off between episodes right? or am i having a total brain fart and its been two weeksQuote:
Originally Posted by ObamaCat
Mallers are going to die, people are going to die hardcore! Very well done, the background music was masterful. I am feeling pretty much what Saul is feeling, I wish I could just jump in the show and kill them all. Somehow though, I knew from Lizzie's reaction when they arrived at the Mallers' headquarters that they were no longer at the strip mall.
Though I cringed, it would have been surprising if a Maller hadn't attempted to rape Lizzie, I mean she is pretty and they are sick murderers and rapists. Or she is a woman and the only women they know would probably stab them for trying. I was somewhat expecting Scratch to Prison Lesbian rape Lizzie...of course that could still happen *cringe*...on the other hand that might just disturb me too much
Because of the live event the next episode isn't going to be until the 25th. It was mentioned at the very end of the podcast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ra1th
Must Google it now...every little bit of information...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kc
Right there with you. Very painful listening. Amazing performances and great story telling, but oh so painful.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdrianHD
There's an extra week off because of the live event.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ra1th
Edit... wow... super ninja'd because it wasn't showing any replies... disregard this.
That was a really really emotional episode. I was having a bad day to begin with and wow, It didn't make me feel any better. But Great episode, and as always, the music was great as well.
i like how there is a constant evolution in the storytelling, we have ben taken by the hand and guided through a george romaro lanscape filled with zombies and an newly apocoliptic landscape. soonafter, our leader pulls us into a cormac mcarthy style survival tail. the bonds grow stronger and we fall in love with each person we are introduced to. now we are no longer led, or pulled, but pushed into the pit of a quintin tarintino chaos. our hearts are twisted and wrenched, same as our guts, as we listen to the pain and tourture of our loved ones. our new family. all we can do is shout at the screen or clinch our mp3 player with white nukled fear. then we have to wait another two weeks to find out if we can breath again.
This was a great episode story driving wise and emotion, but DAMN KC! I felt so scared for Lizzy when that guy, *shiver* I agree with Saul I don't even want to think about it. Only thing that is strange now is where are the Mallers? I think that maybe they got killed by and attack or packed up and left, it just seems strange to me they'd all just leave. Also who's this "Johnny", If Latch was burned like Angel said, that means they burned him alive and he survived that whole time in the car, it's just freaky.
Johnny is not Latch. Kc has confirmed this. Latch was shot and killed by Pegs and his body fell onto the pile of furniture he was climbing up on. The pile of furniture was set on fire later on during the War with Latch still on top of it. I'm not quite sure what car you're talking about thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by NoReality95
AH. Gotcha. The body drop off. Now I get what you're talking about. For some reason your post didn't make sense to me, but now it's crystal clear. My apologies.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoReality95
Here's what I think will happen now... they have lizzy yes, but Durai is a reasonable man, and once the 50 cal rounds start pouring through their concrete walls, he will be more than happy to trade lizzy back to get the attack to stop. We know that the mallers have mostly small caliber weapons, well burt is bringing MG's to bear on them, I think they will decide to turn lizzy loose real fast.
That episode was great! And it was so awesome what Burt had for weapons. It gave me a chuckle. I enjoyed the gut wrenching performance by the cast.
Maybe they will let Lizzy go, but do you really believe that will stop Saul? Nothing is going to stop him, I can understand his wrath. If I found out that my own blondie was kidnapped and raped by convicts (Still the trauma even if Tardust didn't get to complete the act), I wouldn't stop because they let her go. I would ask her which one of them did it, cut my way through to him with a mass of bullets and tear that pig apart with my own two hands. We are going to see the dark side of Saul here, he won't be giving any mercy, he will attack viciously and kill Mallers in cold blood. Saul is not looking to take prisoners or let anyone get away. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a scene coming up where there is a wounded Maller and Saul ruthlessly shoots them in the head.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crocketman
Scratch I don't see dying by bullet though. Scratch likes knives, likes cutting. Saul likes his knife. I would lllloooovvvveeeeee for a knife fight, like drooling love for it. Even if Saul isn't the one to kill Scratch, she should get a death by a blade or at least close range
Durai is the leader of the worst types of criminals, serial killers and rapists, a wimp could not lead those kind of people, someone who gives in to the enemy's demands ( 5 people and a hummer at that) would and could never be in charge of people like that. If the mallers were still at the mall, and the tower had gone with the full frontal assault, they would have died immedietely. the mallers are armed, both with conventional fire arms, and others, like fire trucks, pipe bombs, and they have numbers, LOTS of numbers, the tower's got 5 people. Lets go back to the war for a second. there were 30 or 50 mallers who went on that raid, and they were utterly beaten by 5 or 6 people from the tower defending their positions. it is extremely easy to defend a position and it is ifninitely harder to attack one. Durai is reasonable yes, but he would never give in to someones demands, that shows weakness, and a weak man wont be in charge of the mallers for long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crocketman
My only issue with the Mallers going back to Eastern Bay is exactly what you said. It's their prison. They spent X number of years in there and the first thing they did...after surviving the horrific and hellatious first onslaught of zombies by being safely tucked away in a prison....they left it for an unprotected strip mall. They left the place that protected them from certain destruction in order to stake their claim on everything they could see. I really and truly can't imagine the Mallers returning to Eastern Bay under any circumstances.Quote:
Originally Posted by bvglee
Is it still a possibility? Sure, of course it is and the deserters might be a symptom of them returning to the prison and those people just didn't want to go I just feel like they found a different home.
As for Lizzy never seeing the Arena before: She's 26 years old and has lived in the area for at least 3 years (getting her doctorate which she was just completing so she had to be in the area in some capacity). We've known her for about 4 months. That's potentially 25.75 years she might have gone to the Arena to watch a hockey game, or any other event that might be held in the arena in the off season. All said and done though, I don't think the Arena is a possibility either. Just pointing out she could have seen it at some given point in time and be able to recognize it.
Let's imagine they did go to Eastern Bay and we get 'The War part 2' assuming the good guys win again they'd be left alone inside a secure prison with plenty of space and (presumably) food in storage, perhaps this is all building towards Eastern Bay becoming a more permanent replacement for the tower?
there are a few things i think i can point out. THe mallers did leave eastern bay to stake their own claim and they did go to an unprotected strip mall, except it was unprotected. after one point, is it really worth it living in the mall or is it just better to take the prison and stay alive? of course the downside to this argument is theres a lot of places that they could choose other than eastern bay so yeahQuote:
Originally Posted by nikvoodoo
as for the arena argument, please please please dont forget ZOMBIE STRONGHOLD. godkingzombie pimp lives there. his entire horde lives there, why why why why on earth would you go about clearing that place up? that's so difficult, and the zombies arent just gonna up and leave one day. i really dont think its the arena.
I had none with my first pregnancy. ( a girl) but my 2nd and 3rd.. I was sick the whole time.. I wonder if it had something to do with the fact they were both boys.Quote:
Originally Posted by j0be