Chapter 33-3 Red Winter

I feel that the colonel knows more about the new zombies they are encountering. Hell, he might even have knowledge on how this whole mess even started.

For all of you who say Denver could not go down in 2hrs, remember the world went down in 2 days and this is a nastier zombie who infects other much faster.

For fun I set up a spread sheet that tracks how fast Denver could go down. I assumed one Inkling could kill 2 people and infect 2 people in populated area in 5 minutes. Result: every one gone in under 1.5 hours. Happy to run other numbers for you, but here is the result of the 2 + 2 in 5min assumption.



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Well, it seems to me that they haven't been around long enough for them to begin to dominate the zombie culture. The Little Ones only started appearing towards the end of the second season. Before that, I don't think they even existed, assuming that they're experiments conducted by Ink. In this season, people who are still in LA have encountered them a lot, which means that, yes, they are becoming the dominant type of biter. So before, they weren't around, and now that they are, they are becoming the dominant type, and it's being displayed in the show accordingly. At least, in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by LiamKerrington

....As Robzombie says: The first Little One's were encountered by Skittles, Kalani and Angel at the military base in L.A; that was by the end of July in the WA-timeline. At that point in time the number of survivors in L.A. was less then half a thousand if we consider The Tower, The Mall, and The Colony as the only places with humans being alive and Skittles as well as CJ surviving solo on their own. When it all started on May 8th the city of L.A. was obliterated of life within less then a day - with Regulars/ standard biters/ zombies. The very first 'special' zombie we know of were the Runners encountered by Lizzy, Saul and Burt; then the Behemoth troubled Riley, Angel, Datu and Michael; later Ink showed up after having killed Paul, and then the next special one was the Jumper that knocked down Saul. It was after all these special ones that the Little Ones showed up the first time. And if we stick with the most solid theory so far that the first at least 12 Little Ones were infants and young children from the hospital, then it makes perfect sense that they were simply too late at the party to become a real threat so far, i.e. they were too late to spread their type of zomby-agent, because there was nearly no one available to be infected anymore...
All the best!
Liam

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Furthermore, I think that the first special ones appeared sometime before The Other Tower (Dunbar) fell to the zombie attack. Kalani tells Micheal, Angel and Saul about Ground Zero and how the inhabitants of the other Tower reported strange 'creatures' there. "Some of them could jump high, others could run really fast, Well, you get the picture."

I've always suspected that the night of the rain storm when the power goes out as being the night of the Attack on CJ's tower. That would put their convoy going missing prior to Burt, Lizzy and Saul discovering the remains of the ambushed convoy.

Really hoping Denver didn't go down....I dunno, I liked the idea of a 'safe zone', Ft. Irwin, etc. 30 chapters of "no hope" was about enough for me and I'm looking forward to a huge showdown that will make me clutch a domestic beer and scream "AMUURRRRRIIIICAAAA"

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Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor

Furthermore, I think that the first special ones appeared sometime before The Other Tower (Dunbar) fell to the zombie attack. Kalani tells Micheal, Angel and Saul about Ground Zero and how the inhabitants of the other Tower reported strange 'creatures' there. "Some of them could jump high, others could run really fast, Well, you get the picture."

I've always suspected that the night of the rain storm when the power goes out as being the night of the Attack on CJ's tower. That would put their convoy going missing prior to Burt, Lizzy and Saul discovering the remains of the ambushed convoy.

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Yeah, you are right: The strange ones at ground zero were recognized by CJ's people. But this still happened at least some days later then the zombie-apocalypse. Therefore I think it is safe to assume that the special ones, especially the Little Ones had no chance to get involved with the zeeh-pocalypse in the beginning. Although the Wiki-timeline is pretty uncertain about CJ's tower, it is just a thing of 'logic', I think, that CJs people started their scavenging and exploration some time later AFTER having established at least some basic means of fortification at the Tower ...

@2bgood: +1

All the best!
Liam

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Originally Posted by 2bgood

For all of you who say Denver could not go down in 2hrs, remember the world went down in 2 days and this is a nastier zombie who infects other much faster.

For fun I set up a spread sheet that tracks how fast Denver could go down. I assumed one Inkling could kill 2 people and infect 2 people in populated area in 5 minutes. Result: every one gone in under 1.5 hours. Happy to run other numbers for you, but here is the result of the 2 + 2 in 5min assumption.



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I'm not saying the city couldn't go down in 2 hrs, I was saying I doubt it went down in 2 hrs without getting at least ONE "HELP!" out....as someone else has said, even Kalani got out a radio to the Mallers while The Other Tower was overrun....and Kalani is a "fatass"

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Originally Posted by Deacon_Tyler

Really hoping Denver didn't go down....I dunno, I liked the idea of a 'safe zone', Ft. Irwin, etc. 30 chapters of "no hope" was about enough for me and I'm looking forward to a huge showdown that will make me clutch a domestic beer and scream "AMUURRRRRIIIICAAAA"

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Do you mean Boulder, or did I miss a chunk of thos thred? :P i agree with you though! 30 chapters if just, no hope, followed by Ohthankgodpeople. If Boulder or, well, the safe zones are taken now, it saps the intereazt of survival to some degree. What's left to fight for if all thats left are a few hubdred people behind a fence at the Colony? Can the folks really press on knowing that Humanity is just /done/?

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Originally Posted by LiamKerrington

Yeah, you are right: The strange ones at ground zero were recognized by CJ's people. But this still happened at least some days later then the zombie-apocalypse. Therefore I think it is safe to assume that the special ones, especially the Little Ones had no chance to get involved with the zeeh-pocalypse in the beginning. Although the Wiki-timeline is pretty uncertain about CJ's tower, it is just a thing of 'logic', I think, that CJs people started their scavenging and exploration some time later AFTER having established at least some basic means of fortification at the Tower ...

@2bgood: +1

All the best!
Liam

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Refer to 30-3 around the 7 minute mark. Glenn even says they must not have been the first to turn, or there would be more like them. Kc's got his story backed up for ya :zombie:

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Originally Posted by Penguine

I have an Inkling that Witch_Doctor really wants to call them ADLO's but just doesn't want to admit it. :zombie:

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Actually, I believe ADLO is the word for Inkling in the Inklish language. Surrounding Ground Zero is what we call Inglewood, or as the Inkler himself would call it, Inkland. :D