Chapter 32 part 2: Captive Hearts

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Originally Posted by Adventureless_Hero

The way Tardust put it made it sound like they are all required to gather in the parking lot near the hospital so there will be a roll call for that reason. I don't think the roll call is the purpose of the meeting but rather a causality of the meeting.

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Mh ... Strikes me:
Someone/ the doctor found Angel splattered around and tells Durai.
Durai freaks out what was going on and asks for the roll-call.
Bixby and Lizzy had no opportunity yet to tell Durai about the tape.
Is Lizzy supposed to show up at the roll-call?
If not, this could happen: Durai freaks out, Scratch blames someone (Tardust) for having done it, like she and Latch did the first time, when the tanker-rig was "stolen". Briggs is a weakling and does not provide the video and and thus does not tell Durai about the lie of Scratch's. ...
What IF Lizzy is supposed to show up at the roll call, THEN something completely different will happen ... And then we would have the triangle of death meeting: Durai <-> Scratch <-> Briggs.

All the best!
Liam

Aww..sonofava...

Alright here we go...so I think witch doctor just said a majority of the pieces..but let's put em together.

We knew the colonies numbers to be in the hundreds before, right?...well what has changed since then?...mallers, yes...but also mkp and Vic running off with half the weapons stash. We also know(if I'm remembering correctly) that the colonists basically rolled over when the mallers showed up...this points to a nearly depleted weapons supply...also note the viament anger when pete/glenn confronted vic/saul....id wager that the depleted numbers came from loss of people during the time between mpk and the mallers arrival.

Now, how to bring all this together...people talk, that's a given...people also throw others under the bus when given the opportunity to, especially when those people are not around...so how bout this.

Durai/scratch/tar heard the rumors of what happened between the mpk time and current time...durai made note of a way he could use this to his advantage, but scratch insisted on her own form of interrogation...hence durais frustration with her lack of results...i could easily see the "roll call" being Burt thrown out in front of the colonists and they are told "this man knows where the people who put you in this situation are"...people can be evil...but a group of angry people?...well...

That's what I got, aaaaand now my head is spinning

Hi There.

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Originally Posted by 7oddisdead

... Now, how to bring all this together...people talk, that's a given...people also throw others under the bus when given the opportunity to, especially when those people are not around...so how bout this.

Durai/scratch/tar heard the rumors of what happened between the mpk time and current time...durai made note of a way he could use this to his advantage, but scratch insisted on her own form of interrogation...hence durais frustration with her lack of results...i could easily see the "roll call" being Burt thrown out in front of the colonists and they are told "this man knows where the people who put you in this situation are"...people can be evil...but a group of angry people?...well...

That's what I got, aaaaand now my head is spinning

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THIS would be such a dark scene ... Poor Burt ...
And yeah, lots of heads spinning since Monday ...

Also: I hope that I never will be the target of your sinister plans ... :cool: :zombieglomp:

All the best!
Liam

OOokayy...

Here's my thoughts about what's going on...

1. Roll Call.

As many have said, Durai likes to play it simple. I don't think he's going to amass everyone in the Colony for a "hey, you killed so-and-so and that's not cool...so um...*shoots Scratch* "See that, people? Don't kill people. That is all." I also can't see him calling roll call to confront Scratch about killing Angel...he seems to be more of the type that would conduct that business in front of the only people who matter (the inner circle, or any other members of the "Family" that are still hanging around). I believe he would consider it a "private matter."

While I don't think it's a coincidence that they recieved the summons to roll-call, I honestly am not sure what to think about what's going to go down. It could be that Bixby is playing both sides, and they're going to "out" Victor...who unfortunately also knows where the Tower people were going. So then, Victor is going to tell them, after torture, before death. They aren't going to need Burt anymore. So either they just kill him, or put him to work as a slave (probably just kill him). There goes the last rays of hope for the rest of the Colony if that's the case.

2. Lizzie/Bricks/Saul/CJ

Lizzie and Bricks? in love? Nope. At least not on her part. She's borrowing his shirts because they're the only clothing that fit her now because she's pregnant. She's a therapist...who has obviously listened to and counseled Bricks before (She asks him "Did you hurt someone? Do you feel bad about it/want to talk about it?). I think their thing is more of a friendship borne from their guard/prisoner roles...kind of like Stockholm Syndrome, except friendship instead of love (although Bricks could be possibly in love with her).

Bricks is an interesting character. From right off, I knew he was different from the other prisoners. He seemed like a "gentle giant," because he seemed to be concerned about Lizzie's welfare from the moment they picked her up. To me, Bricks was the guy who, because of his size and maybe a mental defect of some sort that made him "slow", was the bodyguard/bouncer/enforcer simply because all he did was follow orders. Follow them because he feared punishment himself, or perhaps because that was just simply how he grew up, in an environment where violence was always present. If it's all you know...*shrugs*It's because he seems to express regret and despite going along with Scratch's tortures of others, doesn't seem to mind stepping in on Burt's behalf that makes me think this way.

Saul and CJ...while all of us and probably Saul too, saw this coming...I'm sure it was still a surprise to Saul when she pounced on him like a lioness on a gazelle. Honestly, I was expecting something like this as soon as she had that little hissy-fit after they brought Pete and Glenn back to Dunbar. Constance Parng, I must say, has a revealing voice. During the aforementioned hissy-fit, I could hear everything from desperation to longing to anger to sorrow and regret. And when she pounced Saul, she sounded ashamed and guilty but also pleading in a way.

Props to Saul for sticking by his feelings and not caving in to CJ, especially in a high-stress situation, just after they were attacked...which could have been a contributing factor to CJ's kiss. All hopped up on adrenaline and stress...it could have been an "accident," wherein your emotions and body start doing things while your brain is screaming "STOP YOU MORON...NOOOO!"

3. Angel/The Family/Durai/Scratch

Even if Bricks shows Durai the videotape, who's to say that Durai is going to act on it? Angel, despite having a birthright ring and being a member of the "Family"...he wasn't involved in the Family's business...he joined the military and tried walking the straight and narrow (as far as we know). That could be construed as betrayal to the Family, yes? Durai may just shrug his shoulders and be like "So what?" He might get pissed that Scratch didn't ask the questions HE wanted answered and reprimand her for that...but can we honestly say that he's going to watch this tape and immediately be like "Oh, Scratch honey? Come'ere and lemme put this bullet in you..."? Angel didn't do anything for Durai, except stand as one of many roadblocks in his path to obtaining the Tower.

Lizzie was just acting on Scratch's words, trying to think of a way to get rid of Scratch once she learned that Burt was alive and imprisoned and Angel was dead. She saw an opportunity and decided to take it, but it may not go like she and Bricks want it to, and if it doesn't....then Bricks and Lizzie are next on Scratch's hitlist, preggers or not.

However...I think they should try to get Tardust on their side...honestly, he doesn't seem to be overly fond of her...nay, downright frightened of her sometimes...he would probably relish the idea of getting rid of her...because Scratch rules with fear and pain.

I think they need to present this tape in a very deliberate way...because a person's mood could mean the difference between peace and war. Durai could look at the tape and be like "so what?" or "Scratch is dead the next time I see her" depending upon how the information is presented to him.


My thought train is about to derail, that and I have to get back to work, so I will leave you all with this food for thought for now...

Well cj definitely likes saul, so I'm guessing the whole batheing scene was to tempt Saul away, which almost worked.
Next episode will probably open up with Lizzy and bricks trying to go see durai but being denied an "appointment" because he is a stuck up d-bag...
Scratch will be fine, she always is
And I seriously doubt Glenn is a double-agent

On a side-note, I thought it was funny Saul and cj went out of their way to mention the Shelby in the garage, perhaps their is an awesome fix-her-up then escape in a sexy sports car on the horizon?

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Originally Posted by Lukas A.

...I thought it was funny Saul and cj went out of their way to mention the Shelby in the garage, perhaps their is an awesome fix-her-up then escape in a sexy sports car on the horizon?

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Or we know what KC will be driving once he starts getting the Hollywood mega-bucks!

Makes me sad how many people want Scratch dead.

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Originally Posted by Osiris

Makes me sad how many people want Scratch dead.

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I want her alive and well. All hail to my favorite psycho :yay:

So I'm wondering if this whole role call thing is all about Scratch raffling off Burt's finger! 5 to 1 Thumpkin get's it!

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Originally Posted by Tales from Valhalla

I want her alive and well. All hail to my favorite psycho :yay:

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