Chapter 37-3: Balance of Power

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Originally Posted by Th3_T3ch

Scratch escaped from the colony before the SWAT van was taken. And on top of the the van was destroyed by the biters outside right before the attack happened.

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Im re-listening right now, but I know for sure no one knows how Scratch escaped. The whole place was under siege, all we know is Scratch escaped and we don't know how

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Originally Posted by Robzombie

I think CJ is the type that when she makes a decision it is not based on emotion but what she thinks is best. Yes it may be an emotional response to kick Saul out but how she handles it is with a lack of emotion is what I mean. She's made a decision, although maybe not entirely thought out and partially based on her anger, her follow through is with certainty. Once she's made her mind up, unless she can be properly reasoned with and persuaded to change her mind and if it results in directly affecting her she will change her mind but she does not respond to an emotional arguement. This is how she leads, and I think in part why I think she is an officer, reserve or reg's.

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It seems to me that most of the decisions that she has made as of late have been based entirely on emotion. Going to the colony, going into the hospital after Scratch instead of waiting for Saul-all out of anger over Sean's death. Kicking out Saul and Victor-anger over being manipulated as well as rejection. I don't see how the decision to kick out Saul and Victor could have been based on any kind of logic whatsoever. Right now she is completely emotionally compromised and could potentially make even more horrible decisions and unfortunately has been put in a position where she can.

So, Isn't it interesting that they are fracturing over this or that drama instead of realizing they are all on the same team--humanity.

also, how do you think the ring will play in the story?

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Originally Posted by Eviebae

So, Isn't it interesting that they are fracturing over this or that drama instead of realizing they are all on the same team--humanity.

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I think a lot of it has to do with the complete lack of communication between the various factions that have come together under the collective "roof" of the colony. They all seem to be going ahead with what they think needs to be done without consulting anyone else. Nobody that is making any of these decisions has the full picture of whats going on and I think its going to blow up in their faces and someones going to get killed.

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Originally Posted by fredrum

It seems to me that most of the decisions that she has made as of late have been based entirely on emotion. Going to the colony, going into the hospital after Scratch instead of waiting for Saul-all out of anger over Sean's death. Kicking out Saul and Victor-anger over being manipulated as well as rejection. I don't see how the decision to kick out Saul and Victor could have been based on any kind of logic whatsoever. Right now she is completely emotionally compromised and could potentially make even more horrible decisions and unfortunately has been put in a position where she can.

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Oh for sure and i thought thats what i was kinda saying, but specifically what i meant was that she can basically be cold and matter of fact when dealing with people we think most average people might be showing more emotional turmoil towards, where she can be hard when dealing directly with people. Kind of like when getting fired, its all business baby, regardless of the emotions inside. Yes youre totally right about her 'actions' but shes a cold bitch one on one. I only brought it up because i think it hints to her background or training in leadership.

I am going to go back and listen. If so, then I missed the plot hole back then. Because there is no way Victor would have known the mallers got Sean because he was dead before Victor left. If Saul had said, "The two we brought in said the prisoners killed him," then okay. If CJ, ever the thoughtful one, had given the timeline even a cursory look-see, she would have seen it.

For that matter, why wouldn't Saul have just said, "the two people running it when Victor left killed him to get control." Sorry, don't buy it.

Again, best wishes to the newlyweds. ;-) I am into my 23rd year of marriage. When you find someone who puts up with your crap and still sticks around, you marry her!

You know, I bet she was some kind of management type or Wedding Planner. If it was something that would earn respect for her being a leader, she'd tell people. Second thought, college professor.

can anybody explain why CJ's kicked Saul and Victor out? I think I'm missing something here

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Originally Posted by kdalton

...Because there is no way Victor would have known the mallers got Sean because he was dead before Victor left. If Saul had said, "The two we brought in said the prisoners killed him," then okay. If CJ, ever the thoughtful one, had given the timeline even a cursory look-see, she would have seen it.

For that matter, why wouldn't Saul have just said, "the two people running it when Victor left killed him to get control." Sorry, don't buy it.

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Victor does not say much; very much in character. Saul flys off the handle and makes all the leaps of logic; very much in character. CJ's logic seems to "breakdown" around Sean, we see this even more clearly now

It's not a bug, it's a feature! Just stay tuned for a two week break. /slump_shoulders

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Originally Posted by nio

can anybody explain why CJ's kicked Saul and Victor out? I think I'm missing something here

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:: Putting on the tin hat ::

CJ has a fear of the family She has always been super cautious and observing but never engaging the mallers directly. Now she is fully committed without contigencies in place. Very vulnerable. She is as pissed at herself as she is at Saul and Vic and she is lashing out.