Chapter 40-3 Monsters

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Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor

Thanks! I was hoping that someone familiar with the area and earthquakes would chime in. It's soooo easy to jump on any idea or speculation with on a TV knowledge of a place.

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Thats true. I've never been to LA, and didn't even know that it had a subway system until I saw Predator 2.

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Originally Posted by Unit

I haven't listened to WND yet, busy couple days, and I haven't lived in California for about a decade so forgive me if things have changed a lot since then... But I don't believe the metro that runs beat Inglewood is underground. I think they are pretty much all above ground railways. I believe the only underground one is the one that runs to north Hollywood (should be the red line in the map you posted I think, I'm on my cell so it's hard to tell).

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Yup, the Red and Purple lines are the only (current) commuter rail systems that are underground or subways in LA. Red runs from Union Station to North Hollywood and the Purple runs from Union Station to Wiltshire (Western).
I brought it up HERE during the discussion for 40 2/3 in reference to Grognaurd's question of where did "they" go.

However, what about the fictional WA LA? There is already a planned real expansion of the Purple line to go out to Westwood (VA Hospital).
There are quite a few others too.

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Originally Posted by Tar Heel Fan

I'm with Liam on this one. Back at Dunbar, when it was overrun, CJ was making a social, Blazing Saddles-type, last stand. She didn't drag anyone else down her rabbit hole with her. I don't think she intended to survive it, but she wanted to take down whoever she could with her. Had Ink / Bill Roberts not intervened, odds are quite likely she would have been overrun.
Goes to show Ink's cruelty: he left her for living when she wanted to be left for dead. And she was pretty much a non-person, living with her guilt, until Saul and Victor ragged her back into living. At that point, she put her mask back on.

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Wow! It's amazing how this mirrors a recent storyline in "The Walking Dead".

SPOILER 

Just like the tale of the Governor! Defeat. Denied death when he was seeking it. Redemption through strangers. Then right back to his old ways.

Hi.

Wow. 57 pages of awesome. You. Are. GREAT!

Today's the day ... Just about a couple of hours, then #42 will start to unfold ... Anyone else at least half as excited as I am???

Best wishes!
Liam

Can't wait!

Woop. I am so pumped!

Very excited! The anticipation is getting to be a bit much actually. Do we have cover art of a chapter name to tide us over for the next few hours? I haven't been able to find any...

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Originally Posted by skankyfish

Very excited! The anticipation is getting to be a bit much actually. Do we have cover art of a chapter name to tide us over for the next few hours? I haven't been able to find any...

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All those things will be available at about the time the first episode of the next chapter will be released.

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Originally Posted by Gnex

I think Michael is just upset for numerous reason.... Here are just a few........

#1 - Victor is funnier than Michael
#2 - Victor is manlier than Michael
#3 - Victor is smarter than Michael
#4 - Victor is more heroic than Michael
#5 - Victor is more suave than Michael
#6 - Victor is more resourceful than Michael
#7 - Victor is more talented than Michael
#8 - Victor is more amazing than Michael
#9 - Victor is more cunning than Michael
#10 - Victor is more Victor than Michael

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HA! I'm trying to rep the hell out of this, but it won't let me! Too funny!!

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Originally Posted by Z Sniper

HA! I'm trying to rep the hell out of this, but it won't let me! Too funny!!

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#11 Victor is Victor

'Nuff said

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Originally Posted by tonyhind86

Seriously, Victor could sell me Boulder or Tower insurance, and I would sign on the dotted line. I still hope Otto Sturcke does a sales pitch for fun - it would be amazingly funny

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Attempt at selling insurance: "Insurance anyone,....insurance anyone?"............"Oh screw this! Gas mask anyone, gas mask?"

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Originally Posted by Gooer

Otto: "So, uh.....will you be taking this incredible offer for shoelace insurance?"

Me: "DAMNNNN STRAIGHT I WILL"

I feel it would be along the lines of that....if it ever would happen.....which it sadly wont......

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You know, I SHOULD get back to selling shoelace insurance, it's been obsolete for awhile since Velcro, but I have noticed the Army guys didn't get the memo. They still lace up their boots! Would be a shame if one of them tripped or had them tied together by happenstance.

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Originally Posted by Gnex

If only we knew someone who had some kinda insight into what Victor knows...................................

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HMMMM, who,...who could that be?

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Originally Posted by Z Sniper

Attempt at selling insurance: "Insurance anyone,....insurance anyone?"............"Oh screw this! Gas mask anyone, gas mask?"

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You had me at "gas mask" and "insurance". I am now confident that I can breathe in ANY situation. Where do I send my payment details? :)

Okay, this is my interpretation of the little ones attack at the windmill and how it played out.

Glen is immediately attacked and killed. Jay and Datu open fire possibly striking but not killing the little one. Next Jay is attacked but not killed. Datu gets a couple more shots off but is soon firing blanks. Datu is struck down by the little one, causing the scratches to the neck and face dropping his pistol as it skitters along the ground. The little one approaches Datu and picks him up but is attacked and killed by Jay and Datu is dropped back to the ground. Jay approaches Datu and we hear him scream as he’s bitten by Jay. Jay then runs off from Datu but not leaving the scene entirely. The beeping sound is from the windmill as some component on it is failing and giving off a beep, maybe the pump burning out. Next episode, Datu yells for Jay to kill him. But I think what made Jay not kill Datu, only biting to turn him, is what keeps him away despite Datu’s pleading. Datu then turns the Mata-gun on Jay, killing him.

I don't think the Mata-gun was used to kill the little one. It's pretty clear to me that I don't hear it fire, until Datu kills Jay. I think that Jay used a tool, which made a wound that looked similiar to that made by the Mata-gun.

(Jay may not have been fully turned thereby still having enough conscience remaining to attack the Little one and move away from Datu after only one bite. Maybe thats why Datu is turning as slowly as he is....or he was fully turned, he sounds like it, but still had some control, or there was some other function at play to just turn and not eat)

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Originally Posted by Robzombie

Okay, this is my interpretation of the little ones attack at the windmill and how it played out.

Glen is immediately attacked and killed. Jay and Datu open fire possibly striking but not killing the little one. Next Jay is attacked but not killed. Datu gets a couple more shots off but is soon firing blanks. Datu is struck down by the little one, causing the scratches to the neck and face dropping his pistol as it skitters along the ground. The little one approaches Datu and picks him up but is attacked and killed by Jay and Datu is dropped back to the ground. Jay approaches Datu and we hear him scream as he’s bitten by Jay. Jay then runs off from Datu but not leaving the scene entirely. The beeping sound is from the windmill as some component on it is failing and giving off a beep, maybe the pump burning out. Next episode, Datu yells for Jay to kill him. But I think what made Jay not kill Datu, only biting to turn him, is what keeps him away despite Datu’s pleading. Datu then turns the Mata-gun on Jay, killing him.

I don't think the Mata-gun was used to kill the little one. It's pretty clear to me that I don't hear it fire, until Datu kills Jay. I think that Jay used a tool, which made a wound that looked similiar to that made by the Mata-gun.

(Jay may not have been fully turned thereby still having enough conscience remaining to attack the Little one and move away from Datu after only one bite. Maybe thats why Datu is turning as slowly as he is....or he was fully turned, he sounds like it, but still had some control, or there was some other function at play to just turn and not eat)

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Can someone, anyone, listen to this part again while reading my explaination above and let me know what you think?

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Originally Posted by Robzombie

Can someone, anyone, listen to this part again while reading my explaination above and let me know what you think?

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on it brother

edit* my notes

main things I notice different

the mata gun is fired by jay.
how would jay approach datu and bite him on the back of the neck?
why only run off "so far" and wait?

the main thing that would change your version is include a regular biter travelling with 6(or9). whilst that is contrary to the behavior of 7 its also shows their(inklings) independent behaviors. so in that situation it would read...

6(or9) kills glenn
datu n jay fire
jay is killed
datu drops gun
sneaky biter gets datu, runs off
datu kills 6(or9)
leaves datu alive, while jay is turning. jay turns and only sees datu as bitten(least his NEW brain does)
que chapter 41

that's how I hear it at least

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Originally Posted by Robzombie

Okay, this is my interpretation of the little ones attack at the windmill and how it played out.

Glen is immediately attacked and killed. Jay and Datu open fire possibly striking but not killing the little one. Next Jay is attacked but not killed. Datu gets a couple more shots off but is soon firing blanks. Datu is struck down by the little one, causing the scratches to the neck and face dropping his pistol as it skitters along the ground. The little one approaches Datu and picks him up but is attacked and killed by Jay and Datu is dropped back to the ground. Jay approaches Datu and we hear him scream as he’s bitten by Jay. Jay then runs off from Datu but not leaving the scene entirely. The beeping sound is from the windmill as some component on it is failing and giving off a beep, maybe the pump burning out. Next episode, Datu yells for Jay to kill him. But I think what made Jay not kill Datu, only biting to turn him, is what keeps him away despite Datu’s pleading. Datu then turns the Mata-gun on Jay, killing him.

I don't think the Mata-gun was used to kill the little one. It's pretty clear to me that I don't hear it fire, until Datu kills Jay. I think that Jay used a tool, which made a wound that looked similiar to that made by the Mata-gun.

(Jay may not have been fully turned thereby still having enough conscience remaining to attack the Little one and move away from Datu after only one bite. Maybe thats why Datu is turning as slowly as he is....or he was fully turned, he sounds like it, but still had some control, or there was some other function at play to just turn and not eat)

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I think this is close, but I still think there had to be a regular biter there, Datu said he was bitten by a regular, (didn't say if it was Jay or not). Also I thought someone had compared the sounds of the shots in this scene and the Mata gun from the test fires and it they were identical, implying the Mata gun did go off. My guess is there was a little one plus 1 or 2 bitters that attacked, and Jay and Datu got overrun.
The little one saying "Get up" does create a lot of questions in regards to motive.

Okay, some very valid points to consider at the next listen. Thanks gents!

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Originally Posted by kent17

I think this is close, but I still think there had to be a regular biter there, Datu said he was bitten by a regular, (didn't say if it was Jay or not). Also I thought someone had compared the sounds of the shots in this scene and the Mata gun from the test fires and it they were identical, implying the Mata gun did go off. My guess is there was a little one plus 1 or 2 bitters that attacked, and Jay and Datu got overrun.
The little one saying "Get up" does create a lot of questions in regards to motive.

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That someone was probably me. The file is here.
Pretty obvious to me that he did fire it. :)

Storm's becoming one of my favorite c
posters in the chapter discussions.

#jussayin'

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Originally Posted by Storm

That someone was probably me. The file is here.
Pretty obvious to me that he did fire it. :)

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From my listening it's quite obvious that Han shot first...

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Originally Posted by 7oddisdead

Storm's becoming one of my favorite c
posters in the chapter discussions.

#jussayin'

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+1

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Originally Posted by scbubba

From my listening it's quite obvious that Han shot first...


+1

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Old school. I like the old version. Much stronger redemption story...

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Originally Posted by scbubba

From my listening it's quite obvious that Han shot first...


+1

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJlbPXZEpRE

So what is the deal with Michael not letting victor come with him??

If you have not finished the story then keep listening. It explains it later. He screwed up..

i did finish it and am re listening and i don't remember why can you just tell me??

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Originally Posted by dmitristolz

i did finish it and am re listening and i don't remember why can you just tell me??

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If you pay close attention, it's said in a part of Chapter 41..........

And where's the fun in being told? Just listen to it again, this series is great :D

ok so i listened to it all and didnt hear it can you just tell me?? please

ok so i got victor let one get to close but anyone know hen it happened?

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Originally Posted by dmitristolz

ok so i got victor let one get to close but anyone know hen it happened?

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Some time during the four month gap after saving the colony from the Mallers

9 years after my first listen and I am glad to see that CJ sending them out to fix a well when it is about to rain still does not make sense to me XD