Chapter 30- Short Term Memory Part 3

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Originally Posted by nikvoodoo

Well that's my point. If the encryption changes (or even if it stays the same) you can't be listening in to Dunbar conversations at the Colony.

But that was the reason Witch_Doctor said they were sending people out in the first place to find Saul and Victor.



That's what I'm getting confused by. The colony would have to crack the encryption in order to be able to listen in, if they'd done that, they could call up and have the hook baited to get Saul and another live one to tell Scratch where the Tower survivors went.

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I should have clarified, I'm supporting your arguments ;)

For my own sake, I am going to completely drop the notion that Glenn and Pete are moles or spies. Pete would have to be one hell of a well trained spy to use reverse psychology so well. Recall that he didn't want anything to do with Saul and Victor. If he were a spy, he would have done his best to be likeable and trust worthy to be privy to any and all information available.
Then there is Glenn. He had no reason to be pissed at Victor, right out. At first he was probably one of the only people living at the colony that knew in his aged heart of hearts that Victor would never try to betray the colony. So when Gatekeeper told the colony folk that Victor and the new arrivals had tried to sabotage the colony, Glen was probably one of the only one's to say, "Now just hold on a second there, fella. I don't think Victor would do such a thing. That nice young man saved my life once."
It wasn't until Glen met up with Victor and Saul did he learn that Victor had intentionally taken all the guns and ammo with him, thereby leaving the colony folk in a lurch.

BUT...there is possibility that Glen and Pete are carrying a tracking device of some sort and don't know it. The Mallers may have been brilliant enough to let Roman, Glen, and Pete think they were escaping when in reality the Mallers just said, let them go, we'll track them later. Although I think it's an unlikely scenario, I do believe it is more probable than Glen and/or Pete being outright spies for the Mallers.

My favorite theory: Glen, Roman, and Pete miraculously escaped from the colony. Roman got turned. Saul and Victor stumble upon Glen and Pete. It's as simple as has been explained to us. :D

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Originally Posted by wh33t

I should have clarified, I'm supporting your arguments ;)

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I told you I was tired.......*zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz*

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Originally Posted by Adventureless_Hero

My favorite theory: Glen, Roman, and Pete miraculously escaped from the colony. Roman got turned. Saul and Victor stumble upon Glen and Pete. It's as simple as has been explained to us. :D

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Well that's no fun! I'm with you though. I just thought Glenn and Pete escaping on their own merits seemed a bit unlikely, but perhaps now that the Mallers have inherited plenty of slaves and a pre-built compound perhaps they are more slack watching over their slaves.

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Originally Posted by wh33t

Well that's no fun! I'm with you though. I just thought Glenn and Pete escaping on their own merits seemed a bit unlikely, but perhaps now that the Mallers have inherited plenty of slaves and a pre-built compound perhaps they are more slack watching over their slaves.

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I was thinking that this could also be a subtle hint from the author that the Colony isn't so locked down as it used to be. Perhaps since the Maller take-over, not only have living conditions taken a nose dive, but security is falling apart too. Maybe Ft. Irwin won't need to attack the colony. There is always the chance that the biters could over run that place.

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Originally Posted by Adventureless_Hero

I was thinking that this could also be a subtle hint from the author that the Colony isn't so locked down as it used to be. Perhaps since the Maller take-over, not only have living conditions taken a nose dive, but security is falling apart too. Maybe Ft. Irwin won't need to attack the colony. There is always the chance that the biters could over run that place.

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Nice, totally valid imo.

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Originally Posted by Adventureless_Hero

My favorite theory: Glen, Roman, and Pete miraculously escaped from the colony. Roman got turned. Saul and Victor stumble upon Glen and Pete. It's as simple as has been explained to us. :D

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I agree with you on this. I think Glen, Roman and Pete ran away and got lucky in meeting Saul and Victor, with no ulterior motives.

But, just for the sake of argument, there is the possiblity that one or more of the escapees could be a spy, with the Mallers holding hostages to guarantee that they report back. Scratch has done this before. Maybe Glen has a girlfriend. Or Scratch could be holding Pete's beloved water bottles.

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Originally Posted by Cabbage Patch

I agree with you on this. I think Glen, Roman and Pete ran away and got lucky in meeting Saul and Victor, with no ulterior motives.

But, just for the sake of argument, there is the possiblity that one or more of the escapees could be a spy, with the Mallers holding hostages to guarantee that they report back. Scratch has done this before. Maybe Glen has a girlfriend. Or Scratch could be holding Pete's beloved water bottles.

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Now that you mention it... Doesn't anyone think it's a little strange that Pete maintained his store? Pete mentions that Lizzy came into his "store"... What the hell would he be doing running a store when the Mallers have shown up and turned everyone into slaves?

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Originally Posted by wh33t

Now that you mention it... Doesn't anyone think it's a little strange that Pete maintained his store? Pete mentions that Lizzy came into his "store"... What the hell would he be doing running a store when the Mallers have shown up and turned everyone into slaves?

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They probably didn't want to disrupt the flow too much. They just wanted to take over and enjoy the "cushy" lifestyle. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
They likely left Glen working at the communications station, but put Tardust as his boss. I can see anyone who didn't shut up and do as they were told became a slave or dead. The slaves that were already slaves, just had a new safe haven to work as slaves. I bet there were even folks, like some of the guardians, who were happy the mallers arrived. Some guys, like Thumpkin, seemed off kilter and probably wanted to act a bit crazier than management at the Colony allowed.

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Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor

Glenn assuages any concern about that by saying that they are encrypted.

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Assuages? Nice vocab. No sarcasm!! Seriously!! (My mom was an english teacher)

Also - Luke, Han and Leia? Nice.