Chapter 30-Short Term Memory part 1

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Originally Posted by daredevil

Maybe it was checking the direction the Mallers went after they scuttled off? Michael could still be ticked off.... scratch that, Is still ticked off.

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ha! scratch. pun. that was good!

So after listening a few things that come to my mind are: after 5 months, you haven't been able to find the mallers? Saul, you are getting way too comfortable with CJ. Did anyone notice the kindness in her voice to him on the police radio? Quite a change from before. Interesting that CJ makes the plans and the guys carry them out. (Don't remember how Saul worded that). And, CJ wants to use the police radio probably because of the security on it.. does that mean the mallers are still around and you are concerned?? But you've been looking for them for 5 months now! Don't quite get that.

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Originally Posted by forgottenone

So after listening a few things that come to my mind are: after 5 months, you haven't been able to find the mallers? Saul, you are getting way too comfortable with CJ. Did anyone notice the kindness in her voice to him on the police radio? Quite a change from before. Interesting that CJ makes the plans and the guys carry them out. (Don't remember how Saul worded that). And, CJ wants to use the police radio probably because of the security on it.. does that mean the mallers are still around and you are concerned?? But you've been looking for them for 5 months now! Don't quite get that.

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The quote was similar to: CJ makes the plans, we execute them.

That sounds awfully familiar to the drum beat I was pounding on WND: Great planning by CJ but she's a shitty executor. Now she has people to put her good plans into action.

As for not finding the Mallers: Cj's plans don't let them stay out too long or go that far (at least that's the general feeling I got from from Saul) so it makes perfect sense they can't find the Mallers who are hiding down at the Colony.

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Originally Posted by nikvoodoo

The quote was similar to: CJ makes the plans, we execute them.

That sounds awfully familiar to the drum beat I was pounding on WND: Great planning by CJ but she's a shitty executor. Now she has people to put her good plans into action.

As for not finding the Mallers: Cj's plans don't let them stay out too long or go that far (at least that's the general feeling I got from from Saul) so it makes perfect sense they can't find the Mallers who are hiding down at the Colony.

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Can you really see headstrong Saul, who has been determined to find his girlfriend, let CJ order him around? He missed the chopper because of her!! Oh, wait, I forgot, hee hee. the women keep the men in line :)... ha ha ha.. spoken like a woman huh :) (jk)

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Originally Posted by Cabbage Patch

Is anybody else wondering what was so important about the map that the recon team made? It doesn't seem like there was any need to put boots on the ground just to scope out a route. They're bound to have highly detailed maps of the roads in LA, and other than the cracks in Inglewood the only major changes to the landscape are the roads blocked by traffic. The current status of the roads could be checked more easily from the air, or even by satellite.

There must have been some high value locations that they were tasked to scout. Visiting warehouses or stores that might contain strategically important supplies? Or maybe their mission was to leave something behind. Did they set up webcams to monitor key parts of the city?

They probably were not sent to retrieve the storyboards for LOST seasons 4-6, since the LOST production offices were in Burbank.

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I'm sticking to the idea that they were gathering intel about Humans and not the zombies or any installation. If they were going to an instalation they would fly directly there they wouldn't drop the LP/OP team off at a distance and have them hoof it to Long Beach. The same would be true for reconing the Zombies. The best thing for that would be to drop them off on a secure roof somewhere and then fortify their position. If I were setting up an LP/OP in an urban enviorment (I've done it once or twice while in the Army LOL) I would want to get dropped off from a distance move into my hide site under the cover of darkness and then set in. The drill that these guys used was pretty much from the FM 7-8 (the Infantrymans Bible) and the 7-8 really doesn't play to well against the undead and if Michael is still running the intel side at Irwin he knows that.

Long time lurker, first time poster.
My suggestion for the mission is that the team are checking out a route from Fort Irwin to the Port of Long Beach. (173 miles)
So many shipping containers there, some are bound to have canned food. Offshore Oil refineries are nearby too.
Also Long Beach airport has a Heliport with Helicopter fuel and parts.
Highway 710 is reasonably clear of cars since they drove the Hummer along there in episode 1. Also along the way they could pop into the reserve base in Bell and collect whats left over (unless the Mallers have been there already).
So hopefully they have been spending the last 5 months looking for supplies (food, fuel, weapons and ammo). Clearing a path on the way to Long Beach. Sending out recon teams, watching out for any squeeze spots.

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Originally Posted by Zealous2

Long time lurker, first time poster.
My suggestion for the mission is that the team are checking out a route from Fort Irwin to the Port of Long Beach. (173 miles)
So many shipping containers there, some are bound to have canned food. Offshore Oil refineries are nearby too.
Also Long Beach airport has a Heliport with Helicopter fuel and parts.
Highway 710 is reasonably clear of cars since they drove the Hummer along there in episode 1. Also along the way they could pop into the reserve base in Bell and collect whats left over (unless the Mallers have been there already).
So hopefully they have been spending the last 5 months looking for supplies (food, fuel, weapons and ammo). Clearing a path on the way to Long Beach. Sending out recon teams, watching out for any squeeze spots.

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173 miles just for food? Anything else would be pointless, because we know the Armoury was pretty much picked clean. Why LA? Why Long Beach? Surely different areas would have better chances for food and survivors and would atleast have a chance of being less infected than we know LA is.

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Originally Posted by nikvoodoo

The quote was similar to: CJ makes the plans, we execute them.

That sounds awfully familiar to the drum beat I was pounding on WND: Great planning by CJ but she's a shitty executor. Now she has people to put her good plans into action.

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I immediately thought of your quote while listening to the episode. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a nod to WND :) This episode has been the most "meta" so far: this quote, the reference to LOST...

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Originally Posted by daredevil

173 miles just for food? Anything else would be pointless, because we know the Armoury was pretty much picked clean. Why LA? Why Long Beach? Surely different areas would have better chances for food and survivors and would atleast have a chance of being less infected than we know LA is.

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Remember that it's been 3 months since we last checked in on the characters, nearly 7 since the outbreak. Shortages of critical items like food, fuel, batteries, ammo, etc. must be getting severe, By now all of the communities and military installations near Fort Irwin should have been investigated and picked clean. LA is the nearest major urban center, and has far greater potential to provide critical supplies than any of the alternatives.

ok first time poster. so lets see as far as my take it seems to line up with some other ones i read.

1. CJ seemed a who lot sweeter on the phone to saul then the ragin asian from before
2. I think even though saul is extremely headstrong one of two things happend. the situation called for him to calm down and submit, or two he's grown fond of her to the point he doesnt mind taking orders from her.

3. the team I believe came from where the base and are sent there doing scouting. kind of like when they went to the reservation the other time and they said they never saw anything before like they described. They might have been checking to see if their story lines up. I am sure they did this without telling Michael about it.

im going to listen again, but at least this was a little more engaging.